[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight

Check my spoiler on page 5? I think I've got them down...

EDIT: Oh what the heck. Forget it. Here you go.

III
- Battle Charge (the rush skill)
- Teleport Mastery

IV
- Energize (increases max HP and both types of def)

Well first of all, i was at vans warp tour all day yesterday and didn't read this thread at all so i couldn't see your post. Second of all, there are THREE new 3rd job skills. I already know what rush and tele mastery is because it's obvious. Energize i didn't know though, but it explains the drop in HP i noticed.

So we can't put our 3rd Job SP into 2nd Job skills anymore?

Resistance characters can't do that to begin with.

Well, I was talking about putting points from higher jobs back into lower ones. Bandit SP is a lot tighter post-BB. You can't even max Steal anymore without gimping your other second job skills, since they removed Endure (although I guess it'd still be nice to leave Steal at 37? no idea in order to max Keen Eyes). Third job has more than three useful skills now. So what I meant is Bandits don't really have a reason to put points back into earlier jobs.

We need to max Dark Sight (A first job skill) for when we get Assassinate, which relies on Dark Sight.

Someone should make video of the changes to the BattleMage.

Are you sure that's not because you're not hitting a monster? 'Cause Charge Blow never took away your charge when you were just hitting air. (Or water in your case)

Video proof that charge blow always keep charge in 3rd job. Its the equivalent of crusaders getting Brandish in 3rd job.

lvl 100 white knight
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=12861

i find it odd that he uses combat orders when supposedly according to fiel it only works on 4th job skills. i wish he showed his skill window so we could see if combat orders is actually working on his 3rd job skills or not.

its a Daum video since Daum is the only one that actualy works for me so this is one of the few paladin videos im able to watch
it sucks that most of the paladin videos are on pandora becuase i can never get pandora to work ever.

By the way, Charge Blow takes away the charge even when you don't hit a monster. I tested it right now.

I don't see Steal gaining any real value, even with the mobbing potential. Unless you priotitize it over SB (Lolwut) you won't get it till late 2nd job anyways, and BoT easily replaces it.

That being said, I have 29 steal and went and maxed dark sight. Steal isn't an auto activate skill, so I doubt so many people would go back and put points into a fully useless skill. Most Dits/CBs/Shads I see have Steal, just don't have it set to a hotkey and never use it.

The only utility value Steal has past second job is its 100% stun, which is only replaced by Boomerang Step.

it sucks that most of the paladin videos are on pandora becuase i can never get pandora to work ever.

Same here. Most of the good archmage videos are on the site and I still haven't found
way to download them.

They offer a 'premium service' for those who are affected by the bandwith/overload issues... =/

Video proof that charge blow always keep charge in 3rd job. Its the equivalent of crusaders getting Brandish in 3rd job.

lvl 100 white knight
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=12861

i find it odd that he uses combat orders when supposedly according to fiel it only works on 4th job skills. i wish he showed his skill window so we could see if combat orders is actually working on his 3rd job skills or not.

its a Daum video since Daum is the only one that actualy works for me so this is one of the few paladin videos im able to watch
it sucks that most of the paladin videos are on pandora becuase i can never get pandora to work ever.

ok. now I know why knight have no new mob skill at 3rd job. It is because charge blow is now spammable.

crusader - brandish
knight- charge blow
dk - crusher

By the way, Charge Blow takes away the charge even when you don't hit a monster. I tested it right now.

? so charge still keep charge or not. confusing!

? so charge still keep charge or not. confusing!

Before Big Bang: Always loses charge in 3rd job, keeps it in 4th job
After Big Bang: Always keeps charge in 3rd and 4th job

The only utility value Steal has past second job is its 100% stun, which is only replaced by Boomerang Step.

I always went the KILL KILL KILL route and never particularly cared about Stun.... So in my eyes, even when it can mob, it's useless. What's the point in stunning a mob just so the stun can be canceled the next time you hit it? This is assuming you're training and are hitting the mob until it dies.

Didn't someone post a vid awhile back showing a Bandit training effectively with super-buffed steal?

And I care about stun...although that's probably my Corsair bias being used to trying to never get hit.

? so charge still keep charge or not. confusing!

It never uses up the charge now so it's effectively spammable in 3rd job -- provided you have a charge active.
;-;

As for combat orders, I'm unsure if it works with 1st/2nd/3rd job skills considering the WK in that video is using it.
Could Fiel clear that up a bit?

Didn't someone post a vid awhile back showing a Bandit training effectively with super-buffed steal?

And I care about stun...although that's probably my Corsair bias being used to trying to never get hit.

Because when you hit a stunned mob with a ranged attack it doesn't cancel the stun, but if you hit it with a melee attack it does. I have no idea why it's like that.

And that video wasn't really a fair comparism. The bandit was hitting as high as a lvl 90 something Dit at lvl 55. Of course Steal was looking good in that vid...

oic. Thanks bounty tan and baklava for clearing the confusion.

So all warrior got spammable mob skill now.

grats all knights!

[video=youtube;IPWf35Yjbc8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPWf35Yjbc8[/video].

As you can see, i'm wearing a clean level 25 staff.

[video=youtube;IPWf35Yjbc8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPWf35Yjbc8[/video].

As you can see, i'm wearing a clean level 25 staff.

Did you just tele while in cyclone at 2:08?

If so, I'm totally making a Battle Mage.

Yes, you can tele-nado again.

Yes, you can tele-nado again.

Does it work with Teleport Mastery?

Yes, you can tele-nado again.

[IMGSPOILER]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6687/happyface770659.png[/IMGSPOILER]

Does it work with Teleport Mastery?

Uh, good question...i didn't notice anything like that happening.