Sneak peek of the new Thief and Pirate

Thanks for quoting my first post :f6:
But yes they deserve an update as much as Night Lords or Shadowers....

No, not as much as them. If anything, they deserve it as much as marksmen for example. They already have skills that mix well between them, insane damage buffs... Instead of skills that negate each others and the likes. Shadow shifter makes dark flare go worse, soul star negates star mastery's critical effect, ANY attack makes shadow web useless...
I'd say Night Lords need a revamp a LOT more than Dual bladers.

Alex I'm arguing on the basis that KMS said a complete overhaul for thieves and pirates not on which job needs a revamp more, their current skills, or DPS Tiers.
DBs are thieves like Night Lords and Shadowers and therefore deserve a revamp as much as Night Lords and Shadowers.
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 @ Muppy

I see a giant Octopus with guns.
I approve.

Omigod. Motivation to hit Bucc regained.

Alex I'm arguing on the basis that KMS said a complete overhaul for thieves and pirates not on which job needs a revamp more, their current skills, or DPS Tiers.
DBs are thieves like Night Lords and Shadowers and therefore deserve a revamp as much as Night Lords and Shadowers.
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 @ Muppy

Cannon shooters and mechanics should also deserve it as much also, by your logic.

DBs are thieves right? or did I miss something......

They are thieves.

Thanks for quoting my first post :f6:
But yes they deserve an update as much as Night Lords or Shadowers....

I demand to know your logic behind this statement, if it even exists.

Alex I'm arguing on the basis that KMS said a complete overhaul for thieves and pirates not on which job needs a revamp more, their current skills, or DPS Tiers.
DBs are thieves like Night Lords and Shadowers and therefore deserve a revamp as much as Night Lords and Shadowers.
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 @ Muppy

Edit: Owait, nvm.

Your reasoning for them deserving a revamp is that KMS said it was coming for Thieves? So if they said a revamp is coming for Thieves you'd say Mercedes deserves a revamp as much as regular BM and MM? And by your logic, what about Cannon Shooters?

Double double double D:<

I demand to know your logic behind this statement, if it even exists.
Edit: Owait, nvm.
Your reasoning for them deserving a revamp is that KMS said it was coming for Thieves? So if they said a revamp is coming for archers you'd say Mercedes deserves a revamp as much as regular BM and MM? And by your logic, what about Cannon Shooters?

Yes? Unless they said it was for the adventurer archer I'd expect a revamp for Mercedes as well.

Cannon shooters and mechanics should also deserve it as much also, by your logic.

My point was that nowhere does it say that......
Edit: Does it even make a difference what type of adventurer DBs are? They are thieves and therefore should receive a complete revamp. I could argue the same thing about mechanics since they're pirates if you want.
(but idc about mechanics )

Although Cannon Shooters don't need that major of a revamp since they just came out (unless its to put them on par with demon slayers/mercedes lol)

Yes....

So, in essence, you're not saying they NEED a revamp, just that you feel they should technically get one because Nexon technically said Thieves are getting a revamp, of which Dual Blades technically are classified as.

K.

I'm sure nexon Korea will revamp us, whether we need it or not.
After all, we are the only class that they completely change the playstyle of in every big patch.

My point was that nowhere does it say that......

Edit: Does it even make a difference what type of adventurer DBs are? They are thieves and therefore should receive a complete revamp. I could argue the same thing about mechanics since they're pirates if you want.
(but idc about mechanics )

that's why i said it's IMPLIED because cannoneer is new, db received many revamps with new skills added and such when REGULAR adventurers barely got any new skills, and mechanics already got their revamps. therefore the only reasonable revamp that the added adventurer will get are minor skill tweak

Why does it matter who needs it more?
You guys are acting like revamping dual blades would somehow make NL's revamp worse.

wat ppl are implying is that the attention should be put on nl,dit,sair, and bucc more

Adventurers got revamped twice since the last dualblade revamp.
Your point is null.

Adventurers got revamped twice since the last dualblade revamp.
Your point is null.

adventurers without sin,dit,sair, and bucc
ur just plain stupid

Adventurers got revamped twice since the last dualblade revamp.
Your point is null.

But we're talking about Dual Blades compared to the other Thieves, which would make your entire post false.

I honestly don't know if your ignorant, stupid, or one giant mixture.

1. "Regular Adventurers" implies all adventurers.
2. Why are you all so butthurt? I doubt any of you have a dual blade so why do you give a f'uck?
Do you honestly think that they have the same person working on all the revamps and that working on a dual blade one would make the other revamps of poorer quality?

But we're talking about Dual Blades compared to the other Thieves, which would make your entire post false.

I honestly don't know if your ignorant, stupid, or one giant mixture.

Given that he (along with everyone and their mother) has been wanting a thief/pirate revamp and being annoyed with the 2 archer/magician/warrior revamps while thief/pirate updates haven't happened, it's fair to say that he actually knows what he's talking about and is making a logical point.
Whatever, though.
It may be nice to condescend to other people with whom you are arguing, but when your insults are illogical and hypocritical, it becomes annoying to us all.
You have earned a place on my ignore list.

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that's why i said it's IMPLIED because cannoneer is new, db received many revamps with new skills added and such when REGULAR adventurers barely got any new skills, and mechanics already got their revamps. therefore the only reasonable revamp that the added adventurer will get are minor skill tweak

No need to insult me for not understanding my point. And what are you talking about lol...
And no Mechanics (along with Thunder Breakers and Night Walkers) should technically get another skill tweak or new skills since Nexon said Pirate a complete overhaul on thieves and pirates.

'Adventurers' in your case = all but pirates/thieves?
Didn't DBs recently get revamped so big, that they have 2 or 3 new -main attacks-, where shads and NLs only got minor tweaks to damage/range of skills, with SP/FJ for shads(which every thief already had)? Oh, and flare, which has minor use as is.
These four adventurers need the real re-haul.

By recently you mean awhile ago right...? Before that update Upper Stab was the main single/multi-target attack for DBs since Chains of Hell was practically useless so giving them a two new attacks wasn't that major when NLs and Shadowers already had the same.

Adventurers got revamped twice since the last dualblade revamp.
Your point is null.

'Adventurers' in your case = all but pirates/thieves?
Didn't DBs recently get revamped so big, that they have 2 or 3 new -main attacks-, where shads and NLs only got minor tweaks to damage/range of skills, with SP/FJ for shads(which every thief already had)? Oh, and flare, which has minor use as is.
These four adventurers need the real re-haul.

Also, I have a(n abandoned) DB @ your statement. (It being abandoned doesn't lessen my point, DBs just got their giant re-haul with Chaos, while the others only got tweaks since BB.)

1. "Regular Adventurers" implies all adventurers.

No, it implies REGULAR adventurers, of which Dual Blades are not.

2. Why are you all so butthurt? I doubt any of you have a dual blade so why do you give a f'uck?

You're right, I don't have a Dual Blade. But I DO have a Shadower and a Night Lord, neither of which have ever been in the position you Dual Blades find yourself in every other patch. This is OUR time now. Go cry about it somewhere else. Dual Blades are really starting to be as bad as the Night Lords, except at least the Night Lords are actually justified in all their bitching.

Do you honestly think that they have the same person working on all the revamps and that working on a dual blade one would make the other revamps of poorer quality?

I could write you a super, long, tl;dr for most paragraph explaining exactly why I think this and provide several examples to further back my story, but instead...

*Takes a deep breath* - Yes.