Abortion
#81
TehMatt Wrote:If your objective is to kill everyone, then go for it. Other people may have their own objectives to stop you, but if you want to kill everyone, truly, then try. You only win if you do what you wanted to do. Just because you are right in other people's eyes doesn't mean you've won, maybe all you wanted to do was devious things or murder.

(I know this can taken that I support people's objectives to kill their fetus, which actually, I am saying this. However, my objective is to make that illegal because I believe it is wrong. We are enemies, and I need to respect you have an objective and I have my own.)

Also, for the hell argument (only going to comment on this one atm), what if I've lived next to an annoying neighbor for some odd years? He's REALLY annoying. He makes my life hell. Is it right to kill him? Again, no.

If he cuts open your crotch with a knife, then yes, you can kill him. If he isn't cutting your crotch up with a knife, he's not mimicking birth, and your argument is void.
Your analogy is also void, as zygotes and fetuses are not human by any respected scientist's conclusions.
If you don't think abortions are moral, don't have one. You have no right to force those beliefs on the majority though.
It's no different than saying "Let's teach bible in school!".
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#82
Relying to everything is getting hard.

Hazzy Wrote:If he cuts open your crotch with a knife, then yes, you can kill him. If he isn't cutting your crotch up with a knife, he's not mimicking birth, and your argument is void.

Who's to say that him parking his car in front of my house everyday isn't worse than getting my crotch cut into? You never know, man.

Hazzy Wrote:Or they're in a low point. Life is a roller coaster, and it'll get better soon.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

It is a solution to that problem and makes it so you'll never have anymore problems (assuming you aren't religious).
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#83
TehMatt Wrote:Is it insane to believe that your life sucks? That if you end it you won't feel pain any longer? Is it insane to believe that suicide won't affect you in any way you can comprehend? No, it isn't. Anyone can be in their right mind and want to end their life.

Most sane people wouldn't act on that impulse. Most sane people can see that life will go on beyond that dark period.

And I guess you could say then, that most sane people can last that 9 months. And I'm going to say that that's completely different.
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#84
TehMatt Wrote:Who's to say that him parking his car in front of my house everyday isn't worse than getting my crotch cut into? You never know, man.

It's not. The worse something like that can cause is stress. Stress doesn't compare to crotch cutting.
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#85
xBTAx Wrote:Most sane people wouldn't act on that impulse. Most sane people can see that life will go on beyond that dark period.

And I guess you could say then, that most sane people can last that 9 months. And I'm going to say that that's completely different.

And how is it different?

Hazzy Wrote:It's not. The worse something like that can cause is stress. Stress doesn't compare to crotch cutting.

Stress leads people to do terrible things. Probably less than pain does. i.e. I think I'd be more likely to kill someone who called me names all day then someone who just beat me up. Names stick, stress sticks, people causing you stress stick. Pain is temporary, usually.
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#86
TehMatt Wrote:And how is it different?



Stress leads people to do terrible things. Probably less than pain does. i.e. I think I'd be more likely to kill someone who called me names all day then someone who just beat me up. Names stick, stress sticks, people causing you stress stick. Pain is temporary, usually.

This is how.
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#87
Looks like Fiel's viewing the thread. Well, it was fun chatting with you guys.

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#88
TehMatt Wrote:Stress leads people to do terrible things. Probably less than pain does. i.e. I think I'd be more likely to kill someone who called me names all day then someone who just beat me up. Names stick, stress sticks, people causing you stress stick. Pain is temporary, usually.

Anyone who kills or hurts someone over their car parking habits needs mental help.
On the other hand, teenage pregnancy can lead to harassment in schools which ultimately can lead to suicide.
Outlawing all forms of abortion is damaging to society.
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#89
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#90
Hazzy Wrote:Anyone who kills or hurts someone over their car parking habits needs mental help.
On the other hand, teenage pregnancy can lead to harassment in schools which ultimately can lead to suicide.
Outlawing all forms of abortion is damaging to society.

I think is more of a sign that society needs to change how people are raised. Behaviors need to change, not how we deal with accidental pregnancies.
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#91
Hazzy Wrote:Anyone who kills or hurts someone over their car parking habits needs mental help.
On the other hand, teenage pregnancy can lead to harassment in schools which ultimately can lead to suicide.
Outlawing all forms of abortion is damaging to society.

most likely, but a free abortion with every happy meal is even worse
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#92
I'm viewing this thread and wondering why there isn't more DERP in it. This is the funhouse peoples. What the hell happened. I am disappoint.
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#93
Hey guys what's going on in this thread? Goggleemoticon

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#94
Fiel Wrote:I'm viewing this thread and wondering why there isn't more DERP in it. This is the funhouse peoples. What the hell happened. I am disappoint.

If you haven't noticed, I've started trying. Greg seems to be helping as well.

GO DERAIL SQUADRON GO

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Hey guys what's going on in this thread? Goggleemoticon

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Little late there.
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#95
TehMatt Wrote:I think is more of a sign that society needs to change how people are raised. Behaviors need to change, not how we deal with accidental pregnancies.

We can eliminate a majority of accidental pregnancies through condoms and pills (which some people feel the need to ban from schools....), and we can eliminate all, or a VAST majority, of unwanted births through abortion.

Technology is amazing. :]

Teenagers not having sex is like Fiel not having a Chinchilla avatar. It just doesn't happen.
Countless civilizations have had the "wedding age" under 25, not to mention hormones are never more powerful than they are from 14-20ish.

XBish Wrote:most likely, but a free abortion with every happy meal is even worse

People don't want hair on their face... so they shave.
People don't want to birth a child... so they abort it.
Explain how that's damaging society.
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#96
Underoath Wrote:Confusing and scared there is a decision made with this choice a child has to pay
She puts it's life in her hands, and then she destroys it's only chance to become someone in life
You should of thought about the baby before you had sex, because you have destroyed a gift from God
You killed, you destroyed
Never will this baby be able to grow up, or show it's love
You'll never hear it say 'I love you, I love you'
God does not give you the privilege to carry a child for nothing
When you kill, you destroy that child's dreams and hopes
How innocent a baby is... How can you put it to death?
What if you were aborted... You could of never had life
And now you make a choice to take this child's life because it is a burden in you hands
A burden in your hands
Destroyed out of convenience
They put an end to you life because you're too big a burden and one that they can not have
So they take your life before your first breath
When will it stop, the killings continue
Babies die everyday, because of a pro choice made
Helpless and innocent they are put to death
Then why did the parents choose to plant a seed and then destroy it?
Pray for the people who are killing the kids of tomorrow
How desperately they need Jesus Christ in their hearts
So they take your life because your a burden in their hands
Destroyed our of convenience
They put a end to you life because you're too big a burden and one that they can not have
So they take your life before your first breath,
so they take your life brfore your first breath.

"Burden in Your Hand" -Underoath

Hazzy Wrote:We can eliminate a majority of accidental pregnancies through condoms and pills (which some people feel the need to ban from schools....), and we can eliminate all, or a VAST majority, of unwanted births through abortion.

Technology is amazing. :]

Teenagers not having sex is like Fiel not having a Chinchilla avatar. It just doesn't happen.
Countless civilizations have had the "wedding age" under 25, not to mention hormones are never more powerful than they are from 14-20ish.

I have no problem with contraceptives, or sex for that matter. Sex is healthy, and good, However, if you have a pregnancy then you can't just get out of it. You knew the risks, and they weren't in your favor. I'd feel the same way for anyone else who happened to have something bad happen because they wanted to do something. Chances are something can happen. Live with what happens.
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#97
Fiel Wrote:I'm viewing this thread and wondering why there isn't more DERP in it. This is the funhouse peoples. What the hell happened. I am disappoint.

If someone started posting comics for every serious post so far, the DERP would follow.
YES. I DOUBLE POSTED. ILU FUNHOUSE.

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ihuMatt </3

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Quote:gift from God
I stopped reading there.
When you bring god into discussions... all hope is loss. ;-; (Unless the discussion is ABOUT god.)

Edit3:
Quote:How desperately they need Jesus Christ in their hearts
Skimmed some more. D: That song != intellectual debate.
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#98
TehMatt Wrote:"Burden in Your Hand" -Underoath

Shmall problem there- some people don't believe in God. Me included.
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#99
because cutting hair and murdering a child is not the same
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XBish Wrote:because cutting hair and murdering a child is not the same

Nor is destorying clumps of cells called "zygotes" and killing living, breathing, thinking humans.
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