[KMS] [1.2.132] New Opening Video

In reality, a pedophile is someone attracted to the innocence of a child, and any sexual activity whatsoever with a child would be counterproductive to their "cuteness", so to be honest, that is really why I feel that people who think pedophiles have sex with children are simply ignorant of the reality of the situation.

I'm more emotionally attracted to them because of their refreshingly "nice" attitudes as opposed to the toxic attitudes many adults have.

I do not want to jump to any conclusions here, but are you calling yourself a pedophile? If so, do you understand the implications of stating that you are a pedophile regardless if your definition of pedophilia may differ from others?

I do not want to jump to any conclusions here, but are you calling yourself a pedophile? If so, do you understand the implications of stating that you are a pedophile regardless if your definition of pedophilia may differ from others?

I have no problems with it, I'm 23 and my parents have known for half a decade now. Most of my family knows as well, and they still let me play video games and stuff with their kids without being afraid I'm going to go all psycho on them. The main thing you need to judge a person on is character, not mindset. I'm already fine with the fact that I will be a virgin for the rest of my life, it doesn't really bother me that much to be honest; the only thing I've ever seen from any relationship is an mediocre entry, a boring center and a bitter ending, and I'm not interested in the whole "one night stand" concept, either.

Why is what turns on other people we don't even know, even up for discussion in the first place?

That kind of stuff really should be kept behind closed doors, only discussed with someone you're dating or before beating the living hell out of someone who was hitting on your daughter (or son.)

Not shared freely, nor inquired into unless it involves said person. It's inappropriate and a really Effing-hot-button. The turn this thread took is proof of that in my opinion.

You're very brave Flonne, like seriously. I'm saying this now because I have a feeling a huge pomegranatestorm is coming.

Dear jesus, may all the maplers who have srs buisness maple bfs/gfs and find pixels somehow attractive never see this.

thank you.

You know, with all the death, arson, theft, poison and injury in MapleStory, you'd think that people would be complaining about child violence and glorification of the senseless slaughter of innocent wildlife for self-gratification before they started on child porn...

Actual children aside, my argument is strictly towards anime lolis.

And, possibly since I'm still near the age of 16, I find it hard to to believe that there is a difference between a 16 year old and an 18 year old. Besides the fact that they become ''legal to pineapple''. That's just stupid.

Now, I am not condoning the actual molestation of children, and I am not crazy enough to suggest that little people need to be used as sex objects for attention.

My argument is that people are taking it too far, and this is actually affecting innocent people, you can find an article on the internet called ''The Crime of Reading Manga'', where you can read how someone was arrested for watching Gao Gai Gar, because it had the slogan ''This is for those who haven't grown up yet, we know who you are, and you know to!'', which was seen as code words for pedophilia.

The argument of ''Victimless Crime'' shouldn't apply, while it is true that some people see this as an outlet for actual children, some people see it as a means to continue their urges on with the real thing. This becomes a stale-mate, no matter what you do, some child is going to be molested, it's what happens in life, blocking any and all ''inappropriate'' images are not going to help this at all.


Tell me where there is immorality in stuff such as Loli, all I hear is ''WOMEN UNDER 18 ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPOSE THEIR BODIES, BECAUSE THE EVIL PERVERTED MEN WILL RAPE CHILDREN AFTER SEEING CARTOON IMAGES OF THEM!''
Who does this save? Who is this helping? This is just for the mental masturbation of self-righteous and morally obsessed people.

And while this may seem like a Taboo subject, this has to be addressed sooner or later, I'm getting tired of people telling me the only thing people are allowed to be attracted in are 30 year old milfs with sagging tits. Real children, the thought is disgusting as hell, but in Anime, there are more reasons to be attracted to Loli's other than the fact that they ''look young''. Most Anime's have overbreasted characters, and that's about all they do to them. ''GIVE THEM BIG BREASTS, NEXT''. These usually exceed the size of a human head, it's just disgusting. They usually put more time into artistically drawing loli's, because they can't just draw oversized boobs on them, it's not PURELY for the fact that they look young. But the fact that they don't have generous fat on their skin is also a plus.


Before anyone gives me an Ad Hominem attack, no, I am not a pedophile, the thought of touching little children disgusts me to no end. And while I really don't care about some 16 year old girls buisiness, I think it's fine if they go off having sex, it's their life to screw up, not yours. I hope you know that MANY 16 year old girls would lose really good boyfriends if your logic was to be considered accurate. Also, I don't believe in Karma, but let me say this before I go to work.

''Sara, as a strong believer in Karma, I strongly believe that one day, you're going to accidently click on a link, or own Manga that can be taken as pedophilia even in the slightest sense, and you're going to be sent to prison for it after they search all your posts and think that your morality speeches are just scams to secretly ship children around, you'll see just how ''right'' these opinions are, and you'll have no choice but to high five the FBI as they raid your house''.

Then again, since I'm assuming you're a girl, they'll most definitely treat you differently.

Also, on the butt shaking subject, in plays when I was a kid we had all kinds of dance that involved such things. There used to be a dance we'd do called ''I don't want to be a chicken, I don' wanna be a duck, all I wanna do is shake my butt butt butt''.
We all participated, because it was funny, now that I'm grown up. Adults have to avert their gaze because they're scared of it being ''too sexual'', what are you kidding me?

http://tubedubber.com/#Zm1de4VFJg4:NkRyW...:35:0:true

I think you guys might like this. Drama be damned, I want to lighten the mood in this thread.

And i am now caught up to the thread...

what to the f'uck happened here.

No muscle, that was in no way an improvement.

Not even a little smirk?

Not even a little smirk?

no. the levels of what the f'uck are far too compound at the moment. if that were like the 3rd post i would've found it funny. or you know, somewhere before the last 2ish pages.

''Sara, as a strong believer in Karma, I strongly believe that one day, you're going to accidently click on a link, or own Manga that can be taken as pedophilia even in the slightest sense, and you're going to be sent to prison for it after they search all your posts and think that your morality speeches are just scams to secretly ship children around, you'll see just how ''right'' these opinions are, and you'll have no choice but to high five the FBI as they raid your house''.

Do you even know what karma is?

Oh, just noticed you're sixteen. Loooool. Okay.

I lol'd at that vid. Screw serious business.

Anyway. Posting in the most (potentially) explosive SP thread I have ever read.

Better plan: bleach the eyeballs of all men. Problem solved.

Better plan: Remove all females from the world, problem solved.

Best plan: Just blow up the Earth.

Elf girl is new Archer Hero?

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They could have probably achieved the same result by having one of the Adventurer females being represented instead. Why make entirely new artwork for a promotional video if it's not going to be used in-game? Especially artwork that has nothing resembling anything in-game at the moment.

It would make sense for the Archer Legend to be an elf.

I'm getting tired of people telling me the only thing people are allowed to be attracted in are 30 year old milfs with sagging tits. But the fact that they don't have generous fat on their skin is also a plus.

Mark is gonna be mad.

''Sara, as a strong believer in Karma, I strongly believe that one day, you're going to accidently click on a link, or own Manga that can be taken as pedophilia even in the slightest sense, and you're going to be sent to prison for it after they search all your posts and think that your morality speeches are just scams to secretly ship children around, you'll see just how ''right'' these opinions are, and you'll have no choice but to high five the FBI as they raid your house''.

As if Sarah reads manga.

You all sound like a bunch of children.

Seriously? This is a thread about the video added to KMS in the most recent patch, not about your morals. Go discuss it elsewhere.

As if Sarah reads manga.

Are you implying that the concept of karma came from manga?

If so i am preparing to lol.

hard.

You all sound like a bunch of children.

Seriously? This is a thread about the video added to KMS in the most recent patch, not about your morals. Go discuss it elsewhere.

K! i'll be right over.

great, guests browsing this topic atm. this should give them a solid opinion of the site. Is it possible to wipe pages? or relocate them?

Actual children aside, my argument is strictly towards anime lolis.

And, possibly since I'm still near the age of 16, I find it hard to to believe that there is a difference between a 16 year old and an 18 year old. Besides the fact that they become ''legal to pineapple''. That's just stupid.

There are many emotional and mental differences between a 16 year old and an 18 year old. At 18 you're supposedly developed enough that you should be aware of the decisions you're making and things like the difference between right and wrong. Adults who get off to 16 year olds do so in part because they are still mentally vulnerable. But this maturity differs from person to person and in reality, most adults aren't fully matured until around 27.

My argument is that people are taking it too far, and this is actually affecting innocent people, you can find an article on the internet called ''The Crime of Reading Manga'', where you can read how someone was arrested for watching Gao Gai Gar, because it had the slogan ''This is for those who haven't grown up yet, we know who you are, and you know to!'', which was seen as code words for pedophilia.

I don't think anyone should be arrested for reading manga. I think that sort of content shouldn't be produced in the first place though. It says more about the creators than it does the readers, though there are those who read such mangas solely because of the loli element.

The argument of ''Victimless Crime'' shouldn't apply, while it is true that some people see this as an outlet for actual children, some people see it as a means to continue their urges on with the real thing. This becomes a stale-mate, no matter what you do, some child is going to be molested, it's what happens in life, blocking any and all ''inappropriate'' images are not going to help this at all.

Societal conditioning is in place to recognize that this sort of thing is wrong and to keep people from acting on such urges. It may never stop all of such actions but if even one person is able to hold themselves back for fear of the consequences than it is a success.

Tell me where there is immorality in stuff such as Loli, all I hear is ''WOMEN UNDER 18 ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPOSE THEIR BODIES, BECAUSE THE EVIL PERVERTED MEN WILL RAPE CHILDREN AFTER SEEING CARTOON IMAGES OF THEM!''
Who does this save? Who is this helping? This is just for the mental masturbation of self-righteous and morally obsessed people.

When you legitimize anything like this it creates a slippery slope for anyone to be able to do what they want. You shrug at someone having sex with a 16 year old and then they or someone else may go after a 14 year old and go BUT CRONNO GOT AWAY WITH IT THIS ISN'T THAT MUCH YOUNGER. There's very little fear of someone going from jerking off to 16 year olds to being attracted to children, in any case. But it's still inappropriate for grown adults to be lusting after developing teens for the reasons I mentioned in the first pargraph.

And while this may seem like a Taboo subject, this has to be addressed sooner or later, I'm getting tired of people telling me the only thing people are allowed to be attracted in are 30 year old milfs with sagging tits. Real children, the thought is disgusting as hell, but in Anime, there are more reasons to be attracted to Loli's other than the fact that they ''look young''. Most Anime's have overbreasted characters, and that's about all they do to them. ''GIVE THEM BIG BREASTS, NEXT''. These usually exceed the size of a human head, it's just disgusting. They usually put more time into artistically drawing loli's, because they can't just draw oversized boobs on them, it's not PURELY for the fact that they look young. But the fact that they don't have generous fat on their skin is also a plus.

This is a pretty disgusting sentiment and you have a lot of growing up to do. REAL PEOPLE MAY HAVE BODY FAT OR SKIN ISSUES. Besides what you've said being incredibly offensive to women, this sort of thinking leads to the sort of mental conditioning that creates sexual offenders.

Before anyone gives me an Ad Hominem attack, no, I am not a pedophile, the thought of touching little children disgusts me to no end. And while I really don't care about some 16 year old girls buisiness, I think it's fine if they go off having sex, it's their life to screw up, not yours. I hope you know that MANY 16 year old girls would lose really good boyfriends if your logic was to be considered accurate. Also, I don't believe in Karma, but let me say this before I go to work

I have no issue with 16 year olds having sex with 16 year olds. That's a completely different topic. Neither of them are developed enough to know any better.

Also, on the butt shaking subject, in plays when I was a kid we had all kinds of dance that involved such things. There used to be a dance we'd do called ''I don't want to be a chicken, I don' wanna be a duck, all I wanna do is shake my butt butt butt''.
We all participated, because it was funny, now that I'm grown up. Adults have to avert their gaze because they're scared of it being ''too sexual'', what are you kidding me?

This is ridiculous. That is NOT what was being portrayed in this video. Someone else said something similar earlier in the topic and I couldn't help but cringe because it seems like the sort of awful justification someone trying to get away with something would give.

It would make sense for the Archer Legend to be an elf.

I always thought that Albatross (the Wind Archer transformation) was the archer hero/heroine. You mean there's another one?

So could this count as conclusive evidence that Aran is canonically female?

Not at all. They just used her because she was a female. Aran could never be canonically female since females are weak and helpless and would never stand up to the Black Magician like Aran did. Also, the first artwork of Aran shows him as a male.

Are you implying that the concept of karma came from manga?

Where and just how would you get that from what I said?

great, guests browsing this topic atm. this should give them a solid opinion of the site. Is it possible to wipe pages? or relocate them?

It actually gives them the correct and perfect opinion about the site.

I always thought that Albatross (the Wind Archer transformation) was the archer hero/heroine. You mean there's another one?

Um, not sure what you're talking about. But I think we were talking about the Archer Legend, like Aran and Evan. They still haven't released a Archer, Thief (Dual Blader might count, kind of, not really.) and Pirate Legends.

This is what happens when you get a bunch of opinionated adults together on a forum about a game marketed for 13-17 year old people.