[1.2.267] Evan Info & Skill Tables

I totally agree.

I might even make this my first main.

you meanie, leaving your mm behind

This doesn't feel like a mage at all. Sure they added elemental attributes, but they also severely nerfed mob damage while increasing the single target damage. Sure, they get critical and they get Amp. But:

Critical at max provides 117.5%.
Amp at max provides 135%. (Traditional mage has 140%)
The only other buff they get is soul dragon, which gives +20 base attack.

Now take a look at these nerfs:

Fire Circle - Equivalent of Blaze Wizard's Fire Strike, but much weaker

20

MP -20

45 Basic Attack

60% Mastery

Attacks 4 enemies

Ice Breath - Equivalent to Ice Demon, but has fewer duration and fewer damage for its ice attacks.

20

MP -22

90% Probability

x value = 4

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

70 Basic Attack

5 Seconds

70 base attack x 1.586254 + 20 base attack = 131.0375 on Evan
100 base attack x 1.4 = 140 on a traditional mage

Dragon Thrust - Seems like a Blaze Wizard's Fire Pillar, but a bit stronger. However, when compared to Explosion from FP mages, it's so much weaker.

20

MP -34

95% Probability

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

85 Basic Attack

85 x 1.58625 + 20 = 154.83125 on a Evan
120 x 1.4 = 168 on FP mage
*I don't know the actual speed of these skills, but I'm going to assume they're similar.

Dragon Breath - I'm comparing this to Meteor, as it is in the Dragon's later stages and makes up its strongest mob attack.

20

MP -28

30% Probability

x variable -5

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

170 Basic Attack

As you can see, Evan doesn't even come close to the mobbing potential on mages. This isn't a mage. It's a warped paladin, a mage wannabe.

Edit: And if AMP is really only 120% like Tikey says, then this mage is even more worthless.

they acquire these skills at lower levels though, they might be gimped versions of the skills mages get, but most of these comparisons are to the skills mages get later vs evan. given evan getting them earlier on in the game, they would have to be nerfed a bit.

the higher level skills for evan seem to blow mages out just that much more... i dont know how well they work yet, but they are much stronger then something like chain lightning, paralyze or the demons...

the main contrast to make will probably be the ults. does evan's other arsenal of skills, which do sound strong, make up for their ult having a 1 min cool down... the ult is substantially stronger in its base ma, mixed with the other skills it would seem to surpass a mage. esp given if its more useful at bossing and offers buffs for party members.

it might not be a good choice for leeching given the cool down, but if they fix leeching thats kinda mute. bishops of course will remain somewhat popular, but it seems like a job that could detract from their popularity. esp IF leeching is fixing in gms.

This looks amaZing! I really like the intro as well.

Also: ANOTHER MAZEFIND VIDEO.

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EDIT: They like, stand above/behind you.

 Oh really?

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What is your point? Arans have the same skill except for physical damage.

What is your point? Arans have the same skill except for physical damage.

You want to see mages replaced completely at bosses? That skill would be the reason why that happens.

I can not see the pictures,

This doesn't feel like a mage at all. Sure they added elemental attributes, but they also severely nerfed mob damage while increasing the single target damage. Sure, they get critical and they get Amp. But:

Critical at max provides 117.5%.
Amp at max provides 135%. (Traditional mage has 140%)
The only other buff they get is soul dragon, which gives +20 base attack.

Now take a look at these nerfs:

Fire Circle - Equivalent of Blaze Wizard's Fire Strike, but much weaker

20

MP -20

45 Basic Attack

60% Mastery

Attacks 4 enemies

Ice Breath - Equivalent to Ice Demon, but has fewer duration and fewer damage for its ice attacks.

20

MP -22

90% Probability

x value = 4

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

70 Basic Attack

5 Seconds

70 base attack x 1.586254 + 20 base attack = 131.0375 on Evan
100 base attack x 1.4 = 140 on a traditional mage

Dragon Thrust - Seems like a Blaze Wizard's Fire Pillar, but a bit stronger. However, when compared to Explosion from FP mages, it's so much weaker.

20

MP -34

95% Probability

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

85 Basic Attack

85 x 1.58625 + 20 = 154.83125 on a Evan
120 x 1.4 = 168 on FP mage
*I don't know the actual speed of these skills, but I'm going to assume they're similar.

Dragon Breath - I'm comparing this to Meteor, as it is in the Dragon's later stages and makes up its strongest mob attack.

20

MP -28

30% Probability

x variable -5

Attacks 6 enemies

60% Mastery

170 Basic Attack

As you can see, Evan doesn't even come close to the mobbing potential on mages. This isn't a mage. It's a warped paladin, a mage wannabe.

Edit: And if AMP is really only 120% like Tikey says, then this mage is even more worthless.

Can someone confirm that the magic formula used for Dragons is the same as for Magicians?

I noticed they don't have Improving Max MP Increase. Any idea on how their MP compares to a regular Mage?

You want to see mages replaced completely at bosses? That skill would be the reason why that happens.

Bishops still have a use. Lol, oh wait I see a theme here. Aran comes along and replaces Heros and Paladins but not Dark Knights because of HB. Evan comes along and replaces F/P and I/L Mages but not Bishops because of their useful skills.

Bishops still have a use. Lol, oh wait I see a theme here. Aran comes along and replaces Heros and Paladins but not Dark Knights because of HB. Evan comes along and replaces F/P and I/L Mages but not Bishops because of their useful skills.

Bingo.

(apparently evan has heal/res though, i don't see it)

My main question is though what boost will this class give to other characters? Cygnus had fairy blessing before it was changed, Arans have that ring, I wonder what kind of boost Evans will give other characters.

Can someone confirm that the magic formula used for Dragons is the same as for Magicians?

Why wouldn't it? Either way, it seems that the magic damage calculator is pretty inaccurate at low levels. We'll have to wait for someone to get higher up and post their stats.

Hmz I dunno what to think about this class... it seems fun at first... but then...

- The dragon floats above your head like a static retard chained to a streetlight... JUST HOPE IT DOESNT PISSES ON YOUR HEAD FFS... :X
- It's still the character itself who's doing the same old magic swings with a magic wand... reminds me of 2004 beta maplestory... the dragon follows only follows you like a shadowpartner... Somehow I don't really have the feeling it's the dragon who's doing the attacks...

Anyone remember the CS item "My DJ buddy" or w/e it's called? This looks a lot like it... and it was fugly as hell...

Now I know this is only the alpha stage of the class... But I really hope for nexon they're going to improve the gameplay feeling / handling of skills differently... make the dragon do the attacks for you, not the character... (not meaning auto attack, but just disable magic wand swings on the character itself... :X)

Somehow I have the feeling this class would have been better if it would have been a dragon rider class (like corsair's battleship)... now it doesn't really feel "cool & new" to me... Even though the damage seems quite good... (sucks to be an AM right now... :X)

Meh... I dunno... Maybe lvl120+ dragons will allow you to ride on top of them? Or are these all dragons till lvl 200? :f6:

I noticed they don't have Improving Max MP Increase. Any idea on how their MP compares to a regular Mage?

This is probably the reason why their magic guard is different. It takes 70% out of MP instead of the normal MG which takes out 80% of damage out of MP.

the main contrast to make will probably be the ults. does evan's other arsenal of skills, which do sound strong, make up for their ult having a 1 min cool down... the ult is substantially stronger in its base ma, mixed with the other skills it would seem to surpass a mage. esp given if its more useful at bossing and offers buffs for party members.

Their AMP is weaker though (120% vs 140%) and with elemental wands for I/L and F/P ultimates they still have a bit of an advantage in damage. But you don't spam ultimates at most bosses except zak arms lol, so no big deal.

Meh... I dunno... Maybe lvl120+ dragons will allow you to ride on top of them? Or are these all dragons till lvl 200? :f6:

The dragon stops evolving at 120.

Why wouldn't it? Either way, it seems that the magic damage calculator is pretty inaccurate at low levels. We'll have to wait for someone to get higher up and post their stats.

Good question. But the same applies: Why would it? Dragons and summons have, as far as I know, different formulas than other skills. Dragons have for instance a different mastery-multiplier than normal characters.

This is probably the reason why their magic guard is different. It takes 70% out of MP instead of the normal MG which takes out 80% of damage out of MP.


Their AMP is weaker though (120% vs 140%) and with elemental wands for I/L and F/P ultimates they still have a bit of an advantage in damage. But you don't spam ultimates at most bosses except zak arms lol, so no big deal.

I see 135% amp, not 120%.

Good question. But the same applies: Why would it? Dragons and summons have, as far as I know, different formulas than other skills. Dragons have for instance a different mastery-multiplier than normal characters.

Summons for Arch Mages had the same damage formula, it's just the multipliers (Amp, Ele, SE) didn't apply to them. I'm not sure about Bishops.

I see 135% amp, not 120%.

Fiel says 135%, Insoya says 120%.

lol, I see a pokemon class.
Dragon I choose you! (although from the intro it looks like the dragon chose the dude)
Dragon! Lightning bolt!
Dragon! Fire circle!

Also, from the insoya translation, it looks to me like their res is like the life-3 in FF, a buff you cast that revives you when you die

In after the idea that this will replace mages, even though people said that about other things as well. Which turned out false.