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Maker - Alchemy Skill FAQ and Walkthrough
D: damn you deja vu, I swear I posted questions in here.

1) What random stats can black crystal give?
2) What random stats can dark crystal give?
3) Pretty please, someone post recipes? >_> I asked almost a month ago and nobody did yet.
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Stereo Wrote:D: damn you deja vu, I swear I posted questions in here.

Or maybe it's because a whole days worth of posts got erased?
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Stereo Wrote:D: damn you deja vu, I swear I posted questions in here.

1) What random stats can black crystal give?
2) What random stats can dark crystal give?
3) Pretty please, someone post recipes? >_> I asked almost a month ago and nobody did yet.
Black crystal gives anything the other jewels can give, with the exception of attack (unless it's a weapon), Magic Attack, and presumably HP/MP as well.

Dark Crystal gives anything the other crystals can give (STR/DEX/INT/LUK)

No one has recipes to share...
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Deviant Wrote:I remember how useless most of the Gems were when refined, it was quite a disappointment, I hope we get it soon enough, so they're not useless anymore.
Also do you need a weapon forging manual to forge the weapons? And for that matter, I hope they change the drops for stimulators so they're easier to come by.

Edit: Also 100k isnt all that bad for appraisal, considering how often diamonds drop from APQ i'd wing it.

2h sword stim is incredibly easy to get at Firebrands (I have like 7 of them)

Edit- Can't wait to forge a 120 overall with 5 str extra, 5 dex extra, and 5 acc extra...+ any potential stat bonuses...same for shoes/gloves (yay for not using SCGs!)

Although I hear they require etc from the Time Temple, which we may not get for quite a while...guess I'll make some decent Black Neos gear first...
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If it is a boss etc item, does it have a good chance of being higher quality powder? I.E. i have 200 Poisonous Mushrooms on an alt. And like 100 or so Yeti Keychains.
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As far as I've seen, the the way that the "random" stats that black and dark crystals give works is similar to the way a chaos scroll works in that some stats may be subtracted or added, restricted to the type of crystal. This seems kind of exploitable to me though since there are a lot of weapons out there with only weapon attack or only weapon attack and another black crystal stat. Any kMS player want to confirm? You could try taking a look at black crystal prices in the FM. Hopefully kMS hasn't had jump quest hackers running around like in global.
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So, can the skill be used on Timeless Weapons?

Let's say you fully level a Timeless Weapon and want to get awesome stats on it. Can you use the Maker Skill with 3 High Grade Crystals to get another 9 Attack and THEN scroll it using scrolls?
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Management Wrote:So, can the skill be used on Timeless Weapons?

Let's say you fully level a Timeless Weapon and want to get awesome stats on it. Can you use the Maker Skill with 3 High Grade Crystals to get another 9 Attack and THEN scroll it using scrolls?
No, maker skill literally MAKES things from materials. IE, you'd have to use Maker to create it before you could equip it and level it or scroll it.
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hmm i got a question

maker skill got 3 lvls

to lvl it you need to do the quest for it right?

isaac said lvl 75 and 105

what happens when we are 120+?
can we still lvl up the skill or no?
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Jeffoface Wrote:hmm i got a question

maker skill got 3 lvls

to lvl it you need to do the quest for it right?

isaac said lvl 75 and 105

what happens when we are 120+?
can we still lvl up the skill or no?

Of course you still can. They are quests that become available at that level and to anyone over that level (like how most quests are).
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FelixTM Wrote:Of course you still can. They are quests that become available at that level and to anyone over that level (like how most quests are).

I think you misunderstood the question.

Let's see, to forge a weapon, you need to be at least 5 levels below it. HOWEVER, to forge lv 80, 90, and 100 stuff... You need to have the lv 2 skill. That is, making the lv 75 quest to upgrade it.

Same goes for the lv 110 and above, with the lv 105 quest for the lv 3 skill. Since it's all the lv 110 and above, there's no need to upgrade again. At least for now.

This is how it works, apparently. Not knowing first hand, so anyone feel free to correct me.
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Alloy Wrote:I think you misunderstood the question.

Let's see, to forge a weapon, you need to be at least 5 levels below it. HOWEVER, to forge lv 80, 90, and 100 stuff... You need to have the lv 2 skill. That is, making the lv 75 quest to upgrade it.

Same goes for the lv 110 and above, with the lv 105 quest for the lv 3 skill. Since it's all the lv 110 and above, there's no need to upgrade again. At least for now.

This is how it works, apparently. Not knowing first hand, so anyone feel free to correct me.

That would be the assumed design. Hard to know for certain if there's not a lot of equips beyond lvl 120 though (and the elemental staves fall under the "gach" category?).
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Alloy Wrote:I think you misunderstood the question.

Let's see, to forge a weapon, you need to be at least 5 levels below it. HOWEVER, to forge lv 80, 90, and 100 stuff... You need to have the lv 2 skill. That is, making the lv 75 quest to upgrade it.

Same goes for the lv 110 and above, with the lv 105 quest for the lv 3 skill. Since it's all the lv 110 and above, there's no need to upgrade again. At least for now.

This is how it works, apparently. Not knowing first hand, so anyone feel free to correct me.
This is correct.
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Is the JMS special recepee thing for earrings the only special one?
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Alright, I'm way too lazy to look through this whole thread for an answer I probably won't find, so here's a quick question to you, Isaac.

Apparently, Item Maker doesn't work with common items, so would this make things like Sauna Robes or common top+bottom statgivers less practical? Could Item Maker really create class-specific equipment that would "out-stat" something like a 15 stat top + 15 stat bottom combination?
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Lucida top is 9 stats, so str+dex high level crystals would make it 19 stats clean (potentially 30+ stats on the top alone)

So yeah.
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Greg Wrote:Alright, I'm way too lazy to look through this whole thread for an answer I probably won't find, so here's a quick question to you, Isaac.

Apparently, Item Maker doesn't work with common items, so would this make things like Sauna Robes or common top+bottom statgivers less practical? Could Item Maker really create class-specific equipment that would "out-stat" something like a 15 stat top + 15 stat bottom combination?
well, Saunas and bath robes will still have their place (you can't make any equips below 50, so you could use a bathrobe from 20-50.) but yes, it should be pretty easy for most classes to beat out the average Sauna.
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now i have a question, what grade jewel do you need for a level 70 weapon? like low grade A or so on.
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Does anyone know how the equipment dismantling system works? I'd imagine it ignores all effects on the item before dismantling, so could you perhaps toss 10%s on equipment, and if they don't work, dismantle them and make them again?

Also, is there a maker recipe database out there somewhere? It's been released for quite a while in kMS and jMS, and I'm sure the Hidden Street would have a database of recipes within a few months of its release in global. Shouldn't there be some Korean or Japanese equivalent out there, especially considering that both those versions are supposed to be a lot more popular than global?

lord farkuad Wrote:now i have a question, what grade jewel do you need for a level 70 weapon? like low grade A or so on.

I believe you need low-grade monster crystal As to make level 70 items.
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Cyanne Wrote:Also, is there a maker recipe database out there somewhere? It's been released for quite a while in kMS and jMS, and I'm sure the Hidden Street would have a database of recipes within a few months of its release in global. Shouldn't there be some Korean or Japanese equivalent out there, especially considering that both those versions are supposed to be a lot more popular than global?
Fiel made a thread on Sleepywood a long time ago that was basically an item maker 'recipe' database. But obviously, that was lost when he changed all his posts to advertise Southperry after he made this site and then the subsequent deletion of his Sleepywood account.

Let's all beg Fiel to repost it? Wink
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