Ask a Warrior Thread.

Overall will loose against top and bottom unless you have the full 140 set and/or have some heavy ass attack chaosed onto it. Legendary potetial tier only increase that gap.
The Lionheart helm is better than the C zak, you trade the 10% HP for 300 HP, a few STR and DEX and 1 att if the helm is clean, so there is really no reason not to get that if you already plan on getting gloves and shoes.

140 helm can get adv bless though. Czak cannot.

Recently decided to come back to the game after a two year hiatus [minus the occasional login] and was shocked at how different this game has become. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the potential tiers and whatnot, but what I'm most curious about is my build. I noticed there is now some 2nd job upgrade that gives +STR/DEX and that I have it at zero. Is this going to be a bummer and require resets to allow for it to be maxed out?

I'm not sure what to do about gear and I rushed into things and wasted about 1.5bil on 27 attack work gloves not even taking into consideration potential and so on I have some 15% STR earings, but otherwise I am completely gearless with only about 4bil left to work with. What should my priorities be gearwise, and should I look into buying things that are scrolled or potentialed?

Thanks in advance ~

Recently decided to come back to the game after a two year hiatus [minus the occasional login] and was shocked at how different this game has become. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the potential tiers and whatnot, but what I'm most curious about is my build. I noticed there is now some 2nd job upgrade that gives +STR/DEX and that I have it at zero. Is this going to be a bummer and require resets to allow for it to be maxed out?

I'm not sure what to do about gear and I rushed into things and wasted about 1.5bil on 27 attack work gloves not even taking into consideration potential and so on I have some 15% STR earings, but otherwise I am completely gearless with only about 4bil left to work with. What should my priorities be gearwise, and should I look into buying things that are scrolled or potentialed?

Thanks in advance ~

Level a cannoneer to 30 to unlock professions
Go to ardentmill, and get accessory crafting and mining
make a bunch of level 40 belts, this will be easy because you can get the ores required to make the plates required to make the belts from an npc for 2k each
if you get lucky, you can get a 4% str+ belt

also, mass fuse level 31 shoes that you can buy in henesys until you get 4% str or better

all in all, if you're lucky, you can get an extra 8% str for less than 20m

at least thats how i did it, haha.
reason i'm recommending a cannoneer for this is their absolutely obscene amount of inventory space.

Level a cannoneer to 30 to unlock professions
Go to ardentmill, and get accessory crafting and mining
make a bunch of level 40 belts, this will be easy because you can get the ores required to make the plates required to make the belts from an npc for 2k each
if you get lucky, you can get a 4% str+ belt

also, mass fuse level 31 shoes that you can buy in henesys until you get 4% str or better

all in all, if you're lucky, you can get an extra 8% str for less than 20m

at least thats how i did it, haha.
reason i'm recommending a cannoneer for this is their absolutely obscene amount of inventory space.

I made a cannoneer two days ago and already got it to 70. Is this still a viable option even with its level?

I made a cannoneer two days ago and already got it to 70. Is this still a viable option even with its level?

Yes. The only reason he suggested to get it to 30 is because that is when professions can be unlocked for said character.

it would probably cost more to perfect an overall using Overall STR 30% or 10%(?) than making a top and bottom.

chaos that w att bro

chaos that w att bro

Good luck getting a good amount of w.att to make the overall worth using, bro.

Good luck getting a good amount of w.att to make the overall worth using, bro.

Good luck spending enough on top/bottoms to offset as little as +15 att and +2 all skills or as much as +30 att and 30% boss which are completely separate from the actual overall, bro.

Top bottoms have extremely low resale value anyway because common 3rd tier tops don't exist and the only 3rd tier common bottom is rare as f'uck and unobtainable.

Top bottoms have extremely low resale value anyway because common 3rd tier tops don't exist and the only 3rd tier common bottom is rare as f'uck and unobtainable.

>Warrior Topic.

Good luck spending enough on top/bottoms to offset as little as +15 att and +2 all skills or as much as +30 att and 30% boss which are completely separate from the actual overall, bro.

Eh... at present my top+bottom is 15% str, 43 str, 19 dex... both parts are epic. With some hammer slot scrolling, it'll be 47 str, just needs a cash infusion. And with Legendary coming, it is basically 12-21% extra str compared to an overall.

Chaosing to decent att is by no means cheap, not that how I've scrolled mine was.

Good luck spending enough on top/bottoms to offset as little as +15 att and +2 all skills or as much as +30 att and 30% boss which are completely separate from the actual overall, bro.

Top bottoms have extremely low resale value anyway because common 3rd tier tops don't exist and the only 3rd tier common bottom is rare as f'uck and unobtainable.

We're talking about warriors, there are lv100 tops/bottoms available to everybody pretty much. My top and bottom give me 92 STR without the potential I'll be getting from both once Master Miracle Cubes come out. I don't think any empress overall can match that, even if it does have a decent amount of attack.

Good luck getting a good amount of w.att to make the overall worth using, bro.

buy another overall and try again with the meso/nx you saved on white scrolls/wards from an expected 1.6 scrolls / slot vs 10 or 3.3+wards

oh and, 10-20 attack will probably be a more potent damage increase than another 21% str on top of like +200%. and top/bot dont have the option for attack.

oh and, 10-20 attack will probably be a more potent damage increase than another 21% str on top of like +200%. and top/bot dont have the option for attack.

That's 100% debatable though, because not everyone's "Total Attack" is the same.

buy another overall and try again with the meso/nx you saved on white scrolls/wards from an expected 1.6 scrolls / slot vs 10 or 3.3+wards

oh and, 10-20 attack will probably be a more potent damage increase than another 21% str on top of like +200%. and top/bot dont have the option for attack.

Not really. Honestly, if you have the funds to ward/perfect a warrior overall, its definitely more beneficial in the long run if you perfect a top and bottom.

The higher your Total%STR is, the more crucial each STR stat is to your range overall. Attack is always important, but for your overall, you potentially miss out on 21%~30% post legendary tier, for what? A small amount of WATK compared to the STR% you can get from your bottom/top combination, and the stats from both combined.

I'm going to stick to my top and bottom, I still don't feel like any overall would replace it unless it has atleast 9x STR + 25+ attack.

The higher your Total%STR is, the more crucial each STR stat is to your range overall.

You have that reversed.
More % STR = Less impact each point of STR has and more of an impact ATK has.
More Total ATK = Less impact each point of ATK has and more of an impact STR has.

You have to balance the two.

Base STR (eg. scrolled onto gear) does multiply with percent STR, though. for example, my DrK has +133 STR from gear, +60 from Dragon Strength, +15 from Pirate, and +30 from Physical Training, for a total of +238 STR.

On a base of 703 STR, that's a 34% increase in STR, 19% of it from gear. Which multiplies with potential - 56% str on 941 = 526 extra str. Which makes my total STR 1467, or pretty much 108% of base.

>Warrior Topic.

F'UCK.

Doesn't change my point though. 140 overall with full or almost full set > top/bottom especially when clean 140 stuff starts getting cheaper.

F'UCK.

Doesn't change my point though. 140 overall with full or almost full set > top/bottom especially when clean 140 stuff starts getting cheaper.

You would most likely need a full 140 set with for it to be comparable on non bosses, and most likely chaos'd decently. This is of course if all pieces are legendary.

Running my own numbers the set effect stats more than made up for the difference in potential (tbf ran with unique stats) and the 30% boss was simply an added bonus. Any extra attack from chaos'ing is just an added bonus on top of that.

I had to make it to the full set for that to be the case though. Top/bott -> Overall would definitely be the last piece to switch out if you are putting together a set piece by piece.

Ultimately for me there's one distinction that outweighs the rest: Level 100 gear doesn't require a PSOK to transfer. (say hi to my Aran, Dark Knight, Dawn Warrior, and Paladin, all of which use them - throw in a future Demon Slayer, and really... I'd be mad to buy all those PSoKs)