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Sarah Wrote:I feel bad for him. That was painful. I can't even laugh because it's clear he's fucked and Nexon isn't going to show him any mercy.
between this and that, i want these guys to sweat, but aside from the main guy, i don't want any overly severe punishment to these guys.
hell, i'm sure they cause less chaos than people in lower ranks
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Damn, this case has been going on for a while, yet they still don't know who Cam and Bizarro are.
I used to regularly go on that site, so I know a bit about the admins/smods etc.
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I still stand by my opinion that private servers were the best thing to happen to this game.
it gave all the players who did nothing but complain somewhere else to go whine.
but still
that defense
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☺☺☺ Wrote:Damn, this case has been going on for a while, yet they still don't know who Cam and Bizarro are.
I used to regularly go on that site, so I know a bit about the admins/smods etc.
All they care about is finding out where Bizarro is located, and nobody knows that. I don't think they care much about Cam.
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Killed Wrote:All they care about is finding out where Bizarro is located, and nobody knows that. I don't think they care much about Cam. I meant their names, but yeah, that too.
So I guess those two are behind 10 proxies or something, lol.
All I know is that Bizarro is Chinese, studying to be a doctor, and that his name/alias is Andrew, and that Cam is black(African-American, probably).
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Next round up. We got mentioned!
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Rofl, Trying to get the ToS thrown out? Thats pretty ballsy.
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wow more documents. will read them later
Untradeable Wrote:Rofl, Trying to get the ToS thrown out? Thats pretty ballsy.
many of these TOS are laughable and probably have no legal basis to enforce them. I mean, true, you did click the yes button but that doesn't really make them really binding as a contract.

So it is a sensible first step to take
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Eos Wrote:Next round up. We got mentioned!
60 gets me an error message saying "insufficient data for an image, not sure if it's a problem on my or your side.
and on which one we get mentioned?
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:60 gets me an error message saying "insufficient data for an image, not sure if it's a problem on my or your side.
and on which one we get mentioned?
That's your PDF viewer.
Read the write up on #50.
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Funny how he brought up the "I don't live there" subject.
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Pretty sure he was down to panic and desperation on that one.
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The sad part is the father is trying to defend him, and all they can come up with is "Nexon endorses it because it's everywhere without regulation!"
I would think a dad would know, that it's irrelevant if you're participating anyway
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That's not quite what estoppel is, but still, it's a poor defense.
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Eos Wrote:I know! My heart goes out to the guy because he's in a really crappy position I'd hate to see myself in, but uh, at the same time, this is what happens when you support anarchy and destruction.
Yeah the cranes seems all to be a sad story. Crane jr/ lonerboy seems to be a kid with no friends, probably not very rich either, probably also only child.
Eos Wrote:I have my own vested interests in hoping they get the named plaintiffs who are still quiet involved (Ryan et al) and show them no mercy. What sort of vested interest? :f6:
Other than messing up the game, which applies to everyone who plays
did they attack southperry or something?
Also the main players Andrew and Yang will probably escape any legal action unharmed. since they live in china. they will also have kept most of the money from the sites, leaving the american kids stranded and with huge debts from the legal dispute. Though at most they will probably never be able to enter the US ever again if they get a default judgement, or risk having to pay the judgement.
also a note on Crane's defense of jurisdiction
Yes, what he should have done in original submission is challenge jurisdiction alone and not engage with any other elements of the case. By saying stuff like their case is wrong etc he is accepting jurisdiction.
the Cranes appear to be doing their legal research via google
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RayGun Wrote:did they attack southperry or something?
They tried to rip off our status page for their own forum and bypass the advertisements on it for nearly a week of move after counter move, then created their own site to compete with it all rather than just linking to it and giving us credit in the first place.
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RayGun Wrote:Yeah the cranes seems all to be a sad story. Crane jr/ lonerboy seems to be a kid with no friends, probably not very rich either, probably also only child.  "Crane jr" is the one that had nothing to do with any of this, Nexon mistook him for the real lonerboy because of having the same name.
Quote:Also the main players Andrew and Yang will probably escape any legal action unharmed. since they live in china. they will also have kept most of the money from the sites, leaving the american kids stranded and with huge debts from the legal dispute. Though at most they will probably never be able to enter the US ever again if they get a default judgement, or risk having to pay the judgement. 
Nexon doesn't even know who/where cam1596 is, they actually mailed one of their other staff members(don't know who) thinking he was cam1596, and from what I've seen, alphaamar doesn't live in the US either. I'm pretty sure he lives in Canada and India. The only person Nexon got right in all of this is Ryan Cornwall, whose RiPE actually harmed the game. lonerboy barely had 6th grade grammar, let alone able to code/exploit MS. Like you said, they can't touch Bizarro/Yuy, and can't find alphaamar/cam1596. Everyone else they've attacked were just staff members helping run the day to day on the forum.
It's all kind of laughable. I mean if Nexon knew what they were doing or were intimidating them in anyway, the site would be shut down already, or at least forced to stop selling their program.
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Next round of this drama up.
No idea if this one will ever end since half the defendants still seem to be missing, particularly the Titular.
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I find it interesting that Nexon is in fact a Delaware company, though not surprising considering how bad California is lol
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