v.96 AfterShock 03.09.2011

I am prepared to admit when I'm wrong. Based on the description though I don't think I will be. Unless someone has definite inside information and not basing what they think on their own interpretation of the description I am not worried.

No one is going to play your silly games. Go troll somewhere else.

Dusk agreed. I'm not trolling. Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
It would be interesting to see others participate, though.

You need to stop reading things the way you hope they'll turn out. You'll get far more disappointed in life that way.

I am not reading things "The way I hope they'll turn out to be." I explained the description as literally as possible. At least Dusk tried to argue my logic with his own instead of leaving some inane comment. Also, I don't need life lessons from an mmorpg fan forum

I think all of you are missing out on the most crucial part of the description...

It doesn't stack with 2X events! D: *Snickers* (Only semi-serious)

On an off-topic side note, what happened to the mushroom emoticon with the "Dee Colon" face?

I am prepared to admit when I'm wrong. Based on the description though I don't think I will be. Unless someone has definite inside information and not basing what they think on their own interpretation of the description I am not worried.



Dusk agreed. I'm not trolling. Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
It would be interesting to see others participate, though.

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I am prepared to admit when I'm wrong. Based on the description though I don't think I will be. Unless someone has definite inside information and not basing what they think on their own interpretation of the description I am not worried.

2x EXP Card (5211000)
This coupon allows users to earn 2x Exp (double experience). The coupon will be activated immediately after purchase, and the double experience effect will be available from 6pm ~ 8pm (Pacific time) for c7 days.

Ruby EXP Coupon
This coupon allows users to earn #c150% Exp#. The coupon will be activated immediately after purchase, and the double experience effect will be available for 1 hour upon purchase. Can't stack with 2x EXP Event.

Sapphire EXP Coupon
This coupon allows users to earn #c130% Exp#. The coupon will be activated immediately after purchase, and the double experience effect will be available for 1 hour upon purchase. Can't stack with 2x EXP Event.

Do you guys see the similarity now?

Seriously, this 2x until you get to 150% bullsh`it needs to stop. It's a fail copy paste and that's all there is to it. Stop reading between the lines.

They decided to nerf the exp coupon, so what? Nexon loves cash. This is nothing new. If they really did C/P fail in a cash shop item hats off to them and all the litigation they'll be tied up in for deceptive labeling. The fact of the matter is I think both sides have said all there is to be said on the subject and unfortunately, the proof we're all looking for is in the facts. Those will be revealed tomorrow.

Wait, didn't Tespia start a few days ago?

So it's over already? Should I expect a bug free patch thanks to the effort of the Tespians? -_-;

Wait, didn't Tespia start a few days ago?

So it's over already? Should I expect a bug free patch thanks to the effort of the Tespians? -_-;

Considering Nexons reputation with bugs. I doubt they fixed the bugs. MAYBE IM WRONG THOUGH.

They decided to nerf the exp coupon, so what? Nexon loves cash. This is nothing new. If they really did C/P fail in a cash shop item hats off to them and all the litigation they'll be tied up in for deceptive labeling. The fact of the matter is I think both sides have said all there is to be said on the subject and unfortunately, the proof we're all looking for is in the facts. Those will be revealed tomorrow.

Wait, didn't Tespia start a few days ago?

So it's over already? Should I expect a bug free patch thanks to the effort of the Tespians? -_-;

It only lasted 4 days I think. Any bugs we find post-patch will be the fault of Nexon, not the testers. They're well known for only fixing game breaking bugs that are found and leaving most of the ones reported.

Apologies for disagreeing with you, fool.

I'd just like to add that if the coupons turn out to be 1.5x/1.3x multipliers that I hope the descriptions are modified to remove any ambiguity, since at the very least that is something we can agree on.

Dear Nexon,

Now that you have added your cash cow (EXP Cards) to the cash shop once again, could we please have the permanent clothing option re-added to the cash shop.

Thank you.

Early patches are always nice but they really need to extend the tespia period like KMS.

I guess I will finally have to make a Cygnus now, time to get creative with my slots.

Not looking forward to the ring event again, very boring. Though depending on the patch length maybe I can get a LV17 ring this time. It would be nice to think I could upgrade one right away but I guess that is not possible.

Also the patch can't come soon enough, all this exp card talk is ridiculous.

Ok, so they patch every 2-3 months then. They also spoke of anniversary and Chaos in the same article, so I simply took it as a package. I'm sure they could patch a little anniverary event in between though, as you say. Be that as it may, the idea that Chryse might be released later than Lionking aint far fetched, and that was really what I wanted to say. Tespia does nothing but confirm that idea. When we got to test Big Bang, they patched Edelstein in but we could not go there for obvious reasons. Unless Chryse was released in the same patch as Lionking in KMS I do not think there is much base in thinking it will be here.

NEXON said the 6th anniversary in May will be BIG 0.o. They said they've been working (in the last few Q&A's) on some "cool, awesome, big exclusive content".

Wait, didn't Tespia start a few days ago?

So it's over already? Should I expect a bug free patch thanks to the effort of the Tespians? -_-;

One can only dream. Nah probably just the stuff that we will notice and the stuff that will bother no one will probably stay.

I am prepared to admit when I'm wrong. Based on the description though I don't think I will be. Unless someone has definite inside information and not basing what they think on their own interpretation of the description I am not worried.



Dusk agreed. I'm not trolling. Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
It would be interesting to see others participate, though.




I am not reading things "The way I hope they'll turn out to be." I explained the description as literally as possible. At least Dusk tried to argue my logic with his own instead of leaving some inane comment. Also, I don't need life lessons from an mmorpg fan forum

No, I'm just less willing to call troll on any opinion I disagree with, although I still think your explanation makes no sense at all.

No, I'm just less willing to call troll on any opinion I disagree with, although I still think your explanation makes no sense at all.

No?
You said okay earlier, now you're saying no? Nevermind all that though, if you don't want to participate, fine by me.
Let me try and help you understand my explanation(because I completely understand the counter point).
let's disregard the whole 2x aspect of it. The description of the coupon says "This coupon allows users to earn 130%/150% Exp". I believe this does not refer to any exp boost at all, but as in, 0-->100% (aka 1 level) + 30%/50% more. It is nerfed. It willl not allow a lv 1 user to gain xxx% amount of exp within the hour because the description states it only "allows users to earn 130%/150%"

Can you make sense out of that? I can't spoon feed it to you anymore than that.

No?
You said okay earlier, now you're saying no? Nevermind all that though, if you don't want to participate, fine by me.
Let me try and help you understand my explanation(because I completely understand the counter point).
let's disregard the whole 2x aspect of it. The description of the coupon says "This coupon allows users to earn 130%/150% Exp". As in, 0-->100% (aka 1 level) + 30%/50% more. It is nerfed. It willl not allow a lv 1 user to gain xxx% amount of exp within the hour because the description states it only "allows users to earn 130%/150%"

Can you make sense out of that? I can't spoon feed it to you anymore than that.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Here's a good example. Hurricane does 200% damage. That means your range x2 (ignoring defence, etc any other constants). Strafe does 150% damage. That means your range x1.5.
Double experience gives 2x, which is 200% exp. These give 150% exp, which is 1.5x.

No?
You said okay earlier, now you're saying no? Nevermind all that though, if you don't want to participate, fine by me.
Let me try and help you understand my explanation(because I completely understand the counter point).
let's disregard the whole 2x aspect of it. The description of the coupon says "This coupon allows users to earn 130%/150% Exp". I believe this does not refer to any exp boost at all, but as in, 0-->100% (aka 1 level) + 30%/50% more. It is nerfed. It willl not allow a lv 1 user to gain xxx% amount of exp within the hour because the description states it only "allows users to earn 130%/150%"

Can you make sense out of that? I can't spoon feed it to you anymore than that.

Nexon has never referred to a fraction of a levelup as "% exp."

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Here's a good example. Hurricane does 200% damage. That means your range x2 (ignoring defence, etc any other constants). Strafe does 150% damage. That means your range x1.5.
Double experience gives 2x, which is 200% exp. These give 150% exp, which is 1.5x.

My argument for that is they never referred to xp boosts as percentages before, strictly integers. I've already stated that and for the sake of not continuing to clutter up this thread with points already made, I think we should just give it a rest until the final verdict is in. I won't bait anyone into feeling the urge to making a comeback and I'll let any of you say your final words.

i feel that the "double experience effect" part of the description, if in fact it is erroneousness, is such a huge mistake that I find it feasible that at the very least they would have to deal with massive refunds until the description is corrected to accurately reflect what the coupon actually does. That is to say if the description remains in tact with today/tomorrows update.

Pendant of Spirit refered to 1.3x exp as +30%, and the 369 event also refered to 2x as 200% EXP.

Lmao at people speculating some ridiculous things. Really now? Exp cards that only allow you to gain 120%/150% experience? So what, nexon is going to have the card removed from your inventory the moment you hit 120%/150% gained? I don't get why people are mass speculating something as ridiculous as this. Oh well, patch is tonight, we'll see soon haha.

I'm really curious about the evolving ring event 2, if its the same event as the previous, then woot, i can turn the level 14 rings i have into level 17 ones in only 3 days =D.

I'm really curious about the evolving ring event 2, if its the same event as the previous, then woot, i can turn the level 14 rings i have into level 17 ones in only 3 days =D.

I have my doubts that it'll allow us to do this, but it would be nice if they do. I only got my ring to lv3 last time :|

I wish I knew if these rings were different or are able to be equipped with the other Evolving Ring. I always hesitated on selling my extra ring with the thought it would go up in price later. :[