[SPOILERS] X and Y pre-release Leaks and Rumours thread

I was looking for a rumor roundup and I found this. What do you think of the pokemon in this video?
(ps i'm new to the forum, hi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c87HIc9ku7o

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I believe the 3 pokemon there have been confirmed fake already unfortunately. I'm not 100% sure on all 3 of them though, everything is a mess right now, rumours flying around everywhere.

In the video, the pictures of the last forms of the starters were just random art used for the video. Also, froakie's evolution had another name, called Frogue (frog + rogue). This follows the the frog + word nameing scheme, which makes me hope that it's real and that greninja is a fakey. At the same time, this dude didn't give any pictures for their last forms. If people aren't allowed to leak images till october something, I feel like most wouldn't leak it, and I'm also holding on to that as hope that most of this stuff are just amazing attempts and fooling us.

Binacle? More like the Diglett of the Sea. Maybe Doduo would be a better comparison. Eventually Trinacle? I stopped at Yellow, so I don't have anymore recent references.

That Torchic animation is fucking adorable.

I'm starting to get a bit worried now. But maybe, just maybe, even if these screenshots, GIFs, and videos are real, that the info presented is not. I will be EXTREMELY upset if there is only a handful of new Pokemon and zero end-game. It's just so unlike Nintendo to take a step forward with the Pokemon IP and then two steps back.

Also, with those recent pictures, anyone find it strange that there are two separate Hawlucha pictures, each one has the Hawlucha name, but they look different? Not saying they're fake, but that's odd. For all I know, since it's based on a luchadore, perhaps there are multiple versions with different "masks/faces/designs", who knows.

Also, with those recent pictures, anyone find it strange that there are two separate Hawlucha pictures, each one has the Hawlucha name, but they look different? Not saying they're fake, but that's odd. For all I know, since it's based on a luchadore, perhaps there are multiple versions with different "masks/faces/designs", who knows.

The pokemon looks exactly the same in all 3 pictures to me. Just from different angles/different parts of it's animation.
The only questionable part in my opinion is the slightly darker colouring in the first picture. and that can be chalked up to lighting.

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I suppose you're right. The third up close shot just kinda took me for a loop from the different perspective. Looked different at first.

"There is only 70 new Pokemon and X and Y has practically no end-game" I refuse to believe any of this. That is pure bullshit. That would mean basically every Pokemon we've seen already + a few legendaries is all the new Pokemon in the game. That's not even enough to fill certain routes with any new pokemon. In which case they should of called this BW3.

Flying is also almost just as blue as Water type in this picture. It should be more like a light purple. So I think that was a mistake by the person who created this image.

Also Greninja's naming pattern is very weird which is another reason I think it's fake. It's supposed to be Frog + rank. Or really anything that transitions well.. this doesn't.
Frog (also a pun with croak) + Rookie = Froakie
Frog + Brigadier = Frogadier
Grenioulle + Ninja = Greninja

It's just a very random change. Grenioulle is french for Frog, and the only thing I can think of that even makes sense for Gren. And I don't think the leaker is playing the french version of the game because attacks and items wouldn't retain their english names. For example if he was playing French then Mystic Water would be Eau Mystique. I also don't see how his design makes much sense. Where did the bubble cloak go? Why is it gone? Why is his tongue suddenly long as pineapple? Where the hell did those paper airplane ears come from? If this is real I am no longer picking Froakie lol.

i'm taking everything in this thread as fake unless nintendo themselves post it because there's plenty of people with skill and free time to make anything, that said and for the sake of arguing though...

couldn't that be the name of the pokemon in a different "area", like charizard's french name being dracafeu, or klang's being "clic"

Trust fan-art to make questionable things look better:

Greninja doesnt fit with the two others though. Where did the black spots go? The bubbles? His ears suddenly becoming pointy. What the pineapple is the pink scarf? His tongue?

True facts in this post

I hate this thread because nothing should be confirmed until Nintendo leaks it/October 12th, and I hate fakemon leakers.

That said, Hawlucha is cool.

More rumours:

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- There are over 100 Pokemon, I won't go into the exact number but it is more than 100 and a less then the 156 Pokemon of the previous games 'Pokemon Black and Pokemon White'
It's a good substantial amount of Pokemon that I'm highly sure that everyone will be happy with.
I won't reveal the names of these Pokemon in case I get in trouble so I'll just describe them!

- There are a lot of unique typing's that haven't been seen before! the best in my opinion being a Electric/Fire type!

- The Starters final evolved forms are of that, that has been rumored, Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting.

- Chespin's final evolution - Grass/Dark is very round and spiky, lots of spikes all over it's body, its spikes are a sort of armor and it also holds a giant spike like a sword.

- Fennekin's final evolution - Fire/Psychic is very majestic looking, it now holds the stick it use to have as a Braixen and the flame on it is a lot bigger, it's tail is longer and more sleek, it's ears are very pointy and the fur in it's ears is longer with puffs at the end of it, it's fur is longer too, almost looking like a dress/gown of sorts.

- Froakie's final evolution - Water/Fighting is a lot more sleek and looks fast! it's almost completely dark blue and has black coloured spots on it's face, it has some white markings still but not many, the bubbles around it's neck is also longer.

- Swirlix can be found after the first gym it evolves into a pure Fairy Type, it looks more like a dog now and has a bigger tongue and drool dripping from it's mouth, it's paws/ears are larger and it has a swirl of 'fur' on it's had now and it's tail looks like a lollypop.

- Spritzee evolves into a Fairy/Dark type, it looks like a cross between a Flamingo and a human, it's quiet creepy actually...it has wings like Lugia's as in they're not shaped like wings but more like arms, it's beak is bigger with a black marking on the tip of it, it's eyes are more evil looking too. It has White feathers for a tail. It's now a dull Pink colour.

- A new Wolf Pokemon that is Ice/Normal type, it's soooooooooo cute! it's a little puppy with white fur and big bight blue eyes, it has 2 black marks on it's back and 2 black spots above it's eyes and a little black puffy tail, it evolves into a Ice/Dark type Wolf, much larger and more menacing, it still has it's bright blue eyes, it has dark gray fur and 2 white spots above it's eyes now, it's 2 black marks on it's back become spikes of fur with white tips, it's tail is bigger with a white tip also, it has 2 long fangs sticking out of it's mouth also.

- A new Fire/Rock type that looks like a little walking Volcano, has a similar appearance to Snorunt as in body shape, it evolves twice.

- A new Moth Pokemon, it's a Bug/Psychic type, it's little and cute, it has a white body with long yellow antennas and black wings with a yellow crescent on each wing, it evolves.

- You get given a Pokemon Egg from the daycare upon arriving, the man says that a trainer left their Pokemon there and when he came back he didn't want the Pokemon egg so you take it. It hatches into one of any of the pre-evolved Pokemon (Pichu, Elekid, Magby, Happiny, Togepi, Whynaut, Munchlax etc...)

- There are a total of 11 Legendary Pokemon.

3 Game Mascots, 5 Side Legend, 2 Event Legends and 1 Pixie Legend.

- The 3 Main Mascots have to do with Life/Peace and Death/Destruction and the 3rd being responsible for keeping things moving forward in the world (I'm not sure how to word that but things like beginning's and endings I think?).

- The 5 Side Legends have their own legend, 4 of them are 'brothers' and the other one is their 'noble steed'

- The 2 Event Legends have to do with the Past and Future, the Past one accidentally falls through time to present time and the Future one has something to do with coming from the future to stop an event that will destroy the Kalos Region.

- The 1 Pixie Legend has to do with bringing luck.

- Pokemon that become Fairy type are Marill, Azumaril, Mawlie, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable (All become pure Fairy type) Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss (All become Fairy/Flying minus Togepi) Dunsparce, Gardevior and the Chansey line.

- Some attacks that become Fairy Type are Sweet Kiss, Metronome, Moonlight, Swift, Charm and Wish.

- There ARE Pre-evolutions and Evolutions of past generation Pokemon, there's not as many as Generation 4 though. I won't say which Pokemon have them but there are a couple of fan favorites getting Evolutions which actually look really cool!

- All the previous generations starters get Mega-Evolutions, but a couple more Pokemon getting Mega-Evolutions are Raichu, Farfetch'd, Tauros, Dragonite, Steelix, Heracross, Miltank, Camerupt, Sharpedo, Tropius, Floatzel, Cherrim, Togekiss, Haxorus, there are a few others too.

- Not all starters mega-evolutions, mega-stones can be found in the game, this is probably to do with special giveaway events.

The Gym's types are Bug, Fairy, Electric, Fighting, Rock, Grass, Dark and Fire
The Elite Four's types are Normal, Flying, Water and Steel
The Champion uses mix types/the types left over (Ground, Poison, Ghost, Ice, Psychic, Dragon)

- 'Spike Barrage' is a Grass type attack that attacks the foe with spikes 1-5 times, it raises the users Attack and Defense but lowers it's speed.

- 'Belch' is a Poison Type attack, it causes damage and has a high chance of Poisoning the foe.

- 'Aqua Blade' is a Water Type attack, it slashes the foe with blades of water, it raises the Attack and Special of the user.

- 'Glow Punch' is a Fairy Type attack, it punches the foe with a fist of burning light, it can also cause confusion or can burn the foe.

- 'Fire Pulse' is a Fire Type attack, the user releases a blast of fire from it's body, it causes damage to all those on the field (Good for Horde battles) even the user gets damage, it however raises Attack and Special Attack of the user, it can also Burn the user and foes."

It all sounded good until he mentioned the event legendaries. How would he have seen them? afaik, we only knew about Meloetta/Keldeo/Genesect because the game was hacked.

There are a lot of unique typing's that haven't been seen before! the best in my opinion being a Electric/Fire type!

Aside from this list probably being fake...

Heat Rotom

A new Wolf Pokemon that is Ice/Normal type, it's soooooooooo cute! it's a little puppy with white fur and big bight blue eyes, it has 2 black marks on it's back and 2 black spots above it's eyes and a little black puffy tail, it evolves into a Ice/Dark type Wolf, much larger and more menacing, it still has it's bright blue eyes, it has dark gray fur and 2 white spots above it's eyes now, it's 2 black marks on it's back become spikes of fur with white tips, it's tail is bigger with a white tip also, it has 2 long fangs sticking out of it's mouth also.

Please be true, I want this pokemon so bad. Nintendo, if not make it real for Gen 7 pls.

Aww, a little volcano :')

Kind of expected the entire Gardevoir line to be part fairy, or at least Kirlia.

Still waiting for a corgi pokemon >:C

Still waiting for a corgi pokemon >:C

Maybe if the next region is based on England.

(which it totally, totally should be.)

I'd actually love a Corgi female-only line that becomes like the Queen of England in it's final evo.
Do it Gamefreak.

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Pokemon that become Fairy type are Marill, Azumaril, Mawlie, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable (All become pure Fairy type)

Probably meant mawile, but still no

Why would they strip mawile (and marill) of their second types?

[video=youtube;NiF9d67kd-o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiF9d67kd-o[/video]

Anyways, in this video we see some more fakemons, but at 3:40 we see how easy it is for someone to just photoshop a pokemon and make it look real, so with that and the fact that someone else tried to leak ANOTHER water starter in its last form, I'm just gonna ignore most pokemon rumors, especially ones with such pomegranatety quality like the greninja.

Also at 2:20 it could be the ice whatever wolf pokemon, except this has red eyes. Maybe a gender difference, maybe shiny on one of them or maybe fake (gonna believe that too).

Man, I'm so on edge now only because the greninja rumor came with the no post game rumour, and because of that I have to just believe it and most other "leaked" info is fake, which kinda sucks the fun out of the "rumour/leak sharing" part of the game's release, which I always kinda enjoyed.

Oh well, got pokemon mystery dungeon gates to infinity to hold me till pokemon is out, so w/e

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Probably meant mawile, but still no

Why would they strip mawile (and marill) of their second types?

[video=youtube;NiF9d67kd-o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiF9d67kd-o[/video]

Anyways, in this video we see some more fakemons, but at 3:40 we see how easy it is for someone to just photoshop a pokemon and make it look real, so with that and the fact that someone else tried to leak ANOTHER water starter in its last form, I'm just gonna ignore most pokemon rumors, especially ones with such pomegranatety quality like the greninja.

Also at 2:20 it could be the ice whatever wolf pokemon, except this has red eyes. Maybe a gender difference, maybe shiny on one of them or maybe fake (gonna believe that too).

Man, I'm so on edge now only because the greninja rumor came with the no post game rumour, and because of that I have to just believe it and most other "leaked" info is fake, which kinda sucks the fun out of the "rumour/leak sharing" part of the game's release, which I always kinda enjoyed.

Oh well, got pokemon mystery dungeon gates to infinity to hold me till pokemon is out, so w/e

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The part about the fairy retypings is just very bad wording. they meant the Cleffa line all become pure fairy. Obviously the other pokemon mentioned wouldn't become pure fairy, even fake rumour starters aren't stupid enough to retcon official announcements.

and in regards to the obnoxious grinning mammal pokemon:

An updated list of trademarked Pokémon, which can mean some of these will receive Mega Evolutions.

Bold = Confirmed

High Potential Mega Pokémon:
Volbeat, Charizard, Gengar, Jynx, Gyarados, Ampharos, Scizor, Tyranitar, Gardevoir, Medicham, Banette, Abomasnow, Kyogre, Kecleon, Latias, Latios, Blaziken, Pinsir, Aerodactyl, Houndoom, Groudon, Kangaskhan, Aggron, Plusle, Minun, Sceptile, Blastoise, Rayquaza, Absol, Heracross

Potential Mega Pokémon:
Jirachi, Deoxys, Swampert, Lucario, Chatot, Pachirisu, Cherrim, Torterra, Infernape, Empoleon, Roserade, Drifblim, Lopunny, Carnivine, Mawile, Vaporeon, Ambipom, Wigglytuff, Venusaur, Raichu, Farfetch'd, Dodrio, Snorlax, Mewtwo, Mew (Mega Mewtwo Y maybe?), Lugia, Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Dragonite, Unown, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Ho-Oh, Celebi

The rest is all Unova Pokémon. The only one that isn't on the list that's confirmed is Garchomp.

What do you guys think?