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MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]Afeared gave details that he couldn't have known unless he either IS the person who broke in or he observed the person who broke in. Either option makes him an investigative role in a way that indicates town.
What he posted matched what I got in my result PM pretty closely.[/COLOR]
Or he was the one who tried to kill you, and having been stopped knows exactly what the end results of your home would be.
You yourself mentioned:
MasPan Wrote:The mafia seemed to target me last night as well, though the broken window being related to the detective might imply that Corn was right - something else stopped the hit.
How don't we know that indeed, Corn is the doctor, but Afeared is mafia, and Corn stopped Afeared from killing you?
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I find it hard to believe that a mafia killer can get so much information from a failed hit. Maybe he could get the information of what stopped the hit, but i don't think he could have know about the one who staked mas room.
Edit: Or that his room as been staked in the first place.
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Polantaris Wrote:Or he was the one who tried to kill you, and having been stopped knows exactly what the end results of your home would be.
You yourself mentioned:
How don't we know that indeed, Corn is the doctor, but Afeared is mafia, and Corn stopped Afeared from killing you? [COLOR="#cc8899"]A killer wouldn't rummage through my belongings, and wouldn't necessarily be told that they were bothered with. Simplest explanation makes the most sense to me. As of what I know at this time I don't think Afeared is mafia.
I should also note that nobody else has so far stepped forward to claim responsibility for the investigation.
I'm going to bed. It's fucking 2am and I've got work in 4 hours.[/COLOR]
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Bah I need to go to bed, last post from me until later.
FenixR Wrote:I find it hard to believe that a mafia killer can get so much information from a failed hit. Maybe he could get the information of what stopped the hit, but i don't think he could have know about the one who staked mas room.
Edit: Or that his room as been staked in the first place. MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]A killer wouldn't rummage through my belongings, and wouldn't necessarily be told that they were bothered with. Simplest explanation makes the most sense to me. As of what I know at this time I don't think Afeared is mafia.
I should also note that nobody else has so far stepped forward to claim responsibility for the investigation.[/COLOR]
Except all we have from Afeared is "Someone broke in and messed with all of his stuff but apparently he is unharmed. O-o"
Do we forget the universe this game is taking place in? We have Planeteers with power rings. The power rings could easily "mess with all his stuff", and he would know you are unharmed because his attack failed.
But, you make a good argument. I'm voiding my vote. If I get up before the day is up I'll redecide then.
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MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]A killer wouldn't rummage through my belongings, and wouldn't necessarily be told that they were bothered with. Simplest explanation makes the most sense to me. As of what I know at this time I don't think Afeared is mafia.
I should also note that nobody else has so far stepped forward to claim responsibility for the investigation.
I'm going to bed. It's fucking 2am and I've got work in 4 hours.[/COLOR]
Though I am still suspicious of Afeared due to what he said on Day 1, what MasPan has said indicates that he's less of a threat than the others at the very least. Back to the drawing board with my vote for now.
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MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]Comments in puce. You addressed the points I made, but I'm concerned that you are apparently trying to focus my attention towards people that aren't as worrisome to me. This was part of why I made that list - I wanted to see who would bandwagon those I labeled as suspect and who would attempt to divert from that list.
You interest me in that you did not attempt to deflect towards the others that I suspect more highly and instead are trying to divert attention to people that I'm not as worried about.
There's a name that you avoided mentioning entirely. Netto.
(Moved vote to bottom of post for easier reading for Host)
In order to credibly believe that Corn is a Bus Driver, he would have to:
1. Know who the REAL doctor is when nobody else does
2. Have known who someone OTHER than the real doctor was going to target last night (namely, me).
That's a lot of stretching to assume Corn is a Bus Driver. Doctor hasn't been counterclaimed and I can verify that I was indeed successfully protected last night.
Unless you're implying that you targeted me last night. I was visited by more than 1 person last night, not all of them in a threatening way. I have certain clues as to who those people may be, enough that a breadcrumb or two should be able to confirm some folks as townies if they can identify themselves.
Let's see what happens if I do this.
[Vote][MENTION=3730]Netto[/MENTION];
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Whoaaaaaaaaa there!
Let's not jump too fast there. (I didn't think I would be a suspect, either). I want my name to stay away from lynching. I only voted Maping based on your logic. Not only did he not respond, but when he did, his sentence was suspicious too. If it's just because I just voted for a guy, that's a hasty judgment.
Not sure who to vote for yet. I'll post later when I get back from work.
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Netto Wrote:Whoaaaaaaaaa there!
Let's not jump too fast there. (I didn't think I would be a suspect, either). I want my name to stay away from lynching. I only voted Maping based on your logic. Not only did he not respond, but when he did, his sentence was suspicious too. If it's just because I just voted for a guy, that's a hasty judgment.
Not sure who to vote for yet. I'll post later when I get back from work.
Suspicious how?
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I may choose to abstain this time and see what happens.
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Words Wrote:Suspicious how?
I'm not sure how he usually posts, but the tone of the thread was casual until
Quote:Why?!!!! I'm innocent!!! I'm a very respectable person. Please don't kill meeeeeee!
Unless we're supposed to act as our role too (since he was a child). It's still all new to me. I'm one of the new mafia players and trying to get a good sense of what's going on.
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I had to roleclaim doctor, otherwise it was almost guaranteed I was going to get lynched. I had one more vote than the new person and there were only two hours left in the day.
I'm assumiing Derosis is innocent, just because he voted no lynch day 1 and he doubts my innocence. I actually think I know what role he is.
Afeared is acting all new and innocent. Could either be mafia or townie, but since he's new I'm hazard to believe he's townie, since I got everyone who acted that way killed last game, and they were all townie. Besides I'm pretty sure he's a watcher or detective, as Maspan said.
Will vote later.
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I just hope we can get a vote decided by the end of the day, experience with SP RNG Mafia Game killing always left a sour taste in my mouth. We got lucky once, doesn't mean we will get lucky twice.
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FenixR Wrote:I just hope we can get a vote decided by the end of the day, experience with SP RNG Mafia Game killing always left a sour taste in my mouth. We got lucky once, doesn't mean we will get lucky twice.
It's better to be lucky than good. Especially in a game like this.
But I really hate doing things with such permanent consequences without any real information.
I'm goint to [VOTE]: Netto
His defense seems entirely based on self preservation with no real substance. Give me a good reason to change it; something much better than "I'm the new guy".
[MENTION=3730]Netto[/MENTION];
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Alas, I'm going to have to go with the vote above. Some information is better than none and of the active people participating today your argument was the weakest even when you were pinged just now and the one I suspected the most doesn't seem to be who I thought he was.
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I don't think we should wait for another possible night action, but I don't like all the finger pointing either.
[Vote] No Lynch
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By the way I also think Maspan is innocent (that's why I saved him night 0!). He's pretty much analyzing a lot which pretty much guarantees he's an innocent, as I hardly know any mafia players that do that.
I don't think Zelkova is mafia. He does't seem to be the type that thinks too deeply in Mafia, and this is also his second game and all.
I'm quite suspicious of Curtiss because he's just bandwagoning onto whatever Maspan does. I'm not that suspicious that I'll vote for him though.
That leaves Netto but I won't vote for him since he's pretty much already dead, and he does have a revelation I might not be able to change my vote in time.
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There is a lot to take in after just one night. With possible vigilante, neutrals, and busdriver there are too many possibilities.
What I have gathered is that MasPan, Corn, Afeared are pretty much confirmed town.
For now I am going to abstain from voting; voting for Netto would just be joining the bandwagon.
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Okay Fo'real here, How long are you going to keep voting "No lynch" due to finger pointing, Derosis?
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Glad to see someone else other than me found that suspicious. I mean, at this point it's not like that's not going to change anyting.
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I have to make a confession, I didn't actually see anyone break into your house [MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION], I believe I heard one person break your window to go through your stuff but they left you unharmed.
Anyways I'm gonna have to go on pure instinct and vote for [MENTION=5555]Zelkova[/MENTION] again. Not because she seems suspicious to me, but also because if we let her off the hook because we don't want what happened to Maping happen again then Zelkova would have quite an advantage (if he is Mafia).
I'm also starting to have high suspicions for [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION] because they just seem to tight to me if that makes any sense.
If I get killed tonight I think it could be for 3 reasons:
1. Polantaris, Words, and silent Zelkova target me because I am catching on to them. Or to simply cause more chaos.
2. Someone I haven't suspected kills me for the lolz. Or to create a distraction towards my suspects.
3. Lynch
And if Zelkova is innocent then he'd be a very good target for tonight imo. Until I just said that :}
Last words in case I do get killed: Vote for Zelkova please!
Vote: Zelkova
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Why did you lie about the action you observed/heard?
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