Alchemy Recipes

Yeah and Archers get shafted again as we dont have any lv 50+ top/bottoms like Sins/Warriors do...

Neither do mages.

Neither do mages.

But Mages with their Ultimates dont need it as much as Archers do.

But Mages with their Ultimates dont need it as much as Archers do.

Point is your class isn't being singled out in any way.
This skill isn't giving anyone gear they haven't always had anyway.

Observing you don't suddenly have 50+ tops and bottoms is like your observation you don't have an ultimate - It's status quo, not news.

Be happy for your newly coming ability to make the stuff you've got better , not whiny about not having stuff you've never had anyway .

Pirates need a lot of black common monster color

yay now i dont ahve to go hunting all over maple to find one item thats prob below avg ^^

why is (what i hear from other threads) steel so valuable in KMS right now if it is only used to make lvl 70 weapons? shouldn't adamantium be the most valuable?

Same question as above.
From what can be seen in the list, apparently Adamantium (or at least Mithril) should be the valuable ones besides Diamonds, not Steel Plates. Am I missing something or are KMS's trends just weird?

Steel is particularly common for high level weapons (Steel plates go for as much as 4.5mil in KMS culverin right now. It's insanity).

Point is your class isn't being singled out in any way.
This skill isn't giving anyone gear they haven't always had anyway.

Observing you don't suddenly have 50+ tops and bottoms is like your observation you don't have an ultimate - It's status quo, not news.

Be happy for your newly coming ability to make the stuff you've got better , not whiny about not having stuff you've never had anyway .

Tops/bottoms can't be INT scrolled anyway :f6:
But yea, archers kindof got the bum end of the stick here...methinx overalls should get slightly better boosts from Maker than the top/bottom counterparts, though overalls typically don't add up to top/bottom stats normally anyway.

Same question as above.
From what can be seen in the list, apparently Adamantium (or at least Mithril) should be the valuable ones besides Diamonds, not Steel Plates. Am I missing something or are KMS's trends just weird?

Highly unlikely and I don't know the hacking situation over there in regards to the JQs, but if you check the endangered monsters list here you'll see that they have far fewer iron pigs than we do now. Which is an easy source of steel right now for us. Steel is still needed to enter HT, so it's value might not be from this, but rather that. And again, the hacking situation is probably just as bad over there so all non-crystal ores shouldn't be worth much of anything but... Well just throwing that out there as a possibility.

Same question as above.
From what can be seen in the list, apparently Adamantium (or at least Mithril) should be the valuable ones besides Diamonds, not Steel Plates. Am I missing something or are KMS's trends just weird?

I was told this by my guildies in game, when I went to go buy some steel plates in the FM and left with sticker shock. I guess that's not why it's so expensive.

Is 58 the lowest lv of overall we can make?

Is 58 the lowest lv of overall we can make?

If you read Isaac's description of alchemy you should know that Forging/Item Maker/Alchemy can only make items above or equal to level 50.

This means Lumatis and Plasteers should be doable, but if you're a magician, then yes, 48 is below 50 so your first opportunity for overalls from this skill is at 58.

Are you gonna update this with the reverse and timeless stuff now that Time Temple is out in jMS?

Are you gonna update this with the reverse and timeless stuff now that Time Temple is out in jMS?

Nope. That was out in JMS when I made this list and I could've put them in then, but with no indication at the time of how far off time temple is/was and this being intended for GMS people to begin preparing there really didn't seem to be much point - Can't horde ingredients that don't exist yet.

Not planning on updating these recipes until ItemMaker has been translated in our data. Then I'll do a refresh of the info so that we have all the correctly localized names and values and depending on whether we happen to get Time Temple at the same time or before then ( or it's pieces have at least been translated too ) will determine if it gets included then or not.

If you read Isaac's description of alchemy you should know that Forging/Item Maker/Alchemy can only make items above or equal to level 50.

This means Lumatis and Plasteers should be doable, but if you're a magician, then yes, 48 is below 50 so your first opportunity for overalls from this skill is at 58.

Bad news For us Lukless Mages

Is the skill level restricted, as in if I was below lv58 [mage] I couldn't make a Anakarune? Or could I crank out Fury Coats [assuming I had the items needed] level regardless?
This has no real bearing on me at the moment, I just hadn't heard anything about it. >>;

Is the skill level restricted, as in if I was below lv58 [mage] I couldn't make a Anakarune? Or could I crank out Fury Coats [assuming I had the items needed] level regardless?
This has no real bearing on me at the moment, I just hadn't heard anything about it. >>;

Read issac's post for info on the skill itself. This is just the recipes and there's no point in repeating everything he's already said here. That's why it's linked.

Is it just me or did your spoilers get screwed over?

My fault. I'll fix it.

EDIT: Fixed.

My fault. I'll fix it.

:f6:
What on earth did you do?