Storm the Ninja Castle for the last time!

Is your argument weak enough that you have to state that.

No. But you did the same thing yourself with my post when I wasn't even talking to you.

Uh..you do know there app's dedicated to maplestory right? Which try to let you do things more efficiently, so that less time is dedicated...isn't that "blatantly" obvious?

I do know. But I don't care at the same time. Y'see, the point I'm trying to convey is you shouldn't need outside applications to play a video game aimed toward the demographic. If you want to put that much effort to kill a mediocre boss when you don't need to for better, more conveniant options... go ahead.

Doesn't change her point of people making money, not specifically her.

I was addressing her in specifically though. Since we're both in Scania. You're right in the point that it is harder in other world. But I'm talking about Scania- nothing else.

Pretty sure guide books have been produced that long. Not specifically to video games, but anything in general. Aka outside sources.

FAQ's weren't though. I can't imagine going to a library for info for something like Super Mario Bros back in the 80's.

I'm just gonna stop at this point. You guys can 'have the win' for all it's worth. It's stupid when two people gang up on you when all you did was state research findings. Also, I wanna close on this:

I found it interesting that people with higher social statuses (such as street) can state an opinion contrary to popular belief, but if someone with lower status (such as myself) agrees with said person, then it seems more than okay to argue to the person with lower status. So much so that it's necessary to resort to ganging up on said person.

Meh, the area was interesting for all of the 15 minutes it took me to figure out the maze. Then it comes to the retarded jump quest took me an hour and a half to do get to the other side there's no toad so i'm thinking fine i'll just cc and look on the next one. But wait it sends you out and you have to do the god damn jump quest again. Another thing that i would have enjoyed if it wasn't for that jump quest ninto dropped stonetooth swords the only thing in GMS that did. All in all hated the area couldn't toad because jump quest is a peach and couldn't hunt stonetooths because said jump quest is a peach.

Turns out my brother was missing the Kunoichi Familiar so it's crunch time for us. At least it isn't Ashigaru and his awful spawn, then again, he's spent 3 hours already and we're both nervous.

Turns out my brother was missing the Kunoichi Familiar so it's crunch time for us. At least it isn't Ashigaru and his awful spawn, then again, he's spent 3 hours already and we're both nervous.

Way to remind me what I need t get.

Cant believe they are removing this place. I familiar leeched so many characters of mine and friends from level 50-120 in 1-2 days.
Ive killed over 300, the other pieces are on my other characters: http://tinypic.com/r/e03kfc/6

In order to be on top of my tracks this is what I used (helped alot): http://tinypic.com/r/fxt2qs/6 Created a sheet that would break the spawn times in 3 hour intervals.
Literally had tons of those sheets filled out with a bunch of colors LOL. Toad hunting was a painful job especially since they can spawn in the middle of the morning, but it was summer break so oh well.

Also got a bowmaster from level 190-200 purely from all those toads I've killed.
This is why im going to miss this place. No one came here because they were to lazy to explore and learn how to do the JQ under a minute. The rewards were good, I found over 20 Ele staffs, and made good profit. And this place was very secretive and challenging.

Also to all those people saying toad spawns at 23 hours or at 48 hours, you guys are completley wrong. As a expert in toad killing Ive done actual research to see if this is true. The actual toad spawns are
34-48 hours after being killed. From all the toads Ive killed they never spawned between 23 -34 hours after being killed...
I guess its time to go back to my anego ways...

One thing is for sure, I'll never set foot in Sakura Castle on any character of mine.

I can't believe Nexon is doing this. Sakura Castle is very inferior to the current Ninja Castle. They must have chinchillas in their brains running amok. They also removed the JMS Silent Crusade quest-line. Now, they remove my last favorite area in GMS. They've crossed the line!

This is why JMS is superior to GMS right now. They have Neo Tokyo, Ninja Castle, Hayato & Kanna classes, anime equips, Soul Weapons, and Potential on familiars. Nexon America... Why can't you learn?

They are doing this because they don't like having content that conflicts with KMS's. It makes them have to pay attention, with each patch, not to overwrite our version. So they'd rather just overwrite it once and for all, and who cares which version the players prefer.

I find it funny how one of the biggest reasons people in this thread are arguing for Ninja Castle to stay is because of Castellian Leech.. while it's sad the area's going what use other then Castellian was it? I bet 90% of the people in this thread who are upset would be happy if NEXON added a portal to fight Castellian in the Mirror of Dimension every 48 hours..also for people who's all upset that Castellian leech will be gone train normally..or if you're really that lazy that you HAVE to have leech to level, leech from Grandpa or something.

Kaede Castle should remain because it's a unique area. It's the only area in the game that's built around the idea of being a maze. No other area does that. Every other area is very straight forward on what portal leads to what map. It's is one of the few remaining areas that is build on an actually interesting concept.

I wouldn't always agree with people who say "GMS follows KMS," because that is part wrong. Otherwise, GMS would have no World Tour or non-KMS content other than events, the class names or names of a content would be how they're originally called, LHC party play would be removed, etc.

[MENTION=4093]SaptaZapta[/MENTION] If they were to go by that reason you posted, then the profit GMS gets is:

[video=youtube;a8Dshk1XfDc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Dshk1XfDc[/video]

or worse...

Then again, it's Nexon America. Who knows what would be good or what could possibly go wrong.

I wouldn't always agree with people who say "GMS follows KMS," because that is part wrong. Otherwise, GMS would have no World Tour or non-KMS content other than events, the class names or names of a content would be how they're originally called, LHC party play would be removed, etc.

Content that has no KMS parallel is less of a problem. A KMS patch is not going to overwrite it. But content that KMS has taken and altered, takes effort to keep different.

If that is not the reason for this change, what is?
Even if Ninja Castle is only used by the handful of people per server who have Castellan timed, that's still more people than will use the new Sakura Castle. Absolutely nobody needs a theme dungeon for level ~70. Even those people who choose not to whoosh through its level range in a couple hours at Jesters, have plenty of other places to go and quests to do.

Next thing you know, KMS releases a theme dungeon based off Masteria, and Nexon removes Masteria for it.
...Even though NA already destroyed Masteria.
Makes me wish I could play JMS.

JMS doesn't have Masteria. Never did.

JMS doesn't have Masteria. Never did.

Well, we have CWK, but we have our own version of it. We don't have NLC or anything like that.

Well, we have CWK, but we have our own version of it. We don't have NLC or anything like that.

I forgot that CWK was part of Masteria, mostly because it's not in GMS at all anymore.

Still, we don't have what most people use Masteria for.

I did 5 Toad runs this weekend and not 1 Castellan. The JQ is annoying enough that I will be glad to see it gone

I find it funny how one of the biggest reasons people in this thread are arguing for Ninja Castle to stay is because of Castellian Leech.. while it's sad the area's going what use other then Castellian was it? I bet 90% of the people in this thread who are upset would be happy if NEXON added a portal to fight Castellian in the Mirror of Dimension every 48 hours..also for people who's all upset that Castellian leech will be gone train normally..or if you're really that lazy that you HAVE to have leech to level, leech from Grandpa or something.

Why do you seem to be in favor of it man? Sakura Castle sucks, and I remember you saying that just because we get Sakura Castle doesn't mean we won't keep Ninja Castle. Nexon decided to trash Ninja Castle though, and I still feel it's a loss for us all.

Kaede Castle should remain because it's a unique area. It's the only area in the game that's built around the idea of being a maze. No other area does that. Every other area is very straight forward on what portal leads to what map. It's is one of the few remaining areas that is build on an actually interesting concept.

Phantom forest was originally build around being a maze. Sad its no longer like that. I STILL know the path to cwk for the old forest.

Why do you seem to be in favor of it man? Sakura Castle sucks, and I remember you saying that just because we get Sakura Castle doesn't mean we won't keep Ninja Castle. Nexon decided to trash Ninja Castle though, and I still feel it's a loss for us all.

I never said I was in favor of it. I'm sad to see it going but I can't find myself being THAT sad. For years I wished for Ninja Castle and finally got it. Unfortunately I was a little underwhelmed by it. Sakura Castle isn't THAT bad. The maps aren't that bad for training(experienced myself) and the quests give pretty nice exp. It looks more HD and not as messy as Ninja Castle. Again, I'm not pro Sakura Castle over Ninja Castle, I'm just not going to peach and complain about something I probably cannot change. Maybe enough out cry could make NEXON change their minds. Only time will tell.

Only reason I never set foot in the castle was because Castellan was always out of my level range. Now I'll never get to beat him up. I remember when he came out in JMS and he did OMGEwtpHAX damage. Needless to say, prices of ele weapons, stonetooths, and all those other area-specific weapons are gonna go way up. THere goes my hopes of getting a doomsday staff for my battlemage :/

It's unfortunate that they took out a decent high leveled area in favor of a ridiculously overly focused on level range AND it comes with shitty equipment and a terrible medal. Plus characters in that level range will NEVER go there either because of GMS' wonderful Masteria content which basically covers leveling from level 50 to 12x. I guess I always have zakum to solo now. Chaos zakum when Pianus becomes more available such that it actually spawns. yay streamlining...