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and you know what, kudos to nexon for releasing a pendant that rewards teamwork and hard effort rather than the ability to buy yourself a boss reward. if only they could release a hat now that will bust zhelm sales.

The pendant can be sold in shops. 'Nuff said.

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60% Glove att = 2 attack.

Clean WG = 5 slots.

2^5 = 10.

Just wanna point out, 2^5=32. You're looking for multiplication, not exponents.

Edit: but this did just give me a fantastic idea for a new scroll.

I was rare like hell to succeed doing so much ATT in a WG before the white scrolls and dark scrolls. Hellish rare.

You're kidding right? I think you mean 13/14+ attack. BWGs were around back then, you know.

I'm part of a HT group that sells Pends/Eggs (though not really one of the top ones in our server). I even had to go through a lot of trouble and several runs to earn my Pendant, Egg and MW20 (never paid for any of them, thankfully). Despite all that, I'm not upset Nexon made MW20 a joke to get because of boxes and this new pendant that ruins HT pends. It happens all the time in Maplestory... I've learned to accept it long ago.

It's very easy to understand why Opeth is upset. Almost anyone would be if they spent a crapton of mesos (600m?) for an item that gets completely replaced shortly after. He has every right to complain. I sure as hell would be.

And besides that, his point is valid for other reasons. Notice how screwed up the equipment standards are in our version of MS? If you want the best, there's really no other option than getting the special equips GMS has released: Facestompers, Stormcaster Gloves and now Mark of Naricain. Look at how common Chaos Scrolls are in our version, too. All those equips almost completely beat any other equip in their class. It's pretty stupid. If they keep it up, eventually the majority of people will have identical equips simply because they are so much better than everything else. GMS already shows signs of that... Class-unique equips are getting closer and closer to death.

I don't mind all these things, like I've said. But let's not be dense people. It's easy to understand his arguments and where he's coming from with his complaints.

Just wanna point out, 2^5=32. You're looking for multiplication, not exponents.

Edit: but this did just give me a fantastic idea for a new scroll.

Yeah, my bad. What's that newfangled symbol for multiplication nowadays anyway?

Yeah, I can see where both sides are coming from. Because of this patch, HT pendants are now in a quarter of the demand they were because they still give mages about 7 more MA than a naricain. I know I want one not only for the extra MA, but for the luk. Pretty, pretty luk.

And Opeth, *.

I payed 45mill for a clean 95 Attack Devils sunrise before the 4th job patch. Refund me please nexon!

No.

I think the pendy is somwhat balanced. Mages won't need it. "most" thiefs won't. Alot of BM's have there builds around the 2x+ str bonus from HT pendents. However. Warriors, who compared to thiefs/Archers will get a nice bonus. But like I said its only somwhat balanced. Dexless NL's now have a new toy. and such.

The pendant can be sold in shops. 'Nuff said.

it CAN be, doesn't mean that the only option is to buy it. the pq is not monopolized by guilds. (unlike other boss rewards). at least with this pq it's fairly easy to get into a random pq run and earn it.

I payed 45mill for a clean 95 Attack Devils sunrise before the 4th job patch. Refund me please nexon!

No.

I think the pendy is somwhat balanced. Mages won't need it. "most" thiefs won't. Alot of BM's have there builds around the 2x+ str bonus from HT pendents. However. Warriors, who compared to thiefs/Archers will get a nice bonus. But like I said its only somwhat balanced. Dexless NL's now have a new toy. and such.

A lot of warriors rely on the acc from HT pendants actually. Even though the naricain is comparable, it still doesn't give as much acc.

Once people adapt to this new change though, people will probably base their builds around these pendants. Until nexon comes out with another version that is. o.o

it CAN be, doesn't mean that the only option is to buy it. the pq is not monopolized by guilds. (unlike other boss rewards). at least with this pq it's fairly easy to get into a random pq run and earn it.

And why is that? Because it's been bugged for the last week. >_>

Edit: Wait, nvm that. Missed the point.

it CAN be, doesn't mean that the only option is to buy it. the pq is not monopolized by guilds. (unlike other boss rewards). at least with this pq it's fairly easy to get into a random pq run and earn it.

You forget one thing. These pendants will become SO common that any idiot with 5mil will be able to buy one. Now stop and think for a minute. Is a wealthy damage whore going to actually try and earn this pendant? F'uck no.

I payed 45mill for a clean 95 Attack Devils sunrise before the 4th job patch. Refund me please nexon!

No.

I think the pendy is somwhat balanced. Mages won't need it. "most" thiefs won't. Alot of BM's have there builds around the 2x+ str bonus from HT pendents. However. Warriors, who compared to thiefs/Archers will get a nice bonus. But like I said its only somwhat balanced. Dexless NL's now have a new toy. and such.

most of the BMs using that would have to be anticipating that they would get the ht pendant. I on the other hand, feel like i will never get so went with a 80 str base and all my equips to equal what i need (115 in hopes of an Arclancer <_<) even with the HT pendant, thats a LOT of str scrolling.

Lets say you go with 25 base str, +15 from zak helm, + 22 from ht pendant, there already is only 62 str, and just to use the lowest of the "end game" bows, you need at least 85 str. So lets say +10 for a str pac (14 for an YAC) 1 str from shoes, and 6 (dreen azurna) from overall, now you have 79 str total (83 with YAC, but most would go for attack) thats still a good 6 short from an arund. You can scroll the overall for str, but the only way for it to be worth it, is if it lets you replace the cape with a dex one instead, you you still have a better outlook with the overall stat wise.

Basically im saying the 2x base str is not smart >_>

A lot of warriors rely on the acc from HT pendants actually. Even though the naricain is comparable, it still doesn't give as much acc.

Once people adapt to this new change though, people will probably base their builds around these pendants. Until nexon comes out with another version that is. o.o



And why is that? Because it's been bugged for the last week. >_>

Edit: Wait, nvm that. Missed the point.

ive got a dep star atm and with 35 base dex and my partially scrolled top/bottom and clean zhat i have about 140-145 acc (depending on my last helm reloot) which is more than enough for pretty much anything. warriors dont rely on the accuracy from htp. the 10 att will lure any warrior to a mark.

and you know what, kudos to nexon for releasing a pendant that rewards teamwork and hard effort rather than the ability to buy yourself a boss reward. if only they could release a hat now that will bust zhelm sales.

it CAN be, doesn't mean that the only option is to buy it. the pq is not monopolized by guilds. (unlike other boss rewards). at least with this pq it's fairly easy to get into a random pq run and earn it.

The fact that if can be bought pretty much ruins your first statement. Welcome to GMS, home of the lazy bastards.

Not my fault your party didn't know what to do/was weak.

Then how is it Nexon's fault that you're too strong for the PQ? It's level 90+ content, not level 150+.

Then how is it Nexon's fault that you're too strong for the PQ? It's level 90+ content, not level 150+.

Horntail is level 80 but you don't see 8x people killing it. Why? Because it's impossible.

Back on topic...

Did they fix the bugs they said they would?

ive got a dep star atm and with 35 base dex and my partially scrolled top/bottom and clean zhat i have about 140-145 acc (depending on my last helm reloot) which is more than enough for pretty much anything. warriors dont rely on the accuracy from htp. the 10 att will lure any warrior to a mark.

Just because you don't doesn't mean the rest of them do. o.o I know a lot of dexless warriors that use HT pendants when they try to figure out when they can hit stuff.

Back on topic...

Did they fix the bugs they said they would?

Not sure about BF, but my hero is FREEEE.

And as for the Mark, it's just the new standard. I'm sure the next boss will have an even stronger pendant to make the Mark look like nubcakes and it'll be harder than HT so guilds can monopolize it and have tons of fun!

The only people who suffer are buyer of HT pends. But ...nothing forced you to buy those HT pends. You could of easily leveled and made the connections to get intoa run (easier said than done on some servers, but doable).

You paid to have your pendant at 120, live with it.

Horntail is level 80 but you don't see 8x people killing it. Why? Because it's impossible.

Well, this wasn't impossible for the party I'm with (attack party = 12x NL, 13x Marksman, 13x Corsair, 2 15x DKs, 1 Bishop - "distracting party" = 2 DKs, 1 Bishop - note that the other bowman, thief and pirate died, otherwise this is near the party requirements), and it took a lot closer to the alloted time (3 of 90min remaining, 4th boss went down) so obviously we're more what Nexon expected.
And of course the 3 main attackers (Marksman, Corsair, and stronger DK) used the pendants that had dropped, otherwise I think it would have been impossible.


My warrior's base dex is fine with a Spiegelmann necklace, should I complain about HT because it's 20 wasted dex?

and you know what, kudos to nexon for releasing a pendant that rewards teamwork and hard effort rather than the ability to buy yourself a boss reward. if only they could release a hat now that will bust zhelm sales.

I have no idea what you're smoking. If you're talking about the Naricain pendants, those are TRADEABLE. It's only a matter of time that people who never PQ will be able to get a 12 watk pendant whenever they want, assuming they have mesos.

HT Pendants aren't entirely obsolete either. Their sheer primary stat bonuses has led to dependence on their use to equip higher lvl weapons for certain classes. One of my guildies actually cried because the Naricain Mark didn't give the necessary bonuses to let him equip his weapon. But that's not why I'm saying HT Pendants are good, but rather they help supplement secondary stats, such as Warrior's accuracy.