Your Guide to HP and MP

ok, the charts on the first page are pretty straight forward except I'm still confused about one thing: how many hp per ap point do you get?

I ask because I'm interested in hp washing for soloing purposes, mostly to not get killed by that magic 2800 damage marker that so many bosses in maple have... I just don't want to hp wash if it's not going to pay off much without dropping, like, $80 in nx cash

HP/level: 20-24
MP/level: 14-16 +(Total INT/10)

HP/AP: 16-20
MP/AP: 10-12

1st job advance HP: 100-150
*1st job advance MP: 25-50
Minimum HP: Level*20+78
Minimum MP: Level*14-3

2nd job advance HP: 300-350
2nd job advance MP: 150-200
Minimum HP: Level*20+378
Minimum MP: Level*14+148

The bolded numbers are what you're interested in.

so when you level, you get 20-24 hp, but when you put ap in hp, you get 16-20?

That's what the numbers say, yes. As long as you are a thief or an archer.

That's what the numbers say, yes. As long as you are a thief or an archer.

and a slinger?

and a slinger?

*facepalm*
Read the section for Pirates, please. I already provided one example.

Min MP is off for pirates though i dont know by how much. Im level 124 buccaneer and just washed 5 points, now i have 2328 mp.

124 * 18 + 111 = 2343

gonna try to reach cap, i assume its near here though.

"Warrior

1st job advance HP: 200-250"

This is incorrect. I just advanced and got 274 HP. I went from 170-444 HP.

"Warrior

1st job advance HP: 200-250"

This is incorrect. I just advanced and got 274 HP. I went from 170-444 HP.

That's nice, 40 extra HP for new players. I've advanced to warrior about a dozen times and never had more than 410 hp.

So how does it work now? The job advancement AP reset thing is very confusing. I made a new Bandit and invested all my AP into INT from level 1-10 and used an 11 int wand from 8-10. I had a lot of bonus MP but I only gained 4x MP from the job advancement to thief.

Edit: Oh wait, that falls within the normal bounds. Still, it seems to automatically make a bunch of adjustments.

I also put nearly all my AP into INT just to see what happened. I lost MP(as predicted) and went from 120 MP to 113 MP. lol

You should also mention that int gear affects the amount of mp you gain by putting LEVEL UP AP into MP. I tested it out. I got 10-12 with 5 base int on a mule. when i used mp gear i got like 13-14. i was only like lvl 16 so i cant wear most of my INT gear. i had like 37 total int.

However some people told me with a 150int total gear only gave about 22mp. makes no sense though. you have an idea about this?

You should also mention that int gear affects the amount of mp you gain by putting LEVEL UP AP into MP. I tested it out. I got 10-12 with 5 base int on a mule. when i used mp gear i got like 13-14. i was only like lvl 16 so i cant wear most of my INT gear. i had like 37 total int.

However some people told me with a 150int total gear only gave about 22mp. makes no sense though. you have an idea about this?

I would also like to know this. Not trying to just lurk, but I'd like to know on a statistical standpoint, and whether or not some of us should just do regular washing, or "double" hp washing.

Kinda pointless to post, since this is a sticky, but I'm thinking that Cygnus jobs mirror their normal counterparts in terms of HP/MP gain. Any evidence to the contrary would be welcomed. As far as I know, you can't actually use AP resets on them, though. This may change before/when they're released, but that's how it looks currently.

Any information regarding Aran HP/level? Breaking 2k before 50, Arans definitely get more than Archers/Thieves.

Given that Aran is simply a warrior clone, it would seem silly to assume that HP gain is anything other than that.

Man, I hate bullshit rehash classes.

Given that Aran is simply a warrior clone, it would seem silly to assume that HP gain is anything other than that.

Man, I hate bullpomegranate rehash classes.

No, their HP gain is special somehow. They get more than my bucc but still less than a warrior.

They don't get Improving Max HP Increase, from a cursory glance at their skill tables. Still, that means that a Brawler should surpass them fairly quickly into second job. There probably is something special about the HP gain, then.

Requesting aran HP per level values.

This is no longer variation when you make your first job advancement at LVL 8 or 10.

Every warrior I've made has had it's HP/MP set to 444/113 respectively. I tried a little experiment. Since we have our AP reset at lvl 10, I poured as much INT into my warrior as possible before making the job advance. When I went to meet Dances with Balrog, I had 119 MP. I made the job advancement, I went to 113 MP.

I don't remember the HP gained for Mages at level 8, but MP will be set to 253.

The minimum MP gain per level for warriors is 3. I have had 3 MP on leveling up as a page several times.

Any information regarding Aran HP/level? Breaking 2k before 50, Arans definitely get more than Archers/Thieves.

Aran has a higher HP gain as compared to normal warrior class.

From the video here,
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A Level 75 Aran has 3449 HP, so it would be 40 ~ 45 per level.

(50 * 65) = 3250
Total = (3250) + (Job advancement HP MP) + (Level 1~10 HP MP) + (Base HP of 50)

ARAN do not have HP increase skill!

As for MP, it's the same.. 4~6 per levels.