Top 10 Strongest of Each Class

got a new staff so update with ss this time

Level: 150
IGN: zeplinfan911
Class: Bishop
Guild: AlandCrew
Server: Bellocan
Total Magic: 954
Pendant/Egg: no

Level: 76
IGN: FIameChocobo
Class: Crusader
Guild: MTDynasty
Server: Bera
Weapon Type (Warriors/Shadowers): 2H Sword/2H Axe
Str (Base + Bonus): 360 (315 + 45)/362 (315 + 47)
Dex (Base + Bonus): 98 (80 + 18)
Luk (Base + Bonus): 21 (5 + 16)
Wep Atk: 103/109 (123/129 with ciders)
Pendant/Egg: No

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Normal Stats



Stats with Ciders

UPDATE:
Updated: ZeplinFan911
Updated: KinkerBell
Updated: BIurrie
Added: FIameChocobo

(or about to!) =)

Haha, updating 3 lists now, SP, SW and Bellocan.com

+10 wep atk from the boost is DEFAULT.

Added 1 atk to TugboatWilly. =)

Added Frebbas.

Q: Would anyone be interested in an unscaled list?

Please remove Kasuhitomi from the list at this time, I'm retired (on Night Lord, and probably my DK as well). I recently:

a) Broke Zhelm (lalalla, bored and I was drunk)
b) Broke Craven (using a 20% Clean Slate scroll, 59/8 Craven)

Going to goof off on NL whenever I un-retire, and try scrolling a 65+ att Crave -shrugs-. I wish the best of luck to the rest of the Night Lords! :]

-Lord of the Night Sky

+10 wep atk from the boost is DEFAULT.

Added 1 atk to TugboatWilly. =)

Added Frebbas.

Q: Would anyone be interested in an unscaled list?

i prefer a scaled to 150 list because it levels the playing field.

don't know if i need to post a screenshot or what but i made a slight upgrade. +3 str, +2 dex. i'll post a screenshot if needed.

+10 wep atk from the boost is DEFAULT.

Added 1 atk to TugboatWilly. =)

Added Frebbas.

Q: Would anyone be interested in an unscaled list?

Yup

i'd be interested in an unscaled list.

when you say "levels the playing playing field," you mean it makes weak people stronger than they really are and makes strong people weaker. scaled ranges are created for people who can't compete. a lvl 18x with decent gear will still outdamage a 12x with godly gear. sure the 12x worked hard for gear, but so does the 18x working hard for their lvls.

i'd be interested in an unscaled list.

when you say "levels the playing playing field," you mean it makes weak people stronger than they really are and makes strong people weaker. scaled ranges are created for people who can't compete. a lvl 18x with decent gear will still outdamage a 12x with godly gear. sure the 12x worked hard for gear, but so does the 18x working hard for their lvls.

i'm not weak by any means. :f6: i just like it because i'm too lazy to level these days.

The list was originally made to see who has the better equips and that's all, level shouldn't take any part no matter how hard you trained, if you wanna see a list based on how hard someone trained, they can do that in Nexon's site.

But i'd like to suggest a change in the "base lvl" used in the list. I know lvl 150 was chosen because it was a more realistic lvl to achieve, but i really think the lvl used for the list should be 200 since that's the higher you can get.

Using this lvl will also lower the advantages a character can get just by being a "-less" stat character, leaving the equips to be the more determinant factor to make it high in the list. Which is exactly why the list was created in the first place, to see who has the better equips no matter what lvl the character is.

Just my 2 cents, other than that, great job you are doing here Chris <333

Using this lvl will also lower the advantages a character can get just by being a "-less" stat character, leaving the equips to be the more determinant factor to make it high in the list. Which is exactly why the list was created in the first place, to see who has the better equips no matter what lvl the character is.

Really it just changes which equips are significant.

At level 123, it takes me about 4.8 str to equal 1 w.atk so I buy accordingly (3 atk 10 str cape > 5 atk 0 str cape and such)
At level 200, it would bump that to about 7.6 str to equal 1 w.atk, so the 5 atk cape would be better. Doesn't mean I'd buy it, just to be on top of the list...

I think the calculation should be based around the average level of the players on the list, so that their gear is close to the optimal they can buy, not the max level they could reach. I know I'm not going to reach level 200 and I suspect a lot of other people don't plan to either.

The list was originally made to see who has the better equips and that's all, level shouldn't take any part no matter how hard you trained, if you wanna see a list based on how hard someone trained, they can do that in Nexon's site.

But i'd like to suggest a change in the "base lvl" used in the list. I know lvl 150 was chosen because it was a more realistic lvl to achieve, but i really think the lvl used for the list should be 200 since that's the higher you can get.

Using this lvl will also lower the advantages a character can get just by being a "-less" stat character, leaving the equips to be the more determinant factor to make it high in the list. Which is exactly why the list was created in the first place, to see who has the better equips no matter what lvl the character is.

Just my 2 cents, other than that, great job you are doing here Chris <333

Rankings only reflect lvl not gear or damage.

An unscaled list will take into consideration BOTH gear AND lvl. Like i said, you can be 13x with godly gear but you still don't compete damage-wise against a 18x with decent gear.

Don't you wonder why not many high lvls care to post their ranges? We put time and effort into our gear and lvls. By disregarding or lvls it just means there's no value placed on our hard work. Nexon rankings would be the opposite (reflects only lvls not damage/gear).

If you can't compete on nexon ranks, then this list is for you. But i think it would be more fair to try to compete on both playing fields at the same time. Work and effort is required for gear and lvls so why not take both into consideration?

Sure, why not.

Level: 120
IGN: Smooothie
Class: Hero
Guild: Oasis
Server: Scania
Weapon Type (Warriors/Shadowers): 2-Hand Sword
Str (Base + Bonus): 552 + 41
Dex (Base + Bonus): 70 + 48
Wep Atk: 126
Pendant/Egg: No D:

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Posting An Update Since I'm Bored
384 score I think Would be 400 If I didn't clean slated my previous helmet

Okayokay, I'm behind on this thread on all 3 forums, time2update.

Please remove Kasuhitomi from the list at this time, I'm retired (on Night Lord, and probably my DK as well). I recently:

a) Broke Zhelm (lalalla, bored and I was drunk)
b) Broke Craven (using a 20% Clean Slate scroll, 59/8 Craven)

Going to goof off on NL whenever I un-retire, and try scrolling a 65+ att Crave -shrugs-. I wish the best of luck to the rest of the Night Lords! :]

-Lord of the Night Sky

Removed. Good luck rebuilding when your up for it again. I do the same thing, and I know a few others that do the same things when they drink. =P

i prefer a scaled to 150 list because it levels the playing field.

don't know if i need to post a screenshot or what but i made a slight upgrade. +3 str, +2 dex. i'll post a screenshot if needed.

This would be in addition so everyone knows, not replacing it. When updating could you please just give your new wep atk/str/dex, makes it a lot easier for me. =)

Yup

Thanks for the feedback.

i'd be interested in an unscaled list.

when you say "levels the playing playing field," you mean it makes weak people stronger than they really are and makes strong people weaker. scaled ranges are created for people who can't compete. a lvl 18x with decent gear will still outdamage a 12x with godly gear. sure the 12x worked hard for gear, but so does the 18x working hard for their lvls.

I guess that also is why we have the nexon rankings, and top 10 lists for class levels. =) Mostly agreed though.

i'm not weak by any means. :f6: i just like it because i'm too lazy to level these days.

Well, you'd be on the other list still in addition to the new one if I were to make it.

The list was originally made to see who has the better equips and that's all, level shouldn't take any part no matter how hard you trained, if you wanna see a list based on how hard someone trained, they can do that in Nexon's site.

But i'd like to suggest a change in the "base lvl" used in the list. I know lvl 150 was chosen because it was a more realistic lvl to achieve, but i really think the lvl used for the list should be 200 since that's the higher you can get.

Using this lvl will also lower the advantages a character can get just by being a "-less" stat character, leaving the equips to be the more determinant factor to make it high in the list. Which is exactly why the list was created in the first place, to see who has the better equips no matter what lvl the character is.

Just my 2 cents, other than that, great job you are doing here Chris <333

Of course it's not purely based on level... In fact I got he concept from here you'll notice it's just something at the bottom that's extra. Changing base level now would take some work (god damn I'm a lazy fucker already, doing this takes me a good week to do!) so I doubt I'd do that, but thanks for the feedback. I feel 150 works anyways, because it's around the average level for those participating in these. Maybe I will later, but I'll leave that up to discussion. Thanks Tommy.

Really it just changes which equips are significant.

At level 123, it takes me about 4.8 str to equal 1 w.atk so I buy accordingly (3 atk 10 str cape > 5 atk 0 str cape and such)
At level 200, it would bump that to about 7.6 str to equal 1 w.atk, so the 5 atk cape would be better. Doesn't mean I'd buy it, just to be on top of the list...

I think the calculation should be based around the average level of the players on the list, so that their gear is close to the optimal they can buy, not the max level they could reach. I know I'm not going to reach level 200 and I suspect a lot of other people don't plan to either.

Guess that makes sense on an unscaled list then.

Rankings only reflect lvl not gear or damage.

An unscaled list will take into consideration BOTH gear AND lvl. Like i said, you can be 13x with godly gear but you still don't compete damage-wise against a 18x with decent gear.

Don't you wonder why not many high lvls care to post their ranges? We put time and effort into our gear and lvls. By disregarding or lvls it just means there's no value placed on our hard work. Nexon rankings would be the opposite (reflects only lvls not damage/gear).

If you can't compete on nexon ranks, then this list is for you. But i think it would be more fair to try to compete on both playing fields at the same time. Work and effort is required for gear and lvls so why not take both into consideration?

Agreed. This way you can use the nexon rankings for level... These ranking for equips, and both at the same time also here. =)

Anywayssssss.......



UPDATE:
Updated: GenesisPro
Removed: Katsuhitomi
Removed: KikoLovex3
Added: Smooothie

More to come, have other forums where people posted. =(

Oi, Chris.
I shall post when my glove isn't crap@@

Oi, Chris.
I shall post when my glove isn't crap@@

Hey!

Lern2scania, never see you on. =(

needs moar drk's

needs moar drk's

You mean there are others that didn't quit them already? =(

Stupid Doodo.