Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread

out of the 26 champions i don't own, 16 are ones that came out since i started playing this game. I first started the same week Renekton came out.

You don't own Wukong? I HOPE YOU GONNA REMEDY THIS

Also you own more champs than me. ;=;

What makes wukong fun?

What makes wukong fun?

Push E
Push Q
Push W

spam Shift + 4

What makes wukong fun?

It's mainly the decoy mindgames that give me satisfaction while playing him. His R can also feel great just like hitting an Amumu ultimate on all 5 enemies perfectly.

Another runepage! Hue hue hue.

Anyway i haer Miss fortune its the new op or some pomegranate like that or you could get ziggs, fun as hell champ

L> Josh to explain why she is OP.

But all I know is that she's starting to be a nice AD carry to use, though people are starting to realize it now.....(also, Double Up harass OP if done right)

mf is ~op~ because early game is where your potential to snowball is greatest and she has a strong early game

at least thats what i heard.

L> Josh to explain why she is OP.

I'ma take a stab at this, even though I have yet to truly feel the OPness of MF.

mf is ~op~ because early game is where your potential to snowball is greatest and she has a strong early game

Eddikins is correct in that MF has a decent early game. She goes OOM really fast if you spam, so it's not wise to do that. However, she has a moderate steroid from W if she needs to commit (up to 50% AS and healing debuff and minimal magic damage). MF also has a psuedo-auto-attack Double Up, which aids in last-hitting and has the benefit of some harass. MF's passive grants her the equivalent MS bonus of boots 2, so she can be a bit difficult to pin down with skill shots, although if you're relying on auto-attacks to harass her, the passive might not really help much xD Unfortunately, MF's attack range is the standard 550.

In terms of team fight contribution, MF's ultimate has quite a long range. I imagine that, ideally, MF would open up with her ultimate when a team fight breaks out, and her passive allows her to quickly commit to auto-attacking when it is time for her to jump in and lay down the hurt. There was a patch a while back (Ahri Patch Notes) where MF's ultimate damage got jacked up really high. Final damage value went from 110 to 125 per shot. Dedicated MF players can already land good ultimates. Imagine the horror now. In the span of two seconds at rank 3 R, she can potentially do 1000 damage + 3.6/bonus AD + 1.6/AP per target.

In terms of skirmishes, MF's rain skill grants her vision to wherever she casts it (iirc), so it's fine for rounding corners or entering bushes in the jungle. It also slows, giving you time to chug out your W damage.

For some odd reason, most of MF's abilities scale with AP, and since it is likely that her team has someone with WotA, bonus damage. Also, many of her skills do magic damage, and since MF is primarily an auto-attack champ, her damage can be considered hybrid. Hybrid champions tend to hurt more, no matter which way you spec, though that's not to say it's futile to try to get defenses against them. In the long run however she does mostly physical damage versus beefy champions.


Personally, I think she's okay early game. Not as weak as Kog'Maw or as strong as Vayne in a kill lane (dat Condemn). Her late game has crazy potential however, given good team coordination and protection.

All you need to know is:
MF + Wriggles + Phantom Dancer = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Also Kaji too good @ the explanations!

After reading Kaj's post (and he clarified a lot of points very well; thanks!) I'll give my bit of insight about the possibilities why MF is OP.

As Kaj said, she has (roughly) the standard range for a squishy AD carry: 550. And has a strong early game. From watching streams where pros were using MF as their standard AD carry for bot lane, I frequently noticed them bouncing their Q off the right minion to hit the enemy champion.

Now think about this: When used right, her Double Up gives her something along the lines of psuedo-long range advantage for harass. While its not exactly free harass, it allows you to hit twice. This means that even if you're not within range where she's able to actively harass you with her AA - and you're positioned close to where she wants to bounce Double Up off of - she is able to get off damage on you without having to risk taking too much damage. And with the current meta being stale at the bottom lane (currently AD carry + support), any strong form of pseudo-long range advantage as a method to harass others is what makes her pretty strong.

Woo, patch notes.

yay Ziggs bot.

inb4 Shen solo top lane!

He's FREAKING RIDICULOUS!!!!!

Also, yayyyyyyyyyy

The disconnect notification will now only be shown to enemy players if a player disconnects and remains disconnected for 5 minutes. The message will continue to be shown without a delay for allied players.

Also, yayyyyyyyyyy

PVP.net will now wait for 8 seconds after a queue dodge before requeuing

[video=youtube;P3ALwKeSEYs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs[/video]

Also on the note of Baron critting at random (and perhaps having a huge impact on taking Baron):

Baron Nashor can no longer critically strike, but his base damage has been increased 10% to compensate

Also yay for this:

Updated Baron Nashor's character stats so that his attack damage reflects how much damage he actually deals

Patch note reactions:

- Aw Riot's starting to see Cassiopeia as strong.
- GP's Parrley mana cost increased and reduced effective range on his Raise Morale. I can see why Parrley needed a mana cost increase (harassment), but I wonder why the range nerf on Raise Morale....?
- Well there goes frequent (free) harass for Kennen's Q.
- Those massive Shen buffs........brb changing my pants.
- WW buffs...not sure how effective it'll be in making him a viable jungler again. Looks pretty nice from the surface, though

WW and shen buffs are pro. Will buy both. Perhaps even hyena ww if I like him enough.

Spotlight!

I see what you did there, Riot.

[video=youtube;IyOeyjwZT28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyOeyjwZT28[/video]

More interested in jungle Shen, personally. Thinking of using something like boots, Wit's End, Zeke's, possibly Ionic Spark (stats sound good on paper, not sure if it's a good item overall after seeing it used once on Phoenix Udyr), Frozen Mallet, Atma's? I dunno. He can get Zeke's instead of Wriggle's, this much I'm fairly sure of.

Oh man, GP and Ziggs are free this week. Time to do some first time fails!

Started playing LoL. I enjoy this game much more than I ever did DotA in WC3.

Bought the Big Daddy. Down to 35,672 IP.

Bought the Big Daddy. Down to 35,672 IP.

What's he like? o(^▽^)o