I just bought Metroid : Other M for $13 Brand New

You keep completely missing the point.

I do get your point.

"Why didn't I just get the Varia suit when I walked in the area?"

That's your point in your last post. I can name off countless video games where they do that, starting with DOOM. Metroid : Other M isn't the first to be gay like that.

No the point is that its stupid for Samus to have her upgrades from the start and the only crutch stopping her from using it is Adam saying it is alright. It makes Samus look completely stupid and somewhat lame. What person would not equip a suit that stops you from hurting when faced with extreme conditions when you enter a lava filled area? An idiot.

It would have been better if Samus had never had the Varia Suit or any upgrade for that matter.

No the point is that its stupid for Samus to have her upgrades from the start and the only crutch stopping her from using it is Adam saying it is alright. It makes Samus look completely stupid and somewhat lame. What person would not equip a suit that stops you from hurting when faced with extreme conditions when you enter a lava filled area? An idiot.

It would have been better if Samus had never had the Varia Suit or any upgrade for that matter.

But then that would destroy the difficulty of the game.

See that? That's game design, not logic. If you just hand out stuff the instant you desire it, there's no difficulty. How does that make the game fun? Logic wise, it definitely doesn't make sense... No one in any real situation would do that, but because it's a game, it's stupid to just give everything the instant it's needed.

Yeah, it would probably be better if she started out with nothing, but then that would reduce from the fact that she had just gotten done with the Super Metroid mission and obtained the abilities she did.

Played this game a while ago found it to be kind of difficult at some points to figure out what to do which is fun when you figure out what to do finally. Anyways the story was actually pretty good and I see no problem with it else than using real logic for some scenes which people whine about continuously because the main character isn't a ultra badass who can blow everything up in 2 milliseconds.

Game play is just great actually for mixing action into the metroid formula successfully and the power ups aren't all gained from Adam allowing them some are actually from monsters or bosses, and a few times you don't need permission to activate something really it's also fun to find all the items scattered around the place like in the other games. Quit focusing on the three or so flaws as they don't really matter much to the game and you really sound dumb for just pointing them out continuously lame excuse for bashing a great game...

Quit focusing on the three or so flaws as they don't really matter much to the game and you really sound dumb for just pointing them out continuously lame excuse for bashing a great game...

Liking crappy Japanese melodrama doesn't make your opinion better than mine.

Uh. Its a complete logical problem. No single person in the world fictional or real wouldn't equip a Varia Suit at the moment you enter a situation you need it unless you're an idiot. By the time you actually get to use the Varia Suit, Adam doesn't even offer an explanation why you couldn't use it.

You have but you can't use it. It's completely stupid logic wise. Any sane person would be cursing at the screen at the point in which you're allowed to use the Varia Suit.

Instead of coming up with a Bad story, dialog and shoving Samus's Sexuality down our throats, they should've come up with a plot device that actually disables Samus from using her Upgrades and forcing her to find them all over again.

Uh. Its a complete logical problem. No single person in the world fictional or real wouldn't equip a Varia Suit at the moment you enter a situation you need it unless you're an idiot. By the time you actually get to use the Varia Suit, Adam doesn't even offer an explanation why you couldn't use it.

You have but you can't use it. It's completely stupid logic wise. Any sane person would be cursing at the screen at the point in which you're allowed to use the Varia Suit.

It's also completely stupid logic wise to complain at the game for giving you a sense of difficulty. If you ran through the area with the Vaira suit, you wouldn't have a single chance at death, unless you sat with the Wiimote on the floor as you went to the bathroom and have Samus stand next to an enemy while you piss.

You can't tell me your blood pressure didn't raise by having to rush through the lava filled corridors as your health constantly drained and you had huge enemies trying to kill you. If you felt any kind of excitement, whether positive or negative, in those moments, the game served its purpose. You had fun.

It's also completely stupid logic wise to complain at the game for giving you a sense of difficulty. If you ran through the area with the Vaira suit, you wouldn't have a single chance at death, unless you sat with the Wiimote on the floor as you went to the bathroom and have Samus stand next to an enemy while you piss.

You can't tell me your blood pressure didn't raise by having to rush through the lava filled corridors as your health constantly drained and you had huge enemies trying to kill you. If you felt any kind of excitement, whether positive or negative, in those moments, the game served its purpose. You had fun.

I would have had fun with it because I know I find the Varia Suit at some point in the sector.

I DONT HAVE FUN KNOWING ITS SITTING IN MY INVENTORY AND THAT ADAM WONT AUTHORIZE IT.

I would have had fun with it because I know I find the Varia Suit at some point in the sector.

I DONT HAVE FUN KNOWING ITS SITTING IN MY INVENTORY AND THAT ADAM WONT AUTHORIZE IT.

Then call him an ass'hole and grin when he dies.

Liking crappy Japanese melodrama doesn't make your opinion better than mine.

Your opinion isn't really any better than mine either. I just said I like the game and I dont care about dumb flaws pretty much because I can, just like I am explaining this because I can.

When it all comes down to it, pretend you can't be wrong because its an "opinion". Opinions can't possibly be wrong or have bad logic behind them.

Everything in this universe is indeed a truth the only possible falsehood is nothing.

Quit arguing about a game it's pretty silly, some people like it some people don't.

Shikage I agree with you 100% that if a series wants to continue it should evolve over time. However things SHOULD remain canon to what is known by from series which Other M fails to do. And though I'd rather not make assumptions I think your habits may have very well standardized what you consider the norm in terms of story telling.

Adam is an ass who in NO way shows any sort of compassion to signify him as a "father figure". He was not portrayed as caring and only seemed to be nothing more then a male figure who happened to dominate Samus during her adult life and treats her less then all other solider for being a women. Their relationship rivals that of J.D. and Dr. Cox from scrubs where one only seeks a relationship that is simply not there (I'm referring to the earlier season, I'm aware of how it turned out). In fact Higgs is more of a father figure because he doesn't treat Samus like she's just a weapon or belittle her for being a women (except for his nick name for her, that's more light teasing at best).

This story was clearly written by a person trying to incorporate knowledge of other stories into one with a previous established history completely different from what he was knowledge on (a.k.a it's like Michael Bay trying to write a romance or anything that requires a plot).

Samus is (or was) a very important figure in terms of feminism. She was a bad ass who did not need anyone. Now even if her life is in danger she won't act beyond what is told of her to do, she can not think for herself (EVERY opinion she gives is from Adam's perspective), and has regressed to the point she rivals an abused housewife who justifies their husband actions by saying "she deserves it" or "he knows best".

This is a sad story and at best should left to a bad anime, not a game with an established female character who's been a symbol for a lot of girl gamers and as a personal note I HATE that she's being turned into a "Yoko" (gurren lagann) type of anime character.

I in no way think adding a story is bad, but this is a HORRIBLE story for a character with an established history.

Shippo, Justin, Mark. You all have a right to your opinions. Here's something coming from a person who hasn't played a Metroid game.

Your worthless babble over storyline is pitiful, as in a story makes it inovative. I find it interesting they gave a silent protagonist a voice. HOLY pomegranate! It gives the story emotion and a way to enjoy it in another way possible. Dead Space 2 for example is way better with a vocal actor than a silent actor. It gives it depth and it gives it some story. Other than the occasional nod or grunt.

Other M from a random's standpoint like mine looks interesting and I would play it. And for a second note, you assholes honestly care about feminism when you all said at one point or another, to a girl to go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

And mark if you say you didn't, your a pimento for lying.

Well, the thing is... Adam asked Samus to follow his strict order for the saftey of other life forms, specifically the Humans on the ship.

I know some of it is pretty ridiculous... Other than the part of "Any objections, Adam?" I think if I were Samus, I would have gone against his order sooner, if I knew my life were in danger.

But then it comes down to the fact that it is indeed a video game and is made to have a level of difficulty. Samus being under orders was the way to make the game difficult. We can discuss many, many different ways of how things could have played how, but that's futile. The only thing to do is accept the game for what it is and if you can do that, the game is extremely amazing. It turned out way better than I thought it would after listening to the critics and listening to people tear the hell out of it for so long.

^ top half yes, 3rd paragraph is not my opinion.

That's not even a good comparison Derosis. Isaac Clark did not have two decades worth of characterization built around him. Dead Space 2 adding a voice added personality to an otherwise, very void character. Some games benefit from adding a voice IF it was written well. What if Gordon Freeman had a voice in HL3 and it sounded like some whiney ass plantain with lame lines and a stereotyped personality. Would you want that in your game?

Shippo, Justin, Mark. You all have a right to your opinions. Here's something coming from a person who hasn't played a Metroid game.

Your worthless babble over storyline is pitiful, as in a story makes it inovative. I find it interesting they gave a silent protagonist a voice. HOLY pomegranate! It gives the story emotion and a way to enjoy it in another way possible. Dead Space 2 for example is way better with a vocal actor than a silent actor. It gives it depth and it gives it some story. Other than the occasional nod or grunt.

Other M from a random's standpoint like mine looks interesting and I would play it. And for a second note, you assholes honestly care about feminism when you all said at one point or another, to a girl to go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

And mark if you say you didn't, your a pimento for lying.

LOL?

Get the hell out.

Here's something coming from a person who hasn't played a Metroid game.

You defeated your whole post there.

Well, the thing is... Adam asked Samus to follow his strict order for the saftey of other life forms, specifically the Humans on the ship.

I know some of it is pretty ridiculous... Other than the part of "Any objections, Adam?" I think if I were Samus, I would have gone against his order sooner, if I knew my life were in danger.

But then it comes down to the fact that it is indeed a video game and is made to have a level of difficulty. Samus being under orders was the way to make the game difficult. We can discuss many, many different ways of how things could have played how, but that's futile. The only thing to do is accept the game for what it is and if you can do that, the game is extremely amazing. It turned out way better than I thought it would after listening to the critics and listening to people tear the hell out of it for so long.

Sorry. There is no excuse for the "authorization".

Removing her upgrades through some plot device instead of saying "you're not allowed to use anything until I say it's ok" would have still kept the difficulty while at the same time keeping things logical.

You defeated your whole post there.




Sorry. There is no excuse for the "authorization".

Removing her upgrades through some plot device instead of saying "you're not allowed to use anything until I say it's ok" would have still kept the difficulty while at the same time keeping things logical.

Have you ever been under anyone's orders? If you respect the person, and Samus did HIGHLY, you won't do anything out of turn. Her position was neven more restricive, because she also had respect for the lives of the other federation soldiers, so she didn't want to risk harming them. The weapon usage authorization had logic, since weapons could turn badly, but stuff like the Varia suit only had logic in the fact that it made the game more difficult.

Again, we could talk about how things COULD be different, but there's no point. It is what it is.