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Rick Wrote:There comes a point where acting like this just becomes irrational and annoying. You drive, Sarah. Do you enjoy the member of Greenpeace standing on the street corner telling you your car is destroying the Earth? You eat meat. Do you enjoy PETA telling you you're a murderer? Or do you wish they would just let you carry on with your day?
In this situation, you are Greenpeace. You are PETA. What you do is considered wrong by them, but you continue driving your car with that chicken wing in your hand because you've gotta do what you've gotta do. So do the people that want to make it in this game. You can continue to sit there on your high horse and feel all Mother Superior over a collection of pixels, but let these people live their lives how they wish.
The difference is that I never agreed to a ToS in life that said I am not allowed to eat meat or drive. One situation contains morals and values by which you live by, the other is whether or not to abuse an exploit in a game, no matter how beneficial it may be to you. You are still breaking the ToS by using it and thus, you are in the wrong. I find it silly that you are trying to compare this situation to PETA or Greenpeace to try and justify your wishful thinking.
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Kalovale Wrote:Let me try this again.
Shall I spell it out for you? I was not addressing the OP.
Shall i spell it out for you? Multiple people in the thread could not tell that, the op included. In fact you commented on the op reacting as if guilty yourself. Kalovale Wrote:Ironically, I had no intentions whatsoever to call him out. It's funny how defensive he got. You failed to note that Shinku also became defensive after your "warning." While i'm (and was) pretty sure you were mainly addressing PirateIzzy ane Chocl. Some of those in the thread clearly could not tell as seen by their reactions. You literally commented on it with one of those people, the OP, and now are trying to defend how crystal clear it was that your warning was not at all threatening and who was addressing was obvious? Haha. Address people directly with warnings or it seems like an open threat. You're penchant for repeating yourself just makes me have to repeat myself. It doesn't like magically change what actually happened in the thread. Blame my comprehension if you wish, but guaging by the reactions to your statements no one actively posting in the the thread caught your intent "properly" or as you say it was (i. e Shinku, Lyrics(was that the OP? i'm relying on my bad comprehension and memory here.).
Sarah Wrote:What the pineapple is wrong with Southperry these days? I just read the first few comments and am pretty disgusted by people who think this is okay. Especially justifications like "I just want..."
I JUST WANT TO GET TO 200 THEN I'LL STOP
I JUST WANT A 3000 ATK WEAPON
Stop pineappleing abusing exploits. Jesus christ people
Yeah i'm kind of like rick these days. I don't play that way myself because i have a strong understanding of what i play the game for. But i don't see any point in soapboxing about it anymore either. The mood of the community as a larger part has changed. Exploiters gunna exploit. The longer it stays true the more acceptable to the community as a whole it becomes. I'll play how i play. The community as a whole has no effect on that, even if at one point the community mostly did at one point play how i play.
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whoops, double post.
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Satellite Wrote:I can see where you come from and I agree with you, but VIP weapons will not be as good as they used to be, due to no more 120+ pot and 130-140 weapons. Unless this exploit gets out of hand, nexon does nothing and we'll start seeing VIP weapons for 1mil each...
This is a stupid argument. I own the largest supply of VIP weapons in bellocan for the past 6+ months and everyday I get the following comment (among other ones)
"You noob, you should sell these fast, 130/140 weapons are going to make your VIPs worthless"
A vip weapon is much better than a 130/140 weapon due to being statless + free trading around. And just because the 140 weapon is there, does that mean everyone will get it? Do people not realize it comes from empress meaning it's pretty much impossible? This is just like PB and mw30/timeless. Just because it drops it, people were saying EVERYONE was going to have mw30 and be wielding timeless gear instead of reverse. Pretty sure that's not the case because most people can't even get their hands on it and how long has PB been out?
I personally don't like this exploit since it stems directly from hacked means and "it's sort of exclusive and not available to everyone". But at the same time, there's a question of morals and whatnot and I'm way past the point where I care if people do things or not. Everyone has their opinions but trying to change someone's to yours, even if you're right takes way too much work and in the end, it's just not worth it.
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3rd tier statless weapons from a pq most still can't do?
How gamebreaking.
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Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:This is a stupid argument.
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Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:it's just not worth it.
An exploit is an exploit is an exploit. Abuse it, and you better not cry when one day you can't log on to your account anymore.
It doesn't matter how long the game has been broken to where you just "get used to it," or whatever pomegranate was said. Have some integrity.
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Panacea Wrote:and
An exploit is an exploit is an exploit. Abuse it, and you better not cry when one day you can't log on to your account anymore.
It doesn't matter how long the game has been broken to where you just "get used to it," or whatever pomegranate was said. Have some integrity.
One person can think this and think there is no reason to soapbox at the same time.
Just putting that out there.
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Wow people in southperry likes to fight for stupid things, Well lets stated something you as a player can't do nothing to improve the game (except for being a nice social player, help others, etc, case that almost never happens unless you are a old player or something like that), the only ones that can improve/fix the game, are the ones who control it (aka nexon), you don't stop of using cars becuase in the actual style of living it is a must, so you keep destroying the planet but the only thing you can do is stop using it (little to no change), in the other hand the people who makes cars (or governments) are capable of improving them or changing energy sources etc (big change), but still the change isn't as simple as that because people isn't going to buy a new car because the one they have right now do its job pretty well. The same thing is happening in this game you have three options (1 do it, 2 don't do it and nothin more, 3 don't do it and change the root of the problem), you can't do the third option becase you are a player and is very stupid to have a riot becuase of a game, nexon is the only one who can make a real change by closing the game for a week and clearing the exploited items, improving the game, etc. And about the other options you'll mostly have to do it because the game is too much broken right now, and nexon keeps doing nothing, so people to be on par with others will exploit it (and this isn't a big exploit after all because anyone can do it, just not lead the party).
The only people who have right to complain about it, are the ones who buy nx becuase they are the ones who lose money not nexon because ironically when nexon need money they just realesed a content very broken that needs nx just like gachapon, cubes, pams and others, they never fix the game.
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Chicocl Wrote:Wow people in southperry likes to fight for stupid things, Well lets stated something you as a player can't do nothing to improve the game (except for being a nice social player, help others, etc, case that almost never happens unless you are a old player or something like that), the only ones that can improve/fix the game, are the ones who control it (aka nexon), you don't stop of using cars becuase in the actual style of living it is a must, so you keep destroying the planet but the only thing you can do is stop using it (little to no change), in the other hand the people who makes cars (or governments) are capable of improving them or changing energy sources etc (big change), but still the change isn't as simple as that because people isn't going to buy a new car because the one they have right now do its job pretty well. The same thing is happening in this game you have three options (1 do it, 2 don't do it and nothin more, 3 don't do it and change the root of the problem), you can't do the third option becase you are a player and is very stupid to have a riot becuase of a game, nexon is the only one who can make a real change by closing the game for a week and clearing the exploited items, improving the game, etc. And about the other options you'll mostly have to do it because the game is too much broken right now, and nexon keeps doing nothing, so people to be on par with others will exploit it (and this isn't a big exploit after all because anyone can do it, just not lead the party).
The only people who have right to complain about it, are the ones who buy nx becuase they are the ones who lose money not nexon because ironically when nexon need money they just realesed a content very broken that needs nx just like gachapon, cubes, pams and others, they never fix the game.
You realize you are essentially saying moderation can't exists just because extremes are possible right?
That's a pretty heavy crackpot theory.
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octopusprime Wrote:You realize you are essentially saying moderation can't exists just because extremes are possible right?
That's a pretty heavy crackpot theory.
moderation can't exist in a situation like this becuase the game is still very broken , you are only making this lesser worse but still the problem exists
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Lol @ public wrist-slapping and whining going on. This won't get out of hand since only like 1/20 people who try to lead can even do it. Just cycled through 3 parties and no one could do it.
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i still have all my bing stuff in my etc, does that mean i could lead?
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LOL @ everyone opposed to this.
this only negatively effects a TINY group of players who happened to be able to do the PQ before and hoarded the weapons.
besides, with all the exploits going around constantly and nexon not doing anything, WHO CARES?!
you can sit with a rash and sand in your ass or join the party, take advantage of whatever you want and get as far as possible. I am sick of doing everything the hard way, I remember everytime there was an exploit I thought, hmm better not do that I might get banned and then grred when no one got banned for it. so many times has this happened.
been playing for years and only last night did I get to 13x for the first time since broa was released.
get off your high horses. 1. it's just a game, 2.I doubt in real life you do everything perfectly and follow every law. how many of you have pirated software on your pc?... exactly
I personally follow the laws that I think are right and ignore the rest. works fine so far
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EndlessAxis Wrote:LOL @ everyone opposed to this.
this only negatively effects a TINY group of players who happened to be able to do the PQ before and hoarded the weapons.
besides, with all the exploits going around constantly and nexon not doing anything, WHO CARES?!
you can sit with a rash and sand in your ass or join the party, take advantage of whatever you want and get as far as possible. I am sick of doing everything the hard way, I remember everytime there was an exploit I thought, hmm better not do that I might get banned and then grred when no one got banned for it. so many times has this happened.
been playing for years and only last night did I get to 13x for the first time since broa was released.
get off your high horses. 1. it's just a game, 2.I doubt in real life you do everything perfectly and follow every law. how many of you have pirated software on your pc?... exactly
I personally follow the laws that I think are right and ignore the rest. works fine so far
I second you, this is exactly what i think.
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I didn't know having integrity equated to sitting on a high horse.
Sick of doing everything the hard way? That's life, unless you're so blessed that everything is handed to you on a silver platter.
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EndlessAxis Wrote:LOL @ everyone opposed to this.
this only negatively effects a TINY group of players who happened to be able to do the PQ before and hoarded the weapons.
besides, with all the exploits going around constantly and nexon not doing anything, WHO CARES?!
you can sit with a rash and sand in your ass or join the party, take advantage of whatever you want and get as far as possible. I am sick of doing everything the hard way, I remember everytime there was an exploit I thought, hmm better not do that I might get banned and then grred when no one got banned for it. so many times has this happened.
been playing for years and only last night did I get to 13x for the first time since broa was released.
get off your high horses. 1. it's just a game, 2.I doubt in real life you do everything perfectly and follow every law. how many of you have pirated software on your pc?... exactly
I personally follow the laws that I think are right and ignore the rest. works fine so far
fun fact is: half of the people that is saying its wrong "abuse the exploit" bought or sold NX in their maple life, and that is against the ToS too. lol.
or maybe they are mad because they tried to do a vpq and couldn't get in while others can so they need to be like: wtp if i cant get my VIP weapon no one can so its wrong all you are making the game worst. first thing, how the server accept you to get into an inaccessible place? nexon flaw.
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CrazyNomad Wrote:fun fact is: half of the people that is saying its wrong "abuse the exploit" bought or sold NX in their maple life, and that is against the ToS too. lol.
I don't see the connection here.
An exploit is an unintentional glitch in the game, whereas selling/buying NX is no where near the same. I'd much rather spend mesos than real cash.
In response to your edit, Maikon: Even if I was able to tele into VPQ, and lead it, I wouldn't do it.
Nice assumption there, kiddo.
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Panacea Wrote:I don't see the connection here.
An exploit is an unintentional glitch in the game, whereas selling/buying NX is no where near the same. I'd much rather spend mesos than real cash.
Every mapler breaks the ToS one way or another. That's probably his point.
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Locked Wrote:Every mapler breaks the ToS one way or another. That's probably his point.
The result is the same, but the situations are entirely different.
Apples to oranges.
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Locked Wrote:Every mapler breaks the ToS one way or another. That's probably his point.
Oh thanks, you got what i meant, and kevin, i said half of people here, not everyone, if you got offended by that, oh well
holding HT cave is against ToS too, people are too prick nowadays over a broken game.
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Well, you have to pick between accusing people for not adhering to the ToS verbatim and telling people they don't have integrity. Because obviously the former can't define the latter.
Integrity, and a mature moral viewpoint in general, isn't following society's laws to the letter, it's rationally thinking about and either respecting or rejecting the basis for those laws. Half of Nexon's are outright retarded, and it's not fair to attack my or anyone else's integrity because they think or behave accordingly.
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