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Xzotic Wrote:sigh..
How do you expect me to read your shyt when you quote me like a kid and type shyt just so you have anything to say, even when you don't?
How idiot do you have to be to say "YES YOU DO!!" everytime I say I would like dupe to be patched, or that I wouldn't care if my mts'd duped items will be gone?
Seriously?
"You just said that." "So why'd you say it" "You will when they do, trust me." OH GOD, just please stfu.
"No, I don't"
-"YES YOU DO!!" is basically your entire argument, I mean seriously?
You even keep saying "weapons" all the time when I was glad they removed them, I doubt you even know what I'm talking about even though you quote me, because you still keep talking out of your ass and it's getting really annoying.
Stop posting crap, please.
[MENTION=7716]MrTouchnGo[/MENTION] that's really sad if you don't see anything wrong with an adult woman calling someone a loser, so excuse me if you think I'm being judgmental and realize what you're saying here, because I tried to tell you but you seem clueless.
Obviously you and I aren't on the same level as to who is actually a loser. But enough of that - why don't you respond to the first part of my post? I'll even quote it because if you're like me, you're too lazy to scroll up and down all the time.
Quote:No, I'm not getting it. If a certain thing causes A-Z diseases, and that certain thing is hard to cure, then shouldn't we alleviate the symptoms meanwhile?
Same issue with duping. No one says Nexon shouldn't patch duping completely; they're just saying that since they're taking so pineappleing long, maybe they should get rid of the items meanwhile.
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Vek Wrote:Sucks for people who did buy them
Not in the slightest. I think they got of incredibly lucky only getting the item deleted and nothing else.
Mazz Wrote:Bold font is really annoying to read.
As well as the content of the post.
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MrTouchnGo Wrote:Obviously you and I aren't on the same level as to who is actually a loser. But enough of that - why don't you respond to the first part of my post? I'll even quote it because if you're like me, you're too lazy to scroll up and down all the time.
Because neither part of your post makes sense.
First let me say that if you don't think a woman old enough to be your mom, would call a friend of yours a loser over some thing in game they play, you sir are very weird.
Tell this to your friends, maybe they will open your eyes.
As for this "first part of your post"
This is a game, and You and I both know Nexon is one of the worst companies out there, am I right?
Good, so you should know just as well as I do that this kind of company would NEVER do what you suggest, which is wipe and clean each result caused by this problem (Dupe) one after another, no matter how hard it is to solve. It's a damn game, they get billions and, fixing Dupe is the least they can do, as well as it's their damn job. What you suggest they do is rather stupid, a backdoor, not a solution and clearly inefficient.
So please, make sure your next post makes sense before you hit the "Post Quick Reply" button . Thanks.
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Xzotic Wrote:[MENTION=4093]SaptaZapta[/MENTION], You of all the people here should know I was the strongest NL in Kradia without all those EE-hacked and duped items were even available, but it's always lovely to hear a ~47 old woman calling a 22 a loser over buying MTS items.
Indeed I do know, which is why I can't understand why you thought you needed that duped crap. So you can afk even longer before finally killing HT?
BTW, whatever did happen to that hacked ST I dropped you off BL for?
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Xzotic Wrote:Because neither part of your post makes sense.
First let me say that if you don't think a woman old enough to be your mom, would call a friend of yours a loser over some thing in game they play, you sir is very weird.
Tell this to your friends, maybe they will open your eyes.
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Let's say I have a friend that cheats in an online game to attain better damage.
Let's say I tell my mom this.
Would it be weird that she calls that friend a loser?
No, not really. Because the fact is that no matter who says it, that friend is still a loser.
Xzotic Wrote:As for this "first part of your post"
This is a game, and You and I both know Nexon is one of the worst companies out there, am I right?
Good, so you should know just as well as I do that this kind of company would NEVER do what you suggest, which is wipe and clean each result caused by this problem (Dupe) one after another, no matter how hard it is to solve. It's a damn game, they get billions and, fixing Dupe is the least they can do, as well as it's their damn job. What you suggest they do is rather stupid, a backdoor, not a solution and clearly inefficient.
So please, make sure your next post makes sense before you hit the "Post Quick Reply" button . Thanks.
Once again, you're missing the point entirely. Maybe you didn't read my post; nowhere did I say that the dupe itself should not be fixed. This is the proposed plan that Nexon should follow.
Step 1: Work on fixing dupe.
Step 2: While they're working on that, wipe all the broken items.
Step 3: Finish fixing dupe. Release patch.
Or, we can extend the metaphor to a well-known disease: AIDS.
Step 1: Try finding cure.
Step 2: Feed anyone with AIDS a drug cocktail that will not cure them but will make them live longer.
Step 3: Find cure, cure everyone.
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I like how you arbitrarily picked 22 as an age because you thought we'd be impressed when we can clearly tell that you aren't older than 16.
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MrTouchnGo Wrote:lol sigh.. please, put what you're saying in the same sentence with Nexon and tell me what YOU think is more reasonable
As well as it's not supposed to be this hard for them to work this. It's their damn game and it's been going on for ages. They need to work on it 24/7, if needed, Instead of working on indirect "solutions", so please stop making damn excuses for Nexon, it's really sad we've come to that.
Forte Wrote:I like how you arbitrarily picked 22 as an age because you thought we'd be impressed when we can clearly tell that you aren't older than 16. lol... I guess you do that kind of stuff since you came up with that
funny how I seem 16 to you because you don't agree with me, I wonder how mature that makes you
I am 22, though
SaptaZapta Wrote:Indeed I do know, which is why I can't understand why you thought you needed that duped crap. So you can afk even longer before finally killing HT? I didn't need anything, I wanted
SaptaZapta Wrote:BTW, whatever did happen to that hacked ST I dropped you off BL for? uh a day after Mercedes were introduced I came back to Maple cause a friend showed me his and I liked it and figured I should give it a shot. A few days later a friend asked me whatever happened to my Hero, so when I told him I don't play it anymore and never plan to, ever- he offered to buy it, so I ended up selling for 245K NX
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I wouldn't even need to be CEO, I could easily solve a huge chunk of their problems with nothing more than a restricted read only DB access and someone to send writeable queries to for evaluation and implementation. "Security & Stability Consultant"
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Eos Wrote:I wouldn't even need to be CEO, I could easily solve a huge chunk of their problems with nothing more than a restricted read only DB access and someone to send writeable queries to for evaluation and implementation. "Security & Stability Consultant"
10 bucks you'd be able to send them a security hole that allows you to generate NX, and they wouldn't notice.
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Xzotic Wrote:sigh.. please, put what you're saying in the same sentence with Nexon and tell me what YOU think is more reasonable
As well as it's not supposed to be this hard for them to work this. It's their damn game and it's been going on for ages. They need to work on it 24/7, if needed, Instead of working on indirect "solutions", so please stop making damn excuses for Nexon, it's really sad we've come to that.
Sorry, but my intellect isn't advanced enough to comprehend this nonsense.
Why don't you stop mumbling and do the following:
-point out the excuses I'm making for Nexon.
-explain why pursuing "indirect solutions" while working on a direct solution is stupid.
-explain how fixing duping will get rid of the existing broken items already circulating in the game.
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MrTouchnGo Wrote:Why don't you stop mumbling and do the following: Done!
MrTouchnGo Wrote:-point out the excuses I'm making for Nexon. The fact they fail to fix dupe for ages, and your reasoning to this is the idea that it is "too hard", so they neeed new solutions.
Nexon should give you free NX for that.
MrTouchnGo Wrote:-explain why pursuing "indirect solutions" while working on a direct solution is stupid. SERIOUSLY? DO I NEED TO SPELL THIS FOR YOU?
dupe is out there, if they delete duped shyt, dupers will create mass amount of said items in a heart bit, because, again, the root of the problem isn't fixed
Because if they choose to pursue the dupe problem, they can get it right, so asking them to work on backdoor solutions simultaneously is pointless and if anything will just give them the excuse of taking even longer to fix the root of the problem because they "show the community they DO act on it"
MrTouchnGo Wrote:-explain how fixing duping will get rid of the existing broken items already circulating in the game. It won't. but once the dupe IS patched, they can go ahead and wipe all the items.
What you're basically saying is like deleting EE-hacked weapons while EE-hack exploit still works
What you're basically saying is like removing exploited mesos while the meso exploit still works
Please, go ahead and reply with more nonsense, I find it rather entertaining, trying to spell out the obvious for you
Incase you don't realize how you sound by now, and decide to reply, I'll reply once I'm back
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The difference is that removing duped items might make people less inclined to buy them. People don't like having their gear wiped periodically. And if people don't buy them, hackers will stop duping them.
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did nexon send out the "congratulations your equip has been removed" pop up ): would be funny lol
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Yes they did
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Xzotic Wrote:The fact they fail to fix dupe for ages, and your reasoning to this is the idea that it is "too hard", so they neeed new solutions.
Nexon should give you free NX for that.
No. That's not an excuse; that's an observation and an inference. How long as dupe been around?
Xzotic Wrote:SERIOUSLY? DO I NEED TO SPELL THIS FOR YOU?
dupe is out there, if they delete duped shyt, dupers will create mass amount of said items in a heart bit, because, again, the root of the problem isn't fixed
Because if they choose to pursue the dupe problem, they can get it right, so asking them to work on backdoor solutions simultaneously is pointless and if anything will just give them the excuse of taking even longer to fix the root of the problem because they "show the community they DO act on it"
Or, they could, y'know, remove all of the items, and there wouldn't be anything left to dupe. And like Sapta said, even if they don't remove all of them, letting the community know that they're targeting the items may discourage them from actually buying the damn things.
Xzotic Wrote:It won't. but once the dupe IS patched, they can go ahead and wipe all the items.
See above.
Xzotic Wrote:What you're basically saying is like deleting EE-hacked weapons while EE-hack exploit still works
No, not at all.
Xzotic Wrote:What you're basically saying is like removing exploited mesos while the meso exploit still works
Nope.
Xzotic Wrote:Please, go ahead and reply with more nonsense, I find it rather entertaining, trying to spell out the obvious for you
Incase you don't realize how you sound by now, and decide to reply, I'll reply once I'm back
See above.
In case you haven't realized by now that you're making yourself look like a complete moron, go ahead and post again.
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I'm glad they did another round of deletions. I'm still annoyed at the way they handled the sss situation, but this is better than nothing. Hopefully they can get around to deleting the shoes, earrings, and other accessories that have been duped to hell and back. Also, did anyone else skip mr.-I-only-post-in-bold's comments?
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This argument here is pretty dumb.
Anyway, I don't think they should have deleted the items.
They should have let players keep them but revert them to clean stats and all upgrade slots used up.
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Afrobean Wrote:This argument here is pretty dumb.
Anyway, I don't think they should have deleted the items.
They should have let players keep them but revert them to clean stats and all upgrade slots used up.
The players did receive a clean ST. Check yo72's post.
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Afrobean Wrote:They should have let players keep them but revert them to clean stats and all upgrade slots used up.
That's what they did minus the slots. they got clean average weapons.
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