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DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED
#81
Lmao I was talking about you, how delusional are you?

I don't care about American politics other than the quality memes and how entertaining Trump's campaign has been. Don't care who wins, don't care who loses. If anything I hope there wasn't so much pomegranate about your nonsense every fucking where. Can't reddit, can't watch videogame podcasts, even my Facebook friends, who are Colombian just like me, keep spamming me with Bernie's cult or Trump hate. pineapple you all.

PS. I'm still up for memes though.
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#82
I've been following politics for years, and this election season I chose to sit out the tooth-drilling-like experience of watching the pols stoke our hatred for each other so they can benefit. I saw the whole thing on day one, and it's depressing watching it further.

Trump is running on exactly one tangible issue: the left's grievous overuse of political correctness, and its resultant honing of minority victimization into a knife to stab any and all Republicans with should they disagree with the dems in the slightest.

Recent political methodology from the left focuses on defining a very large number of terms such as "racist," "classist," "sexist," "ageist," "xenophobe," "Islamaphabe," etc. Any time a Republican disagrees with one of these groups, or dislikes something they do, in public, he or she is immediately smeared as a bigot in public, which seeks to shame and bully him or her into silence. It really seems to me that the whole liberal wing has created a methology by which each of its voting blocs is some sort of oppressed minority, and speaking out against them, you get the left making some connection, no matter how tenuous, with "racism," "sexism," etc., and the Republican is a bigot and is afraid of losing his job or other effects of being publicly smeared as a bigot. This stuff has escalated recently to the point where the liberals want a "safe space" on campus, where their precious tender feelings cannot be bruised by evil opposing opinions, and the bastion of free inquiry and learning is being reshaped into a place where it is illegal to hurt liberals' feelings. University presidents are being tar-and-feathered out of their positions because some people in the 6000 or something student body said racist things, and the university president is somehow responsible for that or somehow can make that stop.

The constituents of the GOP feel bullied, silenced, and intimidated by political correctness, with "don't hurt my feelings" having become a pineappleing knife.

That, and only that, is the real reason Trump has an audience. That alone. If it wasn't for the left doing this, Trump would be a joke and nobody would listen to him. He HAS entered GOP politics before, and he WAS a joke, but what I am talking about was not around then. Because it is there now, his megalomaniac radicalism has taken root.

The liberals trash us GOP for taking this guy, but I am telling you, most of us GOP don't want him running for us any more than you do. I don't want this guy. I don't want to vote for him. But so many in my party feel like cornered animals whose right to speak has been taken away that he IS here and we all DO have to deal with him.

I am going to be honest, he probably will not win. He is like Joe McCarthy, he's taken a legitimate problem in American society and turned into a pineappleing witch hunt. But you lefties better take note of what I am saying: the root cause of Trump is the left itself, and if he doesn't win and you guys keep on that pomegranate, we will have people like him reappearing until one DOES win. And your pleas for tolerance and moderation will fall on deaf ears because you never gave any to US. Your "kindness" and "tolerance" doesn't extend to the right wing, and you are "kind and tolerant" to each other while smearing us with pomegranate all the time. If you respect "differing opinions" try respecting OURS. And if you don't? If it's not Trump it'll be Trump Jr. And you'll be pineappleed.
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#83
Silvarien Wrote:I've been following politics for years, and this election season I chose to sit out the tooth-drilling-like experience of watching the pols stoke our hatred for each other so they can benefit. I saw the whole thing on day one, and it's depressing watching it further.

Trump is running on exactly one tangible issue: the left's grievous overuse of political correctness, and its resultant honing of minority victimization into a knife to stab any and all Republicans with should they disagree with the dems in the slightest.

Recent political methodology from the left focuses on defining a very large number of terms such as "racist," "classist," "sexist," "ageist," "xenophobe," "Islamaphabe," etc. Any time a Republican disagrees with one of these groups, or dislikes something they do, in public, he or she is immediately smeared as a bigot in public, which seeks to shame and bully him or her into silence. It really seems to me that the whole liberal wing has created a methology by which each of its voting blocs is some sort of oppressed minority, and speaking out against them, you get the left making some connection, no matter how tenuous, with "racism," "sexism," etc., and the Republican is a bigot and is afraid of losing his job or other effects of being publicly smeared as a bigot. This stuff has escalated recently to the point where the liberals want a "safe space" on campus, where their precious tender feelings cannot be bruised by evil opposing opinions, and the bastion of free inquiry and learning is being reshaped into a place where it is illegal to hurt liberals' feelings. University presidents are being tar-and-feathered out of their positions because some people in the 6000 or something student body said racist things, and the university president is somehow responsible for that or somehow can make that stop.

The constituents of the GOP feel bullied, silenced, and intimidated by political correctness, with "don't hurt my feelings" having become a pineappleing knife.

That, and only that, is the real reason Trump has an audience. That alone. If it wasn't for the left doing this, Trump would be a joke and nobody would listen to him. He HAS entered GOP politics before, and he WAS a joke, but what I am talking about was not around then. Because it is there now, his megalomaniac radicalism has taken root.

The liberals trash us GOP for taking this guy, but I am telling you, most of us GOP don't want him running for us any more than you do. I don't want this guy. I don't want to vote for him. But so many in my party feel like cornered animals whose right to speak has been taken away that he IS here and we all DO have to deal with him.

I am going to be honest, he probably will not win. He is like Joe McCarthy, he's taken a legitimate problem in American society and turned into a pineappleing witch hunt. But you lefties better take note of what I am saying: the root cause of Trump is the left itself, and if he doesn't win and you guys keep on that pomegranate, we will have people like him reappearing until one DOES win. And your pleas for tolerance and moderation will fall on deaf ears because you never gave any to US. Your "kindness" and "tolerance" doesn't extend to the right wing, and you are "kind and tolerant" to each other while smearing us with pomegranate all the time. If you respect "differing opinions" try respecting OURS. And if you don't? If it's not Trump it'll be Trump Jr. And you'll be pineappleed.

Let's hope and pray that there will be a jeb bush jr for him to troll during the debates Wink

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This just in: Donald Trump confirms that he has a large penis
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#84
MetaSeraphim Wrote:It is sad watching Jon Oliver, he tries really, really hard but he doesn't have the same magic that Jon or Steven had.

It was sad watching Stewart near the end too for me, I thought his show was way better before he started getting more and more political with it. Toward the end I liked Colbert way better because he stuck with "overblown sarcasm in all situations" being his selling point. If I wanted to watch some shitty show about fake pundits talking about politics with very little tongue in cheek, I would watch every other "news" channel. Which I don't, because it's depressing how stupid they are if they believe what they are saying, and it's depressing how scumbag they are if they don't believe what they are saying.
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#85
Pastewrong Wrote:Let's hope and pray that there will be a jeb bush jr for him to troll during the debates Wink

Edit:
This just in: Donald Trump confirms that he has a large penis

Holy God, I thought you were kidding. But you're not. T_T
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#86
Silvarien Wrote:Holy God, I thought you were kidding. But you're not. T_T

Can't stump the Trump
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#87
The quality of GOP debate has gotten to the point where without picture one could mistake it to have taken place in middle school/youtube comment section.

Words Wrote:I don't care about American politics other than the quality memes and how entertaining Trump's campaign has been. Don't care who wins, don't care who loses. If anything I hope there wasn't so much pomegranate about your nonsense every pineappleing where. Can't reddit, can't watch videogame podcasts, even my Facebook friends, who are Colombian just like me, keep spamming me with Bernie's cult or Trump hate. pineapple you all.
I wouldn't care about US politics either if it wasn't for the fact that you can't escape the enormous influence US politics have on WORLD politics.

But what bothers me most is young adults who "don't care about politics" because they're too busy staring at their smartphone screens and playing video games to bother themselves with real world issues. This is why Hillary is winning and heck, may actually lose to Trump.
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#88
Satellite Wrote:But what bothers me most is young adults who "don't care about politics" because they're too busy staring at their smartphone screens and playing video games to bother themselves with real world issues. This is why Hillary is winning and heck, may actually lose to Trump.

Most of my friends/peers who usually don't care about politics are going to vote this year, myself included.



I have trouble understanding politics sometimes. To me, I see a lot of ruckus being made over such minor issues. So much passion is put into (in the grand scheme of things) inconsequential topics. Are your precious little feelings THAT much more important than the millions of lives we'll lose due to global warming? Is ISIS actually a bigger threat than rising sea levels and temperatures? (Hint: no, but it's "scarier" because it's more tangible and short-term). We should be focusing on the ACTUAL issues that will still matter in 100-1000 years - energy, global warming, space exploration.

Should we ignore the small issues? No, that would be disastrous as well. The issue is that a disproportionate amount of effort is being invested in them compared to the real issues.

The main goal is to keep the human species alive. Logically, I don't understand why we (as a species) care about anything else. If I think about it emotianally and irrationally, it makes perfect sense. Nothing is going to change because of human nature, and it might end up being our destruction (although certainly not in our lifetime. Which is another reason why most people don't care).
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#89
Satellite Wrote:But what bothers me most is young adults who "don't care about politics" because they're too busy staring at their smartphone screens and playing video games to bother themselves with real world issues. This is why Hillary is winning and heck, may actually lose to Trump.

Hillary is winning because her opponent is a self-proclaimed socialist. And that's terrifying to every American except, apparently, people who don't know what socialism is.
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#90
xparasite9 Wrote:Hillary is winning because her opponent is a self-proclaimed socialist. And that's terrifying to every American except, apparently, people who don't know what socialism is.
I think you're the one who doesn't understand the difference between social democracy and communism. "Radical things" he's proposing are common sense in countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and here in Finland. Care to tell me again why "socialism" is the most terrifying thing, when last time I checked all 4 countries score above USA in metrics like education, healthcare, corruption, human rights etc.?

Yes, your taxes will be a little higher but I would imagine it's also getting expensive dealing with your homeless people problem, paying for 1% of your population that are in jail and spending way more on military than any country on earth while still failing your wars.
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#91
The military spending absolutely needs to be severely cut or flat out dropped. It is unreal how much we prioritize stupid weapons and fighting pointless wars when back at home we're slowly getting worse and worse. We need universal healthcare, we need better education and schools, we need a whole hell of a lot more than what we have now. We're turning into a country of idiots who care more about what the Kardashians did on television than what our own damn futures have in store.
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#92
Satellite Wrote:I think you're the one who doesn't understand the difference between social democracy and communism. "Radical things" he's proposing are common sense in countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and here in Finland. Care to tell me again why "socialism" is the most terrifying thing, when last time I checked all 4 countries score above USA in metrics like education, healthcare, corruption, human rights etc.?

Sanders isn't a social democrat though. He's called himself a socialist. Are we to not take him at his word?
Good on Sweden and all the other nations (including Canada) for being so successful by playing easy mode (having a much higher density of white people). They don't have the dangerous force of destruction we have here, that is to say Ghetto Culture. I say this from an inside perspective. Being a non-contributive thug is celebrated as a way of getting back at the people who enslaved us. And anyone who dares to try to get off of the dole and make something of oneself is an "Uncle Tom".
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#93
Satellite Wrote:I think you're the one who doesn't understand the difference between social democracy and communism. "Radical things" he's proposing are common sense in countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and here in Finland. Care to tell me again why "socialism" is the most terrifying thing, when last time I checked all 4 countries score above USA in metrics like education, healthcare, corruption, human rights etc.?

Yes, your taxes will be a little higher but I would imagine it's also getting expensive dealing with your homeless people problem, paying for 1% of your population that are in jail and spending way more on military than any country on earth while still failing your wars.

Gary Kasparov, the Russian chess grandmaster said yesterday that Bernie Sanders is what he's been hearing about all his life. He grew up in the USSR and was run out of the country when Putin's thugs beat the pomegranate out of him in an opposition rally. Being Russian myself, I totally agree.

Countries like yours have a ridiculously powerful and broad government, and ridiculously high taxes. You're also forgetting to say that the reason socialism is even remotely feasible in countries like yours is a robust middle class, which has been eroded to near-nothing in the United States and which is a prerequisite for socialism working at all. America not only has a ton of poor, it has the politics of the gutter by which the poor are saluted for sitting on welfare while people who earn a living for hard work are labeled as "privileged" and thereby "oppressors" because they happen to have a good job and have saved up money from working at it. That is not only communist politics, that is WHAT COMMUNISTS USED IN THE 1930S TO ROB MY OWN FAMILY AND SEND THEM TO THE GULAG. My great-granddad died in prison, his wife died in the gulag, and my grandma and her sister were on their own at the ages of 5 and 6 respectively. The "crime" for which they were sentenced was being small business owners. That is what Bernie Sanders really is.

Americans don't want the government deciding everything, Americans don't want ludicrous taxes, and Americans want to keep their earnings in their own wallets. You got Obama parading around Warren Buffett, who is moaning like a whore that he shouldn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. Then, the Republicans notice that OBAMA is paying a lower tax rate than HIS secretary, and obviously Obama immediately refuses to donate the difference to charity. Then, Buffett has Burger King buy out Tim Hortons -- so he can dodge taxes easier.

Socialists ARE very very very VERY generous -- with other people's money. You guys don't like your own earnings tanked, but when it's other people being robbed, you're totally fine with it.

Keep your Finnish politics in Finland, and don't pretend we don't know. We're not as stupid as you think.
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#94
[MENTION=3070]Marksman Bryan[/MENTION]; Your scientific bias is showing. There's a lot of truth to this, especially when looking at the trivialities spouted in the media. The simple reality is that people like to believe inane things without evidence because it makes them feel righteous, moral, and self important. Most of us are none of these things.

[MENTION=5658]xparasite9[/MENTION]; Those videos crop up over any issue. You can find idiots supporting anything. Hell the middle guy did a decent job at pointing out social welfare programs and government funded programs that the right claims are "socialist". Not really sure what that proves. He's in favor of Democracy and he's in favor of Socialist economic policies. It's hard to argue that's not democratic socialism. Hell, his two biggest issues are campaign finance reform and public education reform. The first is Democratic and the second is Socialist. That's a textbook definition.

Are you really arguing that only white people can make a socialist democracy work? Really? What exactly are your qualifications to judge "Ghetto Culture" and what evidence supports the idea that there are enough of these type of people to destroy a communal economic strategy? I'll give you a hint, there isn't any because the US government already has tons of these programs.

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You want to intentionally avoid the "easy mode" to make life harder for people? What's the purpose of this? The cult of American superiority needs to die so we can learn a thing or two from countries that have possible solutions to our systemic problems.

[MENTION=18]Justin[/MENTION]; A huge problem with trying to reduce military spending is that we're effectively subsidizing it for half the world. Europeans can criticize the US military budget and interventionism all they want, but when someone attacks them directly it's up to the US military to do something about it. Then there are the little guys like S Korea, Taiwan, and Israel that rely on the US military to keep from getting wiped off the map. Eastern Europe and Japan occasionally fall into that category too. The pomegranatety reality is that the US needs to intervene sometimes (not all the time), because the world is so interconnected that we can't ignore existential threats which will eventually come back to haunt us.

Do I think this is fair to the American people? Hell no! I would love to see some overall reduction in spending and some compensating increases from our allies but that's just not going to happen.

It also sucks, but modern military is more expensive for a reason. Bombs, fighter jets, drones, tanks, bombs etc are all WAY more expensive than dudes with AK-47s. We're trading a lot of that money for expensive high tech warfare that reduces the number of troop casualties.

We've got some messed up priorities and a lot of inefficiencies, but it's not quite as black and white as a lot of military reductionists believe.
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#95
VerrKol Wrote:What exactly are your qualifications to judge "Ghetto Culture" and what evidence supports the idea that there are enough of these type of people to destroy a communal economic strategy?

How about the fact that I've been inundated by it for the majority of my life? How about the fact that I've had to STRUGGLE to climb out of the ghetto, to not be a failure, not because of any white people (save for the race-baiters I guess), but because of my own people?
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#96
Justin Wrote:We're turning into a country of idiots who care more about what the Kardashians did on television than what our own damn futures have in store.
I mean isn't the irony in this that american politics are basically just another form of abstract reality TV? I mean you have candidates talking about comitting war crimes on national TV, you have candidates that say one thing one day and then another the next and you have candidates literally talking about their plantain size.
Murrica!

Thank god the worst politicians i have to deal with are slightly racist/xenophobic idiots that are ultimately harmless. Poast
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#97
Malthe Wrote:I mean isn't the irony in this that american politics are basically just another form of abstract reality TV? I mean you have candidates talking about comitting war crimes on national TV, you have candidates that say one thing one day and then another the next and you have candidates literally talking about their plantain size.
Murrica!

Thank god the worst politicians i have to deal with are slightly racist/xenophobic idiots that are ultimately harmless. Poast

I love European hypocrites.

The American Founding Fathers told us, repeatedly and forcefully, not to get involved with you guys. How did we get involved? You broke your Peace of Vienna because Otto von Bismarck wanted penis enlargement, and then you got bored and wanted a "little war" as "diversion." On the eve of World War I, you had mobs cheering on the streets all over Europe -- for world war breaking out. Grey, a high politician in Britain, said "the lights are going out in Europe, and we'll never see them again in our liftimes." A few years later, obsolete war tactics having been unable to keep with modern machine guns, a whole generation of Europe lies dead on the fields of places like the Sonne, and you're begging us, like a bunch of little peaches, to come and save you from yourselves. That's how America came to Europe.

Then, World War I caused World War II, as Hitler was able to use the unrest in Germany as a result of the Treaty of Versailles to climb to power. He annihilates all of Europe, like a bunch of little peaches, and like a bunch of little peaches you -- again -- beg us to come and save you from the mess you yourselves made for yourselves. World War II was won in Stalingrad and Kursk, but if it wasn't for American intervention you would have grown up speaking Russian -- if you were born at all. Stalin liked genocide as much as Hitler did, and that's YOUR ancestors I am talking about.

The Cold War -- again, it's America's responsibility to save you from that. We have a "responsibility," you guys said. Why? We're an ocean away, how is it our "responsibility," again and again?

Now Putin.

How is it that every time you guys get yourselves into a mess, it's America's responsibility to come and save you, and millions of our sons die for conflicts they didn't cause and conflicts they should never been part of, and how is it that the moment we're not needed, until the next time we are, you guys start spouting this hatred for us. America is "the devil" until the next Hitler shows up. Also, honestly, don't compare the horrors America caused to the horrors Europe caused. Nearly every major point of unrest on the planet, from unstable Africa, to Northern Ireland, etc., to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, to India and Pakistan, to Russian communism, is Europe's doing. And you're laughing at OUR bullpomegranate!

I wish either that our politicians left you to be nuked by your own bullpomegranate, or that you would grow some gratitude and stop spewing hatred for us the moment our usefulness to you for the moment has expired. I look at these pictures of endless crosses of American war dead in France, then I listen to guys like you, and it just makes me want to throw up. They died so you ungrateful bastards could live, and seems to me sometimes they died for nothing.
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#98
VerrKol Wrote:Your scientific bias is showing. There's a lot of truth to this, especially when looking at the trivialities spouted in the media. The simple reality is that people like to believe inane things without evidence because it makes them feel righteous, moral, and self important. Most of us are none of these things.

Honestly curious - I've never understood the term "scientific bias." When a statement is an accurate representation of a fact, it's not an opinion or a bias - it's a truth. Like saying 1+1=2, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, that statement is true no matter what. Same with global warming. You can't "believe/not believe in global warming" because it's a scientific fact.

I've always stayed out of two topics: politics and religion, because people are so polarized there's almost nothing you can do to change someone's mind. So participating in this discussion is a new area for me.
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#99
Silvarien Wrote:I love European hypocrites.

The American Founding Fathers told us, repeatedly and forcefully, not to get involved with you guys. How did we get involved? You broke your Peace of Vienna because you got bored and wanted a "little war" as "diversion." On the eve of World War I, you had mobs cheering on the streets all over Europe -- for world war breaking out. Grey, a high politician in Britain, said "the lights are going out in Europe, and we'll never see them again in our liftimes." A few years later, obsolete war tactics having been unable to keep with modern machine guns, a whole generation of Europe lies dead on the fields of places like the Sonne, and you're begging us, like a bunch of little peaches, to come and save you from yourselves. That's how America came to Europe.

Then, World War I caused World War II, as Hitler was able to use the unrest in Germany as a result of the Treaty of Versailles to climb to power. He annihilates all of Europe, like a bunch of little peaches, and like a bunch of little peaches you -- again -- beg us to come and save you from the mess you yourselves made for yourselves. World War II was won in Stalingrad and Kursk, but if it wasn't for American intervention you would have grown up speaking Russian -- if you were born at all. Stalin liked genocide as much as Hitler did, and that's YOUR ancestors I am talking about.

The Cold War -- again, it's America's responsibility to save you from that. We have a "responsibility," you guys said. Why? We're an ocean away, how is it our "responsibility," again and again?

Now Putin.

How is it that every time you guys get yourselves into a mess, it's America's responsibility to come and save you, and millions of our sons die for conflicts they didn't cause and conflicts they should never been part of, and how is it that the moment we're not needed, until the next time we are, you guys start spouting this hatred for us. America is "the devil" until the next Hitler shows up. Also, honestly, don't compare the horrors America caused to the horrors Europe caused. Nearly every major point of unrest on the planet, from unstable Africa, to Northern Ireland, etc., to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, to India and Pakistan, to Russian communism, is Europe's doing. And you're laughing at OUR bullpomegranate!

I wish either that our politicians left you to be nuked by your own bullpomegranate, or that you would grow some gratitude and stop spewing hatred for us the moment our usefulness to you for the moment has expired. I look at these pictures of endless crosses of American war dead in France, then I listen to guys like you, and it just makes me want to throw up. They died so you ungrateful bastards could live, and seems to me sometimes they died for nothing.
You know, i really considered giving your post a genuine reply and adressing the many (wrong) things in your post. But at some point i stopped being sure if you were serious or if it was some extreme form of satire.

But after some consideration i realized that you were probably serious. So all i have left to say is:
 Spoiler
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Malthe Wrote:You know, i really considered giving your post a genuine reply and adressing the many (wrong) things in your post. But at some point i stopped being sure if you were serious or if it was some extreme form of satire.

But after some consideration i realized that you were probably serious. So all i have left to say is:
 Spoiler

I am from Russia and I studied modern European history for over five years, with many subsequent years of interest once out of college. You can say "you are wrong" all you want, the problem with proving it is that we DID come to save your asses in the end of WWI, we DID send millions of people to assist with the Western Front and countless billions in supplies, in World War II, and we DID do a disproportionate amount of work in the Cold War. And you DID start spewing hate at us the moment we were no longer needed.

There is no amount of bullshit that can vaporize America helping you guys in the 20th century. It's simply not possible, unless the teachers in your school are outright propagandists.
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