US Election Discussion

^That was f'ucking brillant.

Hopefully the Republican party does realize their obvious shortcomings and backwards policies and can change themselves into a better, more viable party.

Nevermind. I did that thing where you confuse debts with deficits.

You're the Skip Bayless of Southperry, and I truly can't understand why people waste the time and effort refuting your ludicrous claims as if there's any sense to them 90% of the time.

I can't believe how hard I laughed at this statement.

^That was f'ucking brillant.

Hopefully the Republican party does realize their obvious shortcomings and backwards policies and can change themselves into a better, more viable party.

Or they could just keep losing and not wonder why. :S

Though, that's not good for anyone including liberals like she has said.

By the way, here's a fun little game we can play while we are on the subject of debt; the current US GDP is 15.09 trillion as of 2011. The current US DEBT is 16.2 trillion. Using math and logic, will higher taxes change anything? The tax rate on EVERYTHING in the country would need to be around 107% to fix this debt in a timely fashion, as of today. Hell, I'll even throw you a bone and say 2 years is still a timely fashion; 53% tax rate. 53% of everything everyone earns in this entire country for an entire year, ASSUMING the debt stops increasing as of today, which it will not, since Obamacare is no longer out the window. I expect the debt to be over DOUBLE the current figure by the end of his second term if nothing is done, in which case, what's happening in Greece right now will look like a stroll through a meadow compared to the situation that we will have on our hands in 4 years.

You really should have either a degree in fortune telling or political science before you throw out accusations like the bolded one.

(Here's a hint: The austerity measures in Greece that caused the riots were imposed by a different country.)

Riots aside, Greece's financial problem is a drop in the ocean compared to the financial problem the USA is in.

Riots aside, Greece's financial problem is a drop in the ocean compared to the financial problem the USA is in.

A completely different ocean, however.

lol so much denial in this thread.

lol so much denial in this thread.

What?

http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episod...ns-goodwin

Colbert makes me want to cry tears of pure joy

A completely different ocean, however.

Same ocean only much vaster and deeper and one that is potentially more violent.

If this topic was on religion most of the people posting here would come across as closed minded fanatical zealots.

I think I'll leave it to you guys...

Same ocean only much vaster and deeper and one that is potentially more violent.

If this topic was on religion most of the people posting here would come across as closed minded fanatical zealots.

I think I'll leave it to you guys...

For those who were also curious what this meant:

I didn't read this thread but since you have an opposite viewpoint than my republican POV, I think you guys are being closed minded while I post completely vague and unnecessary comments in this thread.


Come on Chameleonic, what are you even talking about? Make some sense dude.

You really should have either a degree in fortune telling or political science before you throw out accusations like the bolded one.

Why? It is so clear it doesn't even warrant as much of an explanation as I've already given; if you can't accept it, I fully understand, though, and I'm not trying to force anyone in believing me. Morale is as much of a factor as any, and if people actually understood the gravity of the current situation, ironically, the market would crash even faster because everyone would pull back everything and begin hoarding for the apocalypse. The only way the market can function is with constant consumption, and people that are afraid are MUCH less likely to consume, both luxuries AND necessities.

(Here's a hint: The austerity measures in Greece that caused the riots were imposed by a different country.)

The riots in Greece are only the latest in a long line of things battering that shell of a country, I hope you know.
(Here's another hint of my own, by the way: it's called the "global economy" for a reason.)

Has WW3 started yet?

No?

Damn, well, I'll check back tomorrow then.

The only way the market can function is with constant consumption, and people that are afraid are MUCH less likely to consume, both luxuries AND necessities.

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Has WW3 started yet?

No?

Damn, well, I'll check back tomorrow then.

Romney fans just can't get sleep now... But they shouldn't worry, I'm sure Obamacare will cover "butthurt".

By the way, here's a fun little game we can play while we are on the subject of debt; the current US GDP is 15.09 trillion as of 2011. The current US DEBT is 16.2 trillion. Using math and logic, will higher taxes change anything? The tax rate on EVERYTHING in the country would need to be around 107% to fix this debt in a timely fashion, as of today. Hell, I'll even throw you a bone and say 2 years is still a timely fashion; 53% tax rate. 53% of everything everyone earns in this entire country for an entire year, ASSUMING the debt stops increasing as of today, which it will not, since Obamacare is no longer out the window. I expect the debt to be over DOUBLE the current figure by the end of his second term if nothing is done, in which case, what's happening in Greece right now will look like a stroll through a meadow compared to the situation that we will have on our hands in 4 years.

Good thing there are financial instruments that let one make money when the economy is tanking and the stock market is going down.
Just invest in put options or whatever, and watch the cash roll in.
The only trick is to know when to covert the cash to ammunition, gasoline, and non-perishable foodstuffs.
But I'm sure you'll give Southperry plenty of warning.

-snip-

Please don't tell me you think "consume" only applies to eating...otherwise, I agree with him. People are, by and large, stupid. And consumption is (hopefully) the new national passtime. It doesn't matter if it's "stupid pomegranate", it is still stimulating the economy and keeping a fluid cash flow, which is the lifeblood of this country.

Has WW3 started yet?

No?

Damn, well, I'll check back tomorrow then.

Hey, at least read my conspiracy theory before you bash it, I said 2-3 years!

Good thing there are financial instruments that let one make money when the economy is tanking and the stock market is going down.
Just invest in put options or whatever, and watch the cash roll in.

Have you ever used a put or a call? It's a lot more complicated than you seem to think...however, you are correct, our market is very resilient even in the face of overwhelming odds, which is the reason I care about defending it in the first place!

Romney fans just can't get sleep now... But they shouldn't worry, I'm sure Obamacare will cover "butthurt".

Romnesia is covered by Obamacare. He's looking out for the entire nation, guys!

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

Enjoy the lols and facepalms.