2009-08-13, 09:43 PM
A full dex Brawler has a lot more accuracy than a Warrior or an Archer. They can hit it starting at around level 40 depending on acc gear.
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the "new" PG formula?
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2009-08-13, 09:43 PM
A full dex Brawler has a lot more accuracy than a Warrior or an Archer. They can hit it starting at around level 40 depending on acc gear.
2009-08-13, 09:53 PM
They get more DEX per point. And that skill, Bullet Time.
2009-08-13, 10:42 PM
Russt Wrote:They get more DEX per point. And that skill, Bullet Time. I think part of their points are reset to STR upon advancement, like what happens for other classes to their main stat. Kalovale Wrote:Come again, Brawler? How so? Level 40 = (40+4)*5 - 4 int - 4 luk = 212 stats for STR/DEX. Bigfoot requires 274 accuracy to hit 10% of the time at level 40. Brawler 4 STR 208 DEX 4 INT 4 LUK - 0.9 accuracy per dex = 187 accuracy - 4 luk (+2 accuracy) - Bullet Time (+20 accuracy) - Mastery (+20 accuracy) - 1 point in Corkscrew allows multiple attempts to hit Bigfoot without dying = 229 accuracy unequipped, multiple shots Any Warrior 35 STR 177 DEX 4 INT 4 LUK - 0.8 accuracy per dex = 141 accuracy - 4 luk (+2 accuracy) - Mastery (+20 accuracy) - Bigfoot will run your ass over, pretty much guaranteed death after 1-2 attacks = 165 accuracy unequipped, only one shot Any archer 4 STR 208 DEX 4 INT 4 LUK - 0.6 accuracy per dex = 124 accuracy - 4 luk (+2 accuracy) - Blessing of the Amazon (+20 accuracy) - Focus (+20 accuracy) - Mastery (+20 accuracy) - long range for many hits = 186 accuracy unequipped, multiple shots ^above Brawlers require 20 base dex, archers require 25 base dex, warriors require 35 base str. It's much easier to get a Brawler 45 accuracy than an archer 89 or a warrior over 100. Ideas: 14 accuracy 4 dex brown dana (17.2) maple knuckle scrolled for accuracy = easy 20-something accuracy 14 accuracy 8 dex glove (20.4) 8 accuracy shoes
2009-08-14, 01:16 PM
Dusk Wrote:A full dex Brawler has a lot more accuracy than a Warrior or an Archer. They can hit it starting at around level 40 depending on acc gear.
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2009-08-15, 11:40 AM
Dusk Wrote:Level 40 = (40+4)*5 - 4 int - 4 luk = 212 stats for STR/DEX. So, Thunder Breaker would be > all being that they get 6 ap per lvl. Interesting, I wonder how low of a lvl i can get a decent % hit ratio at without spending too much on gears. My PG mule will soon be useless which is sad. I'll miss that lil char being that I named her after my gf who incidentally dies alot ![]() I apq all the time so I wouldnt mind even using a basket each kill. *thinks*
2009-08-15, 02:04 PM
BTMachinez Wrote:So, Thunder Breaker would be > all being that they get 6 ap per lvl. Interesting, I wonder how low of a lvl i can get a decent % hit ratio at without spending too much on gears. My PG mule will soon be useless which is sad. I'll miss that lil char being that I named her after my gf who incidentally dies alot Thunder Breakers only get 0.6 accuracy a DEX (3.6 accuracy per 6 AP per level vs 4.5 accuracy per 5 AP per level). Sorry mate.
2009-08-15, 02:26 PM
IllegallySane Wrote:Thunder Breakers only get 0.6 accuracy a DEX (3.6 accuracy per 6 AP per level vs 4.5 accuracy per 5 AP per level). Sorry mate. ewww really? I woulda thought dex to accuracy ratio for thunder breaker and brawler to be the same. Guess not. Well thanks for saving me from wasting time!
2009-08-15, 04:50 PM
Dusk Wrote:Level 40 = (40+4)*5 - 4 int - 4 luk = 212 stats for STR/DEX. The brawler would also have god-tier avoidability allowing for even more chances if the leecher in question make a mistake in their timing
2009-08-16, 11:42 AM
Well I don't know about you guys, but the overwhelming majority of people I sell BF leech to are 50+. There's a few 40's in there and very few people lower than that. If anything the people who start before they hit 30 and all that are the experienced ones that already have high level mains.
The newbs who don't know how to grind etc etc usually start soon after CPQ ends, and this won't have much of an effect on them at all. Just pop an amorian basket on either them (if they're a high enough level) or an acc mule as mentioned above. So sorry to disappoint, but I don't really think this will slow down the BF leeching business much at all to be honest. You've killed the 2x's and early 3x's maybe, that's it. Though most people who are leeching in those levels can afford maple pops and other work arounds (like using/ hiring a very high quality acc mule).
2009-08-16, 02:08 PM
SoupySoupy Wrote:Well I don't know about you guys, but the overwhelming majority of people I sell BF leech to are 50+. There's a few 40's in there and very few people lower than that. If anything the people who start before they hit 30 and all that are the experienced ones that already have high level mains. Add in the new leeching formula so leechers will mooch 1/2 the EXP as now, and we will see RAAAGE.
2009-08-17, 01:33 AM
IllegallySane Wrote:Add in the new leeching formula so leechers will mooch 1/2 the EXP as now, and we will see RAAAGE. Well if that happens it'd put a damper on things, but the change in PG is mostly irrelevant. The exp change is the only thing that really matters (Even at half the exp I suspect a lot people will still be buying though, since it'll still give a level or so per kill for quite some time).
2009-08-17, 01:43 AM
SoupySoupy Wrote:Well if that happens it'd put a damper on things, but the change in PG is mostly irrelevant. The exp change is the only thing that really matters (Even at half the exp I suspect a lot people will still be buying though, since it'll still give a level or so per kill for quite some time). Let's see...... 3-5m for one level in the 50-70 range? HAHAHAHAHA no.
2009-08-17, 05:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 2009-08-17, 06:24 AM by SoupySoupy.)
Huh? According to the old exp table on hidden street you need at most, 2 mil exp to level at 70.
I haven't really payed attention to the exact math behind it, but with HS and family 2x you can get 2 or close to 2 levels per kill into your 60-70s. Cut that down to one level and that's still not so bad. Edit: I guess you meant that they'd still get 2 levels huh? So sorry if my stupidity annoyed you, I forgot that the exp is usually overkill.
2009-08-17, 01:39 PM
SoupySoupy Wrote:Huh? According to the old exp table on hidden street you need at most, 2 mil exp to level at 70. Requiring the leechee to pay 5k rep will probably require another 5-10m, or whatever people pay for 2x party rep. Probably 15-25m+ or more to level as fast as before?
2009-08-18, 03:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 2009-08-18, 03:58 AM by SoupySoupy.)
^Yeah pretty much that.
They can use their own rep too though. Three 2x exps from their own pool and a 1.5x would also give them full exp depending on level. But of course plenty of people do more than 3-4 at once so it will be a pain still, yeah.
2009-08-18, 04:08 AM
SoupySoupy Wrote:^Yeah pretty much that. [color="#cc8899"]Easily averted by having a "Senior mule," or a mule owned by the person selling leech. This mule adds the leecher as a Jr, then buffs them once the leecher is unable to buff themself anymore. Easy to get the rep for this while the person is leeching several levels worth of BF at a time. Especially when 1 30min 2x party buff lasts through 3+ Bigfoots with some high level warriors. Having an additional Senior Mule above that gets even more rep cycled in. Rotating them out as they use their buffs is always an option as well. I hate leeching, but I love logistics. Meh.[/COLOR] |
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