Wow nice one nexon.

[COLOR="Red"]Dude...grow a pair. There's a difference between using something that wasn't officially called a glitch until later and stealing from the government.

Writing a ticket like this is akin to peaching because someone else thought of an invention first and you're all pissy about it.[/COLOR]

I knew someone was going to say my comparison is off because of the classic ms=/=reality.

IIt seems you're lacking a brain. You completly missed the point. The point I was making was because no one at the time reconizes a mistake/hasn't fixed it does not mean you have no responsibility in the matter. It's the other parties responsibility to clarify whether it is indeed a mistake, and if so to make sure the other party is aware of it. Using a real life example, theres consequence whether you chose to clarify or not if you take advantage of it.

The fact is no one did or did not know it was a glitch. Playing stupid and saying because nexon didnt put a notice up immediatly are ignorant and trying to play stupid. It's like stealing from a store and your excuse is you didn't know it was for sale. It's a grey area, all of you are saying because its a grey area you have a right to take advantage of it. You have a right to take advantage of a potential glitch because they didn't clarify it yet. Christ even if they did people, probably you would have done it.

This isn't about 'me missing out', I'm a dark knight, the mon is still better than an ht pendent in my perticular case because of speed and jump. So please stop making assumptions and present me some principle and perhaps common sense of why this would not be a glitch, or a potential one and people were to impatient to wait what? A month?

Thers a difference between any example I can put on the table, however the principle and idea is the same, it's not right these people are being compensated 10 fold of what they paid for because they were to impatient for a light to shine over a grey area. Oh which by the way is clearly stated in the TOS to not risk a grey area scenario in the first place.

So please hop off the testorone train I'm not headbutting with a 15 year old about ball sacks.

My girlfirend had a spare egg in her inventory. Someone on her BL says you can hammer an HT pendant and make it +2. So she does. Were we aware this was a glitch? Nope. Only until later we realised people were complaining about it and people were discussing the nature of how eggs apply to HT pendants.

So, should she be punished for not knowing of Nexon's oversight?

I don't think so, all of you need to shut the pineapple up with your "ALL U GLICH ABUSERS NEED 2 BE B&"

Edit: And to "ImVindicitve": the reason your example is RETARDED is because there are clear laws against doing such things, if you ever took the time to look it up. In MS, I don't recall seeing any rules against doing it. In fact you probably could have ticketed Nexon about it and they'd jsut give you a blank stare.

My girlfirend had a spare egg in her inventory. Someone on her BL says you can hammer an HT pendant and make it +2. So she does. Were we aware this was a glitch? Nope. Only until later we realised people were complaining about it and people were discussing the nature of how eggs apply to HT pendants.

So, should she be punished for not knowing of Nexon's oversight?

I don't think so, all of you need to shut the pineapple up with your "ALL U GLICH ABUSERS NEED 2 BE B&"

So are you saying your girlfriend deserves 60k nx for 4.4k nx used (if one hammer)?

My point at all don't imply "PUNISH GLITCHERS". I believe they should be compensated, but nearly 10 fold what they paid for. That's disgusting. And if your girlfriend was compensated the correct amount shes not a problem.

It seems everyone here can't handle my tldr; and assume I'm saying all glitchers should go to hell.

Point: Glitchers should be compensated, but not the amounts I'm reading. 8.8k nx does not equal 50k+ maple points. Of course this does exempt ap resets but just tag it on to your amount.

My example clearly shows society frowns upon people who do what they have done as of right now. It's a grey area, and it has been clearly stated by nexon "If it's in the grey area, most likely you shouldn't do it".

How on earth can I make this any easier to grasp.

Edit: Brb lunch Oh as a last note, the reason I used such an extreme example was to show there are laws against doing it for a reason. Some responsibility falls on your shoulders period. It seems my so called retarded metaphor isn't so retarded when you don't pinpoint on the 'punishment' and not the intended purpose e_e.

So are you saying you're girlfriend deserves 60k nx for 4.4k nx used (if one hammer)?

My point at all don't imply "PUNISH GLITCHERS". I believe they should be compensated, but nearly 10 fold what they paid for. That's disgusting. And if your girlfriend was compensated the correct amount shes not a problem.

Actually she only got 15k nx. I hardly think that covers the cost of the hammer plus the additional egg she had, which by the way, they didnt give her a new egg like they did with some people.

@fluffy foxy. My example clearly shows society frowns upon people who do what they have done as of right now. It's a grey area, and it has been clearly stated by nexon "If it's in the grey area, most likely you shouldn't do it".

How on earth can I make this any easier to grasp.

I get why you tried to use that as an example, but what you don't get is that stealing from the government isn't a grey area. There are laws against it, and anyone who tries to steal money knows they are in the wrong, as opposed to this, how were we supposed to know, hm?

I hardly think that covers the cost of the hammer plus the additional egg she had

1 hammer - 4.4k
1 egg (which is untradeable, etc, and her pendant already has an egg on it) - worthless

The only reason to loot an egg if you had one already is by mistake or nobody needs it... it isn't worth anything.

1 hammer - 4.4k
1 egg (which is untradeable, etc, and her pendant already has an egg on it) - worthless

The only reason to loot an egg if you had one already is by mistake or nobody needs it... it isn't worth anything.

It was actually awarded as compensation for difficulties when buying a pendant plus an egg from a group some months ago, in which the group we purchased from had many complications and took almost a month to deliver the pendant plus the egg. They then decided to give us a second egg, jsut in case there came a time when pendants were able to be scrolled with more than one egg, like in JMS. So, it does have value to us.

1 hammer - 4.4k
1 egg (which is untradeable, etc, and her pendant already has an egg on it) - worthless

The only reason to loot an egg if you had one already is by mistake or nobody needs it... it isn't worth anything.

The eggs are worth at least 200 - 300 million mesos each. Karma + Pendant + Egg = Easy 300mil. Yes, it does require two more pendants, but this is what I planned to do *if* Nexon had returned the eggs to our inventories. Also, let's not forget about the people who paid 1.5-2bil for these pendants.

You can say whatever you want about people buying a glitched item, but everyone who plays MS doesn't know that it was glitched. They saw a great item, they bought it. That simple. It's not fair to them that they log in a month later and have lost 2 eggs off their pendants.

The eggs are worth at least 200 - 300 million mesos each. Karma + Pendant + Egg = Easy 300mil. Yes, it does require two more pendants, but this is what I planned to do *if* Nexon had returned the eggs to our inventories. Also, let's not forget about the people who paid 1.5-2bil for these pendants.

You can say whatever you want about people buying a glitched item, but everyone who plays MS doesn't know that it was glitched. They saw a great item, they bought it. That simple. It's not fair to them that they log in a month later and have lost 2 eggs off their pendants.

Oh sorry I thought we were having an adult discussion because an adult would notice that it's fishy that the server in which our game design is primarily based off of has nerfed Pendents while a hammer makes a 50 stat item when nexon itself said it was too broken nearly a year ago. Sorry I guess were not having an adult conversation because an adult would have something called common sense.

Sorry fluffy but it still renders your arguement pointless. She had gotten compensated more than she spent. The eggs game value in Nexons eyes is nothing, thefore the compensated her 3x the amount she paid. Called me ole fasion but I prefer a fair compensation. I won't even begin to claim your argument is biased due to a personal issue.

Oh sorry I thought we were having an adult discussion because an adult would notice that it's fishy that the server in which our game design is primarily based off of has nerfed Pendents while a hammer makes a 50 stat item when nexon itself said it was too broken nearly a year ago. Sorry I guess were not having an adult conversation because an adult would have something called common sense.

Sorry fluffy but it still renders your arguement pointless. She had gotten compensated more than she spent. The eggs game value in Nexons eyes is nothing, thefore the compensated her 3x the amount she paid. Called me ole fasion but I prefer a fair compensation. I won't even begin to claim your argument is biased due to a personal issue.

I'm butthurt because people did something I thought was bad and got rewarded for it. So I'm going to find a thread with a lot of these people and put random words in BOLD to try and make them all feel bad for committing an evil.

The funny thing is that HTP+3s aren't even better unless you reset 15-40 stats for it. It's really nowhere near as broken as you're making it out to be. And maybe Nexon Korea said the pendants were broken a while ago, but that didn't stop Nexon America from bringing out Marks of Naricain which are pretty much on par with the HTP+3s. As it stands, there's no reason for any class (aside from Magicians) to wear a Horntail Pendent.

I don't know how you can listen to anything Nexon says, they don't know what they want themselves let alone what everyone else wants. Today they will say one thing, tomorrow they will completely switch directions and say the other. They've done this so many times you can't trust anything they say last week let alone what they said over a year ago.

Some of their past claims include that Elemental Wands were working as intended, that Balanced Fury Stars were intended to not be recharged outside of New Leaf City, that 2x Cards would never be added to the game, the list goes on and on.

How do you know what Nexon values the eggs at? Maybe they actually thought it out and decided to compensate people for the eggs (as they should, since they were not returned to the inventory) or maybe they thought about the AP resets that some people have used. I think it would be hard for Nexon to give everyone personal compensation and track down everyone that used AP Resets, so maybe they took that into consideration as well.

I can't read and just made myself look like an idiot to the whole southperry community. I also glitch and approve of it only when it benefits me. I did not approve of glitches such as OPQ glitching and such because it didn't apply to me.

Oh look, to further prove you lack the intelligence to even attempt to even be in the same conversation with me, there was a definite correlation. They weren't at all random and made a point, considering I rebolded the same word what 4 times?

See if you read my posts it's not at all about what you attempted to belittle me for. It was about unfair compensation to players who abused a glitch. First off they should get compensated the exact amount of nx they spent (if ap resets at all) but you should not be compensated 4 to 10 times that amount because you were to idioitic to wait until they clarified, which someone with common sense would think they'd approach the next patch.

Oh and as for the quote I wrote for you, I can make up crap to off assumptions that have no relevance to the argument once so ever too. Have a good day.

I don't know how you can listen to anything Nexon says, they don't know what they want themselves let alone what everyone else wants. Today they will say one thing, tomorrow they will completely switch directions and say the other. They've done this so many times you can't trust anything they say last week let alone what they said over a year ago.

Some of their past claims include that Elemental Wands were working as intended, that Balanced Fury Stars were intended to not be recharged outside of New Leaf City, that 2x Cards would never be added to the game, the list goes on and on.

How do you know what Nexon values the eggs at? Maybe they actually thought it out and decided to compensate people for the eggs (as they should, since they were not returned to the inventory) or maybe they thought about the AP resets that some people have used. I think it would be hard for Nexon to give everyone personal compensation and track down everyone that used AP Resets, so maybe they took that into consideration as well.

The thing is nexon didn't say anything. Nexon answered the ele wand/stars incorrectly but answered none the less. Once again, I'm not at all saying that it's not fair glitchers get compensated or that they are at total fault. However I am saying its ridiculous that they did, for your sake "unintentionally glitched" at a rush to get the top tier item rather than waiting for clarification and getting 10 times what they spent for it. I do believe they deserve to be compensated the correct amount they spent. I'm sorry but nx is nx, that is actual money, mesos can be regenerated out of thin air. If they really had a price on an egg they would have just put it on your account. The reimbursment should have been nx and solely the nx they invested.

In fact you probably could have ticketed Nexon about it and they'd jsut give you a blank stare.

but you could also send nexon a ticket telling them their hair was on fire and they'd still give you a blank stare (while it continued burning)

i liek turtelz

Have you ever HP washed? Just wondering.

I'm willing to grant that it was a glitch. I just didn't think they'd ever do anything about it. That's not an unreasonable thing to think about Nexon, right? And I certainly won't claim that 30k is a good deal more than most people spent, because it is. We just got lucky. Bank error in your favor, Collect $30.

Since this has been patched I want to ask how it was done...

Did you HAVE to have 3 slots each time you added an egg? or could you hammer it twice to get 4slots then add 2 more eggs?

Also do you have to move the neck each time you egg it? I thought the quest was not repeatable by one person...

As you can probably tell I only have my own HT neck (+1) so sorry for all the n00b questions.

It seems they have taken Hammering option off for the pendant too.

Sorry if someone else said that too I was too lazy to look at page 2+.

Since this has been patched I want to ask how it was done...

Did you HAVE to have 3 slots each time you added an egg? or could you hammer it twice to get 4slots then add 2 more eggs?

Also do you have to move the neck each time you egg it? I thought the quest was not repeatable by one person...

As you can probably tell I only have my own HT neck (+1) so sorry for all the n00b questions.

There is a quest that lets you give another Nine Spirits Egg for another Dragon Stone if the pendant you have has 3 or more slots. So people scrolled the first slot, hammered, scrolled again, etc. to get +3 pendants. It takes only one pendant, but 3 Nine Spirits Eggs.

There is a quest that lets you give another Nine Spirits Egg for another Dragon Stone if the pendant you have has 3 or more slots. So people scrolled the first slot, hammered, scrolled again, etc. to get +3 pendants. It takes only one pendant, but 3 Nine Spirits Eggs.

Did they remove that quest?

or was the quest added for people to farm/SoK the necklaces?

Where is this quest also, I am unfamiliar with it

Did they remove that quest?

or was the quest added for people to farm/SoK the necklaces?

Where is this quest also, I am unfamiliar with it

It is not removed. You remember when you turned in your first egg to go through the portal and hatched the baby dragon, right? Well go back into that room (it doesn't take an egg to go into the room) and the dragon will still be hatched. If you have a Nine Spirits Egg and a pendant with 3 slots, he will have a quest available. Just click him and he'll take an egg and give you an upgrade stone.

Have you ever HP washed? Just wondering.

I'm willing to grant that it was a glitch. I just didn't think they'd ever do anything about it. That's not an unreasonable thing to think about Nexon, right? And I certainly won't claim that 30k is a good deal more than most people spent, because it is. We just got lucky. Bank error in your favor, Collect $30.

So instead of responding with any relevant point you throw hp wash in my face. Go blood build, it's definatly not fair in any form that people who took advantage of a most obvious glitch be reward for it by 10 fold what they paid for?
Pa-lease. I don't care if the items broken, or if its unfair in terms of having it but..making profit from abusing it is just wrong.

So instead of responding with any relevant point you throw hp wash in my face. Go blood build, it's definatly not fair in any form that people who took advantage of a most obvious glitch be reward for it by 10 fold what they paid for?
Pa-lease. I don't care if the items broken, or if its unfair in terms of having it but..making profit from abusing it is just wrong.

It is relevant. You seemed to have a "holier-than-thou" attitude and I wanted to know if you hated all glitches or just a few of 'em. I HP wash like a crazy person.

You know, I would care a lot more about making a profit off of an honest company. But this is Nexon America: the company that banned me for a week for fighting Pink Been and gave me no compensation (especially the damn masks). I have friends that were banned for leveling quickly during the Bigfoot thing even though they never set foot in NLC or Crimsonwood. I have long since stopped caring about what's fair to them.