Dark knight VS HT.

sac is rough on the middle head and the arms. It depends on which type of swing sac does. Sac still has the 7 different swing/stabs they each have a different range. i would say that on the very closest edge of the platform you hit about 70% of the time with sacrifice. Final attack has a longer range, so sometimes you will miss with sac and hit with final attack. I still think sac is better than crusher for these parts because of the fact sac ignores the wep def.

Anyway, Kalovale, seduce happens a lot, which, on a solo run, takes up a lot of time.

I'm asking for the difference between the normal all-time Seduce and mass Seduce. If mass Seduce is only as frequent as the other, it makes no sense to avoid it at all.

I think I get seduced about an average 2-3 times during legs/tail. During arms, it's like 2-3 times every 3-5min

Can someone give me a final clarification of the order cus I'm so fuckign confused right now.

Tail->Legs->Arms->heads?

Can someone give me a final clarification of the order cus I'm so pineappleign confused right now.

Tail->Legs->Arms->heads?

tail/legs are interchangeable depending on job.

if you don't wanna deal with seduce the entire run, kill arms after wings. it will take a bit more time if you don't. it's personal preference though.

Can someone give me a final clarification of the order cus I'm so fuckign confused right now.

Tail->Legs->Arms->heads?

Tail/legs -> side heads -> wings+arms? I think?

Tail/legs -> side heads -> wings+arms? I think?

I think its tail/legs ->arms/wings(cant really help that)->heads. I'd rather get seduce dead before going through STUNDISPELSTUNDISPELHIMYNAMESPAPALATUSSTUNDISPEL.

you don't get dispelled until actually attacking the left head. so if you start attacking the left head with arms still up, you have the chance to get seduced and dispelled and 1/1ed. you can either take out the seduce and focus on killing heads, or deal with seduce the entire time your attacking heads. if you've never done a solo before, then trust me when i say seduce is the most annoying part. i could never do a run being seduced the entire time.
unless you plan on being in there for 2.5hrs+

Are you saying that once both arms are dead there is no more seduce at all from HT?

Are you saying that once both arms are dead there is no more seduce at all from HT?

He's saying no more mass seduce. Although dont you think, as a drk, crusher does better against multi? I hit about 400k-600k's total on crushers vs my max's on sacrifice, although it is faster, I think crusher, being multi hit would make it all even out after everything said in done. That's regarding to your sac>crush comment.

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There's no Seduce once Arms are down.

And Crusher only evens up with Sacrifice on the hypothetical 2.1b Snail (at least that's what I came up with when I did my calculation before Bigbang rolled around). On HT, it takes 3 mobs to rival Sacrifice.

Dispel, contrary to popular expectation, is not at all frequent in HT. I've encountered maybe 20 Dispels in all my HT career, most of which happened when the group was still young and the left head took a lot longer.

Dispel, contrary to popular expectation, is not at all frequent in HT. I've encountered maybe 20 Dispels in all my HT career, most of which happened when the group was still young and the left head took a lot longer.

Unless you have only HTed under a handful of times, surely that number is greater... I encounter about 4-8 dispels per HT (hour long solos obviously, since you have to wait for the timer for drops) although some of those are due to the black wyverns. The middle head is the one that dispels, not the left...

He's saying no more mass seduce. Although dont you think, as a drk, crusher does better against multi? I hit about 400k-600k's total on crushers vs my max's on sacrifice, although it is faster, I think crusher, being multi hit would make it all even out after everything said in done. That's regarding to your sac>crush comment.

It almost would but the Def really cuts down your crusher damage ALOT at HT, while your sacrifice damage is not changed.

Unless you have only HTed under a handful of times, surely that number is greater... I encounter about 4-8 dispels per HT (hour long solos obviously, since you have to wait for the timer for drops) although some of those are due to the black wyverns. The middle head is the one that dispels, not the left...

It's an understatement indeed, it's normal to see around 1 Dispel per run. I somehow remember being Dispelled even when only left Arm was left, so idk, all the facts I know about HT are now just impressions. It's been quite a long time since I last touched Maple, let alone HT.

It's an understatement indeed, it's normal to see around 1 Dispel per run. I somehow remember being Dispelled even when only left Arm was left, so idk, all the facts I know about HT are now just impressions. It's been quite a long time since I last touched Maple, let alone HT.

Same, I'd like to be able to play a little here at least. Wanted to try and get the para30 book and do pap after BB. Haven't gotten around to playing my character in a while, I didn't even get the full SP resets so I'm stuck with meteor 21.

Are you saying that once both arms are dead there is no more seduce at all from HT?

Here's the general layout for HT since I saw some flaws.

Left/Right Pre-heads cast seduce and 1/1. In the main room, left/right heads 1/1, and once the middle head/left arm get down to about 50% HP, they dispel. Both arms cast seduce on their side of the screen, as mentioned before, even without being attacked. It's only once they get to about 50% that they begin to cast mass seduce, but once you get the arms down, there's no more seduce.

I prefer doing legs > tail > wings > arms > heads, simply because I don't want to be >>> and get seduced <<< with the tail still alive.

This really makes me want to continue my DK to high levels

So close to 120.

Good luck on the solo!
I've HT'd in a private server, and I'm pretty sure you can hit it anywhere with sacrifice.