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WillDaSnail Wrote:So.......L> the so-called Rune-less Rammus jungling strategy. 
I wonder if Nunu is also an OK jungler (His Consume does a shetload against creeps), though I'm somewhat doubtful about his ganking capabilities. :\
nunu is amazing, with red and ice ball, he is almost as effective as rammus with taunt. although i had some trouble figuring out starting item/rune/mastery combos that worked. What runes exactly do you have now? are you able to log onto league and do a practice game now?
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Birdie Wrote:nunu is amazing, with red and ice ball, he is almost as effective as rammus with taunt. although i had some trouble figuring out starting item/rune/mastery combos that worked. What runes exactly do you have now? are you able to log onto league and do a practice game now?
Atm, I'm at level 20, and I'm waiting 1 more level so I can start purchasing Tier 3 Runes. And I'm about 8.5K IP short from completing my full tank Rune page.
I cannot log onto LoL atm.
For starting items, I think you can start out with the typical Cloth Armor and x5 HP pots. For Rune/Mastery comboes, that depends. If you play him somewhat tanky (though his AP scaling is nuts - as you probably know - and hence Nunu is best played as a caster), use Defense Masteries and use tank Runes; I would say that is best option since you might need a bit of resiliency dealing with jungle creeps early on.
And from you said.....I'm guessing for ganking, you're thinking:
- Use W (speed up movement speed/attack speed)
- Use (E) Ice Ball to slow down target
- (If Ult is available, pop it)
- ???
- Profit!
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Atm, I'm at level 20, and I'm waiting 1 more level so I can start purchasing Tier 3 Runes.
I cannot log onto LoL atm.
For starting items, I think you can start out with the typical Cloth Armor and x5 HP pots. For Rune/Mastery comboes, that depends. If you play him somewhat tanky (though his AP scaling is nuts - as you probably know - and hence Nunu is best played as a caster), use Defense Masteries and use tank Runes. You could do that since you might need a bit of resiliency dealing with jungle creeps early on.
And from you said.....I'm guessing for ganking, you're thinking:
- Use W (speed up movement speed/attack speed)
- Use (E) Ice Ball to slow down target
- (If Ult is available, pop it)
- ???
- Profit!
I actually hate playing nunu as anything but tank, only ap items i would get on a regular basis would be rod of ages or abyssal scepter. I havent played nunu since doran's item change, but im almost positive i would start ring and 1 health pot. Go 0/21/9 masteries and use magic pen, mana regen, cd reduction with health quints.
As far as rammus, if you havent tried a practice game yet, do that, but try 0/21/9. try starting at blue buff with cloth and health pots. if this doesnt work, you can try starting wolves>wraiths>mini golem>blue pill then do blue and clear left to right saving red for last. Or try mini golem>wraiths>wolves>blue bill>blue buff. I dunno, might need to pick up some runes to get rammus safely in the jungle.
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Rammus jungle guide:
Use DBC on golem and smite it when it's low enough, pop a health pot when you fight it and you have to have bought a cloth armor ofcourse.
Kill golem, spam DBC when you fight stuff.
Done, just keep doing that o.o
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Unleashing Wrote:Rammus jungle guide:
Use DBC on golem and smite it when it's low enough, pop a health pot when you fight it and you have to have bought a cloth armor ofcourse.
Kill golem, spam DBC when you fight stuff.
Done, just keep doing that o.o
Video pls.
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Played more corki tonight and had a blast. Went 9/0/7 or something first game and 6/3/11 i think the second. First game I was soloing top vs a teemo and panth. Holy pomegranate it sucked until i hit lvl 6. Managed to still get a pretty decent farm, helped that they went off to try and gank a lot, so i was 1v1 with someone a couple levels lower. Second game i was duo laning with my friend who was playing yi. It went really really bad. We were against a sion and gangplank, he started out 0/4, i was 1/3. Luckly my roommate was playing Kass and was doing well bottom lane. It took a bit longer, but once i got some farm and picked up cleaver the second game went well.
I know a couple people were talking about corki builds, I went:
Manamune>serkers> sheen> cleaver first game. I really like cleaver early on corki, being able to put almost any target below 0 armor is huge, make baron go very quickly and any champion without bonus armor items is pineappleed.
Second game i got merc treads>cleaver> banshees> sheen> phage. Game ended while i was buying phage, and i still have yet to complete trinity force so i cant really compare rushing trinity compared to cleaver. Well i guess it wouldnt be rushing at that point, but i think you get what i mean? maybe lol.
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Manamune is a great item because it not only builds the mana pool up from spells/skills but also from auto attacks.
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New video is up. Spiegelmann's "#1 Udyr" is featured in it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjoEBTGLDCc
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The new and improved AI live stream is going on now!
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Two actual Corki games down, a very entertaining champ. First game was a horrible, crushing defeat so I'll take my 5-5-3 happily. Second game was a much better 5-0-5 crushing victory with some help from our sweet Udyr.
Definitely like my Manamune, a little iffy about starting item. Probably just keep getting Doran's. Wish one of those matches went long enough to get a taste of the trinity force. Got shoes/manamune/sheen one game and shoes/manamune/cleaver the other.
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Riot vs new and improved AI bots results:
Duration: 55 minutes
Notes:
- Bots very aggressive
- Can gank/chase. Though the ganking needs to be worked on a bit IMO. They just come out, but don't use any CC skills on sight that we players use when we gank a target.
- Can push (and they do so in force)
- Bots start teamfights at level 6-7; very early compared to us when we start initiating teamfights (usually level 9+)
- Can use various items (Chogath on Sunfire/Guardian Ange. Banshee Veil, Rabadon's Deathcap on Nunu. Infinity Edge on MF)
- Team backdoor (happened once)
- Nunu, Cho'Gath, and even Soraka (heal support) was tanking the whole thing. >_>
- Bots were pushing their base as early as in the 30 minute mark. At one point, the Riot team had both Nexus turrets down on the Bots side, but bots respawned, and were forced to pull back
- All inhibitors down about the 50 minute mark. Of course, had the Riot team defended, they could have had a chance, but the bots were causing a distraction by pushing them hard....and letting the minions kill the turrets and inhibitors in the process
- I'm surprised the Riot guys didn't set the bots to go after Baron during late-game. Now that would add another deadly element to the gameplay.
All I can say is....this is extremely interesting. This could be a nice practice tool for those that need to test stuff realistically.
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Gotta agree that it was pretty impressive. It'd be nice if they eventually allow some customization to the bot's ai. Like setting how aggressive, or what type of builds, or even just give them a specific priority i.e. backdoors/ganks/support, so you can get more experience playing against different playstyles. Of course it probably won't end up helping as much as playing against human opponents, but it would allow you to try things out fairly realistically.
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KajitiSouls Wrote:New video is up. Spiegelmann's "#1 Udyr" is featured in it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjoEBTGLDCc
Skinless udyr
ewww ._.
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Skinless udyr
ewww ._.
Who's problem is that? >_>
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Skinless udyr
ewww ._.
Well you asked for it.
Anyways, I tested Jungle Nunu just now. I have to say its very nice; Consume + Smite at level 1 brings the Blue Buff Golem down to a bit past half of its HP.
Is this an OK jungle build?
Cloth Armor > x5 HP pots > RoA > Boots > Randouins (upgrade from Cloth Armor) > Merc Treads (upgrade from Boots) > Rabadon's Deathcap > Rylai Crystal Scepter (or Lich Bane, or another high AP-yielding item?) > FoN or Banshee Veil (if necessary)
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Who's problem is that? >_>
b> recent-er game
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Well you asked for it. 
Anyways, I tested Jungle Nunu just now. I have to say its very nice; Consume + Smite at level 1 brings the Blue Buff Golem down to a bit past half of its HP.
Is this an OK jungle build?
Cloth Armor > x5 HP pots > RoA > Boots > Randouins (upgrade from Cloth Armor) > Merc Treads (upgrade from Boots) > Rabadon's Deathcap > Rylai Crystal Scepter (or Lich Bane, or another high AP-yielding item?) > FoN or Banshee Veil (if necessary)
Might wanna upgrade cloth to HoG asap, then boots 2nd. The rest of your build looks fine. Don't forget about abyssal scepter. Very good for both offense and defense.
Don't forget to take the enemy jungler's buffs whenever possible. Just be careful while doing it. Nunu is probably the best/ 2nd best counter jungler in the game
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Might wanna upgrade cloth to HoG asap, then boots 2nd. The rest of your build looks fine. Don't forget about abyssal scepter. Very good for both offense and defense.
Don't forget to take the enemy jungler's buffs whenever possible. Just be careful while doing it. Nunu is probably the best/ 2nd best counter jungler in the game
Well if I get HoG, I will eventually upgrade to Randouins anyways. The only perk is more def and HP while I'm at it.
And seriously he can counter-jungle like a pro? :f6:
Edited build:
Cloth Armor > x5 HP pots > Boots > RoA > Randouins (upgrade from Cloth Armor) > Merc Treads (upgrade from Boots) > Rabadon's Deathcap > Abyssal Scepter > FoN or Banshee Veil (if needed. If necessary, use Rylai Crystal Scepter).
And for warding...if I put some $ into it, it will save my ass by exposing those who go for me? :f6:
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