KMST 1.2.412 - More skill changes

Can phantom's cards be potentialed?
If so, do they get weapon or shield potential?

I don't see why they can't get potential.

TIL a shield is a weapon potential.

TIL People can't read.

Was commenting on the "They're still just as strong as other warriors" part, because even with the 2nd "weapon potential" Aran and Hero still out DPM them.

TIL People can't read.

Was commenting on the "They're still just as strong as other warriors" part, because even with the 2nd "weapon potential" Aran and Hero still out DPM them.

Stop saying DPM.

Probably still mad of losing their "precious" Transformation.

Anyways, can Phantom steal Boosters or Speed Infusion?

Well, Buccs gained some DPS, cool, yeah. We also:

-Lost our HP drain skill
-Lost our hiding skill (barrel)
-Lost our brawling skills, being replaced by more ranged skills, summons, and some weird tornado (whut) and a laz0r that are basically cannoneer skill copies
-Lost transformation, which isn't really bad itself, but got a stupified remedy in exchange for it (summons + mount, whut)
-The energy aura looks like a retarded maple leaf that was aborted by Goku's pimento

But I guess we have decent DPS now, which is all that matters in Maple Story.

Aran and Hero say otherwise.

Arans and Heroes can't fly, jump up to the next platform, teleport across the map, or flash jump (not sure if Demon Slayers can either, but their trailer seems to show it).

As of 1.2.412 (this patch) for some reason "Pirate's Revenge" shows COUNTER above you AND your party members' heads. But they don't get the buff.

Here's the more important request, go upload the new skill icons for Thief and Pirate!

-The energy aura looks like a retarded maple leaf that was aborted by Goku's pimento

This made me fucking chuckle.

OT: Maybe I'm being over positive, but I liked how this ended for every job... except for the darn Energy Charge animation.

Well, Buccs gained some DPS, cool, yeah. We also:

-Lost our HP drain skill
-Lost our hiding skill (barrel)
-Lost our brawling skills, being replaced by more ranged skills, summons, and some weird tornado (whut) and a laz0r that are basically cannoneer skill copies
-Lost transformation, which isn't really bad itself, but got a stupified remedy in exchange for it (summons + mount, whut)
-The energy aura looks like a retarded maple leaf that was aborted by Goku's pimento

But I guess we have decent DPS now, which is all that matters in Maple Story.

It's funny because i swear the Energy Aura is the same aura you have back at Netts' Pyramid.

This made me fucking chuckle.

OT: Maybe I'm being over positive, but I liked how this ended for every job... except for the darn Energy Charge animation.

For me thats like the thing that actually killed it for me. Everything else i can accept except for that.

It's funny because i swear the Energy Aura is the same aura you have back at Netts' Pyramid.

It is, but just like 10 times larger and more out there cause it has 3 points versus the pyramid buff's one. It's a lot more obnoxious and in your face. If they reduced the size of the damned thing, it would be MUCH better. Hell, if they took out some animations, it would make the changes more appealing. Like, i don't know, take out the stupid "Summon an energy being" thing; if you took out that part of the animation, it would look so much better than having the energy being obstruct your character every time. It just looks so tacky and weird.

Stop saying DPM.

What do you want me to say then?

What do you want me to say then?

I think he wants you to say DPS instead of DPM.

It's a lot more obnoxious and in your face. If they reduced the size of the damned thing, it would be MUCH better.

Really miss when there wasn't so much swirling around every character that you could actually tell what was what. I really don't understand nexon's fascination with "IT'S SO BIIIIIG", maybe the artists are all women.

It is, but just like 10 times larger and more out there cause it has 3 points versus the pyramid buff's one. It's a lot more obnoxious and in your face. If they reduced the size of the damned thing, it would be MUCH better. Hell, if they took out some animations, it would make the changes more appealing. Like, i don't know, take out the stupid "Summon an energy being" thing; if you took out that part of the animation, it would look so much better than having the energy being obstruct your character every time. It just looks so tacky and weird.

This.

Sometimes simplicity is better, it's more appealing to just have a few effects come out of your body, instead of summoning little burning farts that fight for you. Transformation was cool because YOU were on fire, summoning a shiny fire thing to fight for you = not cool. I'd play my Blaze Wizard if I wanted that.

That, and I don't like the tornado attack one bit, it's a blatant copy of Cannoneer's rolling barrel skill. But not like it's very important, as you won't use it past 2nd job.

Still... the closest to a brawling skill that brawlers have is summoning the orange guy to do the new fist barrage, which is kinda meh... I think the tacky part of it is having the spirit launch itself at the mobs like some kamikaze fire, which looks just out of place. If they want to do something like that right, just make a little animation of your character transforming for half a second while you cast barrage or the new energy wave, as if your character powered up for a spare second and went back to normal after the skill is casted. I think this is what they indended originally, but changed into something completely different... and doesn't work. For example, that new energy wave is a lot less impressive knowing you're not the one firing it. I can fire my own kamehamehas thank you very much.

I can actually see some good uses for it in general. When i was in 2nd job i used barrel to keep jesters away from my HS mule while i buffed. I'm sure i'll use it at empress to keep mobs away from the respawn point.

I can actually see some good uses for it in general. When i was in 2nd job i used barrel to keep jesters away from my HS mule while i buffed. I'm sure i'll use it at empress to keep mobs away from the respawn point.

*Misses Dragon's Breath*

If they want to do something like that right, just make a little animation of your character transforming for half a second while you cast barrage or the new energy wave, as if your character powered up for a spare second and went back to normal after the skill is casted.

Or the spirit could blindside the enemy instead while you pummel it from the front. Of course, the "summoning" and "unsummoning" of the spirit would have to look cool and seamless. Maybe have the spirit split from the character, strike the target as it zips past it, quickly punch it twice and zip back across (hitting the enemy a fourth time) and recombining with the character. All while the character is pummeling the target (four times, of course). That is, it'll look kinda like Boomerang Step except that the character itself doesn't actually move.

I would rather they have the tornado be like, character punches the ground to summon a tornado to lift multiple enemies into the air, then strike them all multiple times in a manner similar to Evan's Illusion, then appear above and smash them into the ground. Okay, I guess it sounds cool but will be horribly slow...maybe just make it Illusion-ish but make it capable of mobbing and have the hits preceding the slam drag the enemies upward.

I know this may be hard to believe, but some people still play this game for fun.

I got a 4th job Buccanneer myself, and I have to say that so far I'm having more fun on my Cannoneer due to its higher mobility. After this revamp hits us, Cannoneers will have it all and more than Buccaneers have. Got mobility, mobbing, high defense, more damage. If Buccaneers stayed as they are right now for us, at least their gameplay would still be unique.

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All you said.

Sometimes simplicity is better, it's more appealing to just have a few effects come out of your body, instead of summoning little burning farts that fight for you. Transformation was cool because YOU were on fire, summoning a shiny fire thing to fight for you = not cool. I'd play my Blaze Wizard if I wanted that.

What about energy charge showing your character burning... Behind you? as in, like super transform, only wider and shown either behind, or over your character, but transparent.