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BombsAway Wrote:Maybe I'm just too used to blizzard-spamming but that still seems a little too slow for high level training for me.
Well, it is. I train faster than that on my Corsair. That's probably more of a skill demonstration than actual training, though.
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BombsAway Wrote:Maybe I'm just too used to blizzard-spamming but that still seems a little too slow for high level training for me.
Yeah, you are. They're clearing the map just as fast (if not even faster) than I can solo. It's like a mage that can actually train as good as the other classes. No retarded spammable ultimate that puts mages in a massively different league of experience gain.
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Also, remember that it's Korean MapleStory Tespia. They're going to be much stronger and will probably kill more efficiently than they do in the test servers. When they get to Global, with Global's high amounts of over-powered equips, they'll be much stronger.
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is it safe to call that new glaive a Indigo Arcglaive? =/
do not want fagged up glaive please...
but damned them for making the weapons better than the gMS ones. loving the look of the raven bow. guess that was to replace the arclancer?
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Oh man all those Evan buffs look nice :3 Can't wait to make one!
And wow that dragon rider boss looks epic
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UH OH... CONFLICTING RESPONSES.
I dunno, Felix, don't bow masters have the hardest time training? They're insane for bosses but terrible as far as leveling goes. My only experience with them is through Kev and Isaac's complaints but I would say that your testimony is probably a little more biased. Like if I were to respond, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TRAINING COULDN'T BE EASIER."
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BombsAway Wrote:UH OH... CONFLICTING RESPONSES.
I dunno, Felix, don't bow masters have the hardest time training? They're insane for bosses but terrible as far as leveling goes. My only experience with them is through Kev and Isaac's complaints but I would say that your testimony is probably a little more biased. Like if I were to respond, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TRAINING COULDN'T BE EASIER." Since I train about 3 hours every 6 months I'm not sure I make a good example.
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IsaacGS Wrote:Since I train about 3 hours every 6 months I'm not sure I make a good example.
Of course, but there's a pretty obvious reason for that besides your schedule now (quoting you loosely here, "NEWTIES pineappleING SUCK AND I CAN'T TRAIN AT SKELES") I'm just saying, as far as training goes I don't think bowmasters are such a great gauge.
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Wow Evan's got a big boost. The speed increase was sure needed but also a boost in power too. Oh and 20second dark fog. Much more appealing now.
The New pq looks interesting the bosses definitely look great but I’ll wait till I see more on it.
The new weapons seem really interesting too. But I wonder what the situation would be with them in GMS since we already have CWK weapons.
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2009-12-02, 03:10 PM
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BombsAway Wrote:UH OH... CONFLICTING RESPONSES.
I dunno, Felix, don't bow masters have the hardest time training? They're insane for bosses but terrible as far as leveling goes. My only experience with them is through Kev and Isaac's complaints but I would say that your testimony is probably a little more biased. Like if I were to respond, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TRAINING COULDN'T BE EASIER."
Really, Dusk's response wasn't all that different from mine. I'm sure a Corsair can clear the Skele map faster solo (superior lone mob attack and superior large mob attack), but it's not like he can clear it vastly faster than me (Bowmaster) or an Evan. He made note that their training could be optimized some yet, too--which it could be. That person wasn't very good.
I'm used to what non-mage training is like, though. Soloing for 1-3%/hour feels terrible, yes, but that's about what all non-mage classes are like. That's what all classes would be like if not for ultimates. That Evan wasn't killing slow at all. People just think all classes train slow because of what mages have done to their minds.
As to Bowmasters' training, we're hardly different than the other non-mage classes. Different skills, same crap. The classes in MS vary quite little, in my opinion. We go about achieving relatively the same amount of exp/h. The only difference is the skills we use to do it. I've never had any trouble soloing any place I can survive a hit (HP [or Acc for Warriors] is the only real problem in MS, and that becomes a non-issue at high levels).
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2009-12-02, 03:30 PM
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Wow quite a boost to Evans. Now they're actually comparable to other classes without having to resort to boring ultimate spamming. Definitely quitting my Sair for an Evan when we get them.
It also looks like they finally fixed their Critical so that it actually works. I wonder what their damage would be like with SE and an EWand5.
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2009-12-02, 03:44 PM
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Wow. I REALLY want to play Evan now.
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GROWTH - slow.
POTENTIAL - HIGH.
It's on the character creation page, look it up. That being said... Well, it fits nicely. Dark fog becomes a definite must have... but LATE. And yes, it's interesting to see that level matters past lv 120.
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昇平森膣 Wrote:HOLY CRAP DO WANT!
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They made them much, much better~! 
Awesome!!! Illusion is the pomegranate!!!!!!
Haha 20 secs dark fog, sorry for ultimate haters
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My inner mage just started screaming for me to pick this over Aran as my legendary class.
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This is a very welcomed buff to Evans. Now I wanna see how fast Illusion and everything else is with Booster 3 since that's unheard of of our current mages.
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Asumi Wrote:Awesome!!! Illusion is the pomegranate!!!!!! 
Haha 20 secs dark fog, sorry for ultimate haters 
Illusion is like a Corsair's Cannon at one third speed and 20 secs is only comparable to Heaven's Hammer.
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I knew they would buff fog to 20 second cooldown. Loving the killing speed of the class now.
Dusk Wrote:20 secs is only comparable to Heaven's Hammer.
Except it can kill monsters. A huge difference.
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If that Arcanon had an elemental advantage, I would totally use it. Too bad the 5%, +20% critical doesn't seem too appealing.
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