The Archer Discussion Thread

I think my dog's okay now. Adjusting to using his sense of smell to compensate for his lack of eyesight. He whines for me or my mom really loudly almost all the time, though. He doesn't like being alone.

About Golden Temple, the spawn of the Level 11x mobs isn't that good compared to Captains/Kru, at least for a Ranger. If you don't have a way to reliably knockback and mob the monkeys (which Night Walkers don't, IIRC), or have a super long ranged mob skill (which Night Walkers probably do), it's going to be roughly the same speed or slower. The main difference being that you'll be taking in the range of 1k+ touch damage from the monkeys (along with them having bigger hitboxes) in comparison to Captains/Kru.

I mean, I can do both, but it's just too much effort to set up for an increased EXP rate that seems to be so minimal that it's not really worth it. I'd say the only reason why Captains/Kru is faster for me is due to the dense spawn and how godly Arrow Rain is there.

I'm going to try the 10x mobs tomorrow, although I suspect the spawn won't be much better there. If it isn't, I might as well just spend the rest of the Golden Temple days hunting for sunbursts. (In that case, I have another question: Do Strong Stone Goblins have the highest drop rate of Sunbursts, or do they all have the same rate? And which side drops more, normal or mirror mode?)

I think that Golden temple is ok but it would be better if it had more moby spots.

Wind Piercing anyone?

I think I might quest for it.. but like, when I'm bored.. it's not entirely useful.. just another skill
But I like skills. So I want it for funnn :o

Yay, finally passed BE30 on the 4th try...

Now to raise up money for SE20 and hope that I don't fail that.

Wind Piercing anyone?

I think I might quest for it.. but like, when I'm bored.. it's not entirely useful.. just another skill
But I like skills. So I want it for funnn :o

In my personal opinion, I think the only worth UA quest doing at all would be for Soul Driver. Vampire is pretty bad, Wind Piercing seems useless, Shark Wave is just hilariously stupid, and Flame Gear doesn't seem like anything special.

In my personal opinion, I think the only worth UA quest doing at all would be for Soul Driver. Vampire is pretty bad, Wind Piercing seems useless, Shark Wave is just hilariously stupid, and Flame Gear doesn't seem like anything special.

Only Warriors can get Soul Driver, right? :C

Only Warriors can get Soul Driver, right? :C

Yeah, it's for each respected job.
Would be odd seeing an archer with Soul Driver.

Would be sick seeing an archer with Soul Driver.

:3

I'll probably try to get at least one point in Wind Piercing due to how flashy it is.

Plus, the mobs that drop the super rare quest items to learn Wind Piercing also drop gold ores. Spadow mentioned that gold ores become especially valuable after the Chaos Patch.

(I'm hoarding up on ores now, hahaha.)

Shark Wave is just hilariously stupid,

wtp? Not only does a lot of damage (517% to 7 monsters when maxed) and have a good range, it looks really cool.
They are sharks... made of thunder energy, totally represents the Pirate Cygnus, what is wrong with it?

In my personal opinion, I think the only worth UA quest doing at all would be for Soul Driver. Vampire is pretty bad, Wind Piercing seems useless, Shark Wave is just hilariously stupid, and Flame Gear doesn't seem like anything special.

I remember reading that wind piercing gets up to 6 mobs after chaos (UA version)

wtp? Not only does a lot of damage (517% to 7 monsters when maxed) and have a good range, it looks really cool.
They are sharks... made of thunder energy, totally represents the Pirate Cygnus, what is wrong with it?

Torpedo.
Energy Orb.
Dragon Strike.

I remember reading that wind piercing gets up to 6 mobs after chaos (UA version)

Pierce.
Inferno.
Blizzard.

By the time you guys even finish the quest you'll be well over 120, if anything.

welllllp, i plan on making a UA marksman. i just got my DW Hurkule to 120, i have a cruel ring i can give my MM, and some hacker traded me a 14 att wg for some crappy item i was selling on basil and told me to shhhhhhhhtfu, hahaha, so i'm looking forward to it. i have the IGN i want saved (would love to share it but i'm all mysterious like dat). wind piercing is gonna be boss because eruption/AR get nerfed bad, plus i love the cygnus armor sets they give you, and the special medal.

i've wanted to make a marksman for ages, but my shadower always got in the way, i figured the UA would be a good excuse to do that and get 24 free w.att. x)

also, does anyone know where there is some good xbowman/sniper/marksman fan art?
[edit] oh yeah! i meant to propose this little thought experiment.

what if MM could use snipe while in the prone position?

a) it's perfectly fitting
b) there is no advantage or disadvantage to having it. it's just a unique feature of the skill. especially since bosses don't really have projectile attacks to actually duck from, you just get hit or missed no matter what. and against normal monsters who do have them, it wouldn't matter, cause you 1hko them anyway.

OR, if it were to have advantages/disadvantages, what would they be? here's what i think:

PRO (note: going by the new chaos snipe skill): when in prone, you get a critical damage boost and +30 w.att boost if you are using snipe on bosses, or,, instead, it does 1000% x4 instead of 900%
CON: your avoid becomes 0/0% and your w.def is halved during the snipe animation while prone

eh?

ya..

Don't make a Marksman solely because of Wind Piercing.. because it merely replaces Iron Arrow.. that's it =/
You'll still use Eruption for sures and even Blizzard > Piercing is most situation.. freezes and is faster..

But I mean if you want a Marksman anyways, go for it
Just saying.. the best UA are Warriors..

Don't make a Marksman solely because of Wind Piercing.. because it merely replaces Iron Arrow.. that's it =/
You'll still use Eruption for sures and even Blizzard > Piercing is most situation.. freezes and is faster..

But I mean if you want a Marksman anyways, go for it
Just saying.. the best UA are Warriors..

AE and Blizzard replace IA. I didn't have Pierce when BB came around but I still didn't find any use whatsoever for Iron Arrow in 3rd or 4th Job.

i'm not doing it to be the best, i'm just doing it cause i love the class and i know it'll be fun. WP will be a good finisher though as opposed to using another pierce, or in situations where you don't need to charge

Passed Marksman's Boost 20!

 Spoiler

Also bought 2 Marksman's Boost 30 and failed them f3. Got 10mil meso to my name now 8D

Edit: Merch'd some stuff, and passed MMB30

stuff about prone snipe

O god it's you lmao how are you also on southperry
L> mmb30 ... =_=

Oh.. btw I already failed 2 Bow Expert 30's.. so I'm just doing absolutely nothing to train/merch and get another one..

..ya..

This hat is so cool looking. Not sure if this qualifies as Archer discussion, but damn. Archers have nice hats.