2x EXP Card * 2x EXP Event * 2x Entitlement EXP...

not like nexon is gonna give us 8x every weekend. LOL I say do w/e honestly... but some people are gonna be idiots and report it anyway. I look forward to my daily 4x exp since noone peached about it before this whole 8x crap <3

Nexon loyalists are worse than fanatic fundamentalists when they employ the same crooked cost-benefit scheme that makes the purpose less moral and more practical.

- Don't do bad things! You'll Go To Hell!

- Don't do bad things! Nexon will ban you!

This is not morality. This is covering your own ass and making sure your character remains in the game.

not like nexon is gonna give us 8x every weekend. LOL I say do w/e honestly... but some people are gonna be idiots and report it anyway. I look forward to my daily 4x exp since noone peached about it before this whole 8x crap <3

Quick question...

Doesn't JapanMS have some sort of 4x EXP or 5x EXP Card? Something called "Premium"? Please correct me on this, or inform me...

Or at least some other region...

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one. I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games. I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do. If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself?

And I'm not saying this because I'm jealous. I could easily find a junior, but a 2x card and use 8x myself. But I don't.

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one. I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games. I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do. If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself?

And I'm not saying this because I'm jealous. I could easily find a junior, but a 2x card and use 8x myself. But I don't.

I found $300+ in a wallet with ID in it and everything. Took the money, turned the wallet it, and bought me an Xbox 360.

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one. I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games. I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do. If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself?

And I'm not saying this because I'm jealous. I could easily find a junior, but a 2x card and use 8x myself. But I don't.

hmm. I'd take ~$120 to pay to the people I owe then return it. $880 is better then nothing.

But Wow, add HS, 12x, use Taunt, . Better not fix till I get to 90.

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one. I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games. I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do. If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself?

And I'm not saying this because I'm jealous. I could easily find a junior, but a 2x card and use 8x myself. But I don't.

Not the kind of question you should be asking in an MS forum, even if said forum is Southperry lolz

I agree its wrong, but since that wont stop most people from abusing it, I'll say do it while you still can. You already know what the possible consequences are.

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one. I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games. I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do. [SIZE="4"][SIZE="6"]If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself? [/SIZE][/SIZE]

And I'm not saying this because I'm jealous. I could easily find a junior, but a 2x card and use 8x myself. But I don't.

Logical fallacy: false dilemma.

The informal fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two choices are offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses.

I'm just moral in every aspect of my life, even video games.

Everyone has different "moralities". What may seem barbaric to you may be reasonable to another person. You can't simply assume everyone follows the same moral code that you do.

I don't tell people not to glitch because they can get banned for it, I tell people not to glitch because it's the right thing to do.

In order for this part to work, you must define "right". Again, not everyone has the same definition of what's right and what's wrong. You do not have the power to define it for them.

If you find $1000 dollars on the street, do you give it to the police or take it for yourself?

If I found $1000 on the street, then I'd take it for myself.

It's not my fault someone was dumb or careless enough to drop that much money. Since you didn't make your examples clear enough, I'm going to go ahead and assume that these $1000s are raw money, paper bills. Nobody's name is going to be written on a paper bill, so giving it the police is useless since they can't track whose money it was anyways. (More than likely, the police officer is going to take it for himself when you hand it to him. Who DOESN'T like free money after all right?)

Here's a question to your question, for you to think about:
Undoubtedly, most people, if they find $1 on the ground, they'd keep it. Why should $1000 be treated differently? It's still money, it's still dropped.

 To Kabanaw

As far as I know, you're just using those three (failing) examples to back up this claim:

Azalea, incase you're acusing me of a Nexon loyalist, I'm not one.

purely because think that most people have a problem with glitching. You wanted to "conform" to the group idea (or stand out from the perceived bad one). Since you didn't want to "seem" like a glitcher, you try to prove that you're not.

Unfortunately, you're clearly trying way too hard to "prove" this and it's not working for you. Azalea's post wasn't even directed at you. You didn't need to go out of your way to explain yourself.

Sorry if this was a bit off topic.

Nexon reads most of their fansites, no doubt southperry has drawn their attention in other ways, but im sure they still read the forums and do a bit of research, point is, they'll know about this in due time if they dont already, its probably going to leak to Basil or Sleepy from here at the very least then everyone will know.

As for this Nexon loyalist talk, thats just idiotic to accuse someone of that for following their principals, the exp crap wasnt supposed to be there, and people only care because they're abusing it that it gets reported, maybe they just care about the game they play and want it to evolve into a better game in the long run, that involves reporting both beneficial and unbeneficial glitches, you cant just complain about the ones you dont like.

Wow, a lotta hate

And I understand that other people may have different morals. What I was saying was that I have my own morals, and I stick to those morals whatever the case. In this situation, my morals say to follow the rules, which I do even if not doing so would result in me getting a crap load of experience.

Also, by right in this case, I meant right from a rules presepctive. If you're following the rules of the game, the right thing to do is to not do it. Even if by your morals glitching is the right thing to do, it's still wrong because of the rules.

 To Harrison

What are you saying here exactly? From what I can gather, you're saying that I'm loyal to nexon because I said that I'm not even if it wasn't directly aimed at me. I thought I made soe posts earlier in the thread that would lead to the impression that I'm a buttkisser to nexon, which I'm not. Just in case, I wanted to say that I'm not.

Those "claims" I had had nothing to do with being loyal to nexon. That was unreleated to my post, just to clarify that I'm not. I realize those points I had weren't the best examples, but they had nothing to do with Nexon.

 To rayhovite:

Don't over complicate it. You're making a mountain over a molehill. Fine, just for you, I'll rephrase it. If you find $1000 on the street, what do you do with it?

And can we get back on topic? If we keep going down this road we'll start flaming and then the thread will get locked.

when did this turn into an discussion straight outta Plato's Republic?

Quick question...

Doesn't JapanMS have some sort of 4x EXP or 5x EXP Card? Something called "Premium"? Please correct me on this, or inform me...

Or at least some other region...

No, but JMS does have a better deal for 2x EXP Cards. 1k NP (Or approx 10k NX) for a 30-day card which comes with all day 2x during the weekends (48 hours).

No, but JMS does have a better deal for 2x EXP Cards. 1k NP (Or approx 10k NX) for a 30-day card which comes with all day 2x during the weekends (48 hours).

id hit that @_@ thats even more worth it then buying gacha with 10k @-@

No, but JMS does have a better deal for 2x EXP Cards. 1k NP (Or approx 10k NX) for a 30-day card which comes with all day 2x during the weekends (48 hours).

It costs us 10k NX for 10 days of 4 hour 2x. Unfair.

But I s'pose we have our own rediculous items, like Apples

Lol. It's almost hilarious how any topic on SP has turned to ethical dispute rather than a conversation about the topic itself. Those of you self-righteous cynics should just go cry in a corner somewhere instead of trying to reprimand everyone for every God-damned thing.

./plantain

How do the effects work in KMS? My idea was that this was a mistranslation, and that by "event" it meant "another Family 2x buff". I haven't made any use of KMS' family system, so I'm not fully understanding of their implementation.

Lol. It's almost hilarious how any topic on SP has turned to ethical dispute rather than a conversation about the topic itself. Those of you self-righteous cynics should just go cry in a corner somewhere instead of trying to reprimand everyone for every God-damned thing.

./plantain

How do the effects work in KMS? My idea was that this was a mistranslation, and that by "event" it meant "another Family 2x buff". I haven't made any use of KMS' family system, so I'm not fully understanding of their implementation.

it isn't a mistranslation. on kMS family buffs do not stack with events.

Too bad, NEXON will soon find this bug and fix it. And goodbye 8x.. but maybe family 2x will still stack with 2x Cards? That'd be still good, because we could get 4x EXP or Drop whenever we want (well, the I doubt the 2x Family Drop works correctly.. it seems it works like the 2x Drop events NEXON holds: it doesn't double the drop rate of mesos or etc. items.. well, in fact, I didn't even get more equips when using it, so I guess it's just not working like the other 2x Drop events).

People say it doubles the drop rate of equips.. well, you know what, I didn't get more equips and when using Family 2x Drop or during 2x Drop events, I feel like I'm not on 2x Drop at all. And, in fact, it probably is like that.

Also, looks like 2x Mesos buffs (like the Pianus and Papulatus ones) give instead 2x Drop, making ETC. items drop all the time AND doubling mesos, other than probably raising the drop rate of other items. I think they messed something up in the server.

Harrisonized hit it on the nail. Even though I've never violated the TOS, (I only got to level 70) I find nothing wrong with glitching. I don't like hacking, leeching, or merchanting. I don't like the fact that I tried to get 30,000 fame and hackers ruined it while Nexon did nothing.

I would try to return that $1,000 to the best of my ability without giving it to some greedy person who is not the proper owner. If it doesn't work out, I would give it to charity. Because I would feel too guilty afterwards.

I found it silly that you painted yourself as being self-righteous and ethical in Maple Story where exploitation, user abuse, and scamming occur on a daily basis. And Nexon only promotes and supports such Type A behavior. That's pretty much it.

Even though I've never violated the TOS, (I only got to level 70) I find nothing wrong with glitching.

What is this supposed to mean? Exploiting any form of glitch or unintended gameplay is explicitly against the TOS, as in banned. I don't see what the ambiguity there is.