Khaini downs the bean

Everyone knows the Windian group didn't have hackers, the whole run was recorded.

Wow, a video? So they all showed all there equips and none of them had enhanced hacked items?

Wow, a video? So they all showed all there equips and none of them had enhanced hacked items?

That hack was out after the run happened pretty sure.

Nice try though.

That hack was out after the run happened pretty sure.

Nice try though.

The hack was out the day the Enhancement scrolls was released. And plus it WAS public at that time but only public at specific places, rather not go into details.

The hack was out the day the Enhancement scrolls was released. And plus it WAS public at that time but only public at specific places, rather not go into details.

I'll rephrase then. The hack wasn't widespread until after the run. Your point is still moot. None of the runners had hacked gear.

I'm just poking in to say that we were the first one to beat PB but it was on one of the smaller servers. It has only been beaten in three servers and the oldest and largest server still haven't beaten it. Server size and number of players are irrelevant to organizing and executing a run.

*leaves*

I'll rephrase then. The hack wasn't widespread until after the run.

Just because it's not as widespread as it is now, doesn't mean that none of the runners had access to it or bought an exploited weapon.

Your point is still moot. None of the runners had hacked gear.

So you seen each person inventory before the run started? Don't state what you don't know.

Just because it's not as widespread as it is now, doesn't mean that none of the runners had access to it or bought an exploited weapon.

Would you like to prove that any of the runners had a hacked weapon then? This whole argument is stupid for many reasons. >_>

So you seen each person inventory before the run started?

Pretty damn sure if any of the gear was hacked we would know about it already. It was the first PB kill in GMS. Obviously if there was a single hacked equipment being used on that run someone would make it known.

Don't state what you don't know.

Same to you bro.

Would you like to prove that any of the runners had a hacked weapon then?

Can you prove they didn't? No... nobody knows and nobody every will.

Pretty damn sure if any of the gear was hacked we would know about it already.

It isn't that hard to just not say anything lol. If someone had it, they had it. If nobody did, then cool. Not like it matters now

Wasn't it already ruled out that any pinkbean kills before the big bang and mob PDR overhaul were not really legit? Since the game is practicaly broken from the potential stats as the game is right now.

Can you prove they didn't? No... nobody knows and nobody every will.

This argument is stupid for many reasons. >_>

It isn't that hard to just not say anything lol.

Not when the whole community is so damn concerned over legitimacy.

Neither of you can prove either which way. So unless one of you can otherwise prove that the other is wrong this argument will remain in a constant circle jerk.

I do feel, however, that the fact that they've made it as far as they have in the past pre-dating potential should be testimony enough that their gear was not enhance hacked.

I find it hillarious that all of these questions of legitimacy are coming from the Broan's of all players. Lulz.

I find all of these questions of legitimacy coming from the Broan's of all players. Lulz.

cool generalization there bro. sure broa was one of the most hacker-infested servers a few years ago, but i'm pretty sure windia has been hit much harder by hacked gear than broa. gotta pretend to play legit guys!!!

if any one of you can point out and quote where i stated that they used exploited items, then please do so. all i said in my posts was that you can't prove they didn't use them, and you can't prove they did.

I find all of these questions of legitimacy coming from the Broan's of all players. Lulz.

I'm not sure I understand

NOOOOOOO. Bera and Broa are fucking pathetic.

Yeah....I expected Bera to kill it next followed by Broa or Scania ._.

Dang it sure is getting a bit ugly here, isn't it? At least we can agree on the fact that Khaini is one of the most hacker-infested servers in GMS, so the plausibility that the Khaini run wasn't legit due to said hackers exists.

Yes, that is the best I can contribute to this slippery slope of a thread. :B

Actually theres plenty of legit CZak runs in the server.

i was talking about scania. don't know if it happened in other servers but chaos zhelms went from 900m to 350-400m in a matter of days. :f6:

cool generalization there bro. sure broa was one of the most hacker-infested servers a few years ago, but i'm pretty sure windia has been hit much harder by hacked gear than broa. gotta pretend to play legit guys!!!

I feel this is best answered by one of Broa's own:

Most of us Broans are pretty close-knit, with the exception of a few, but most of the time it's basically all our top players Vs few, but most of the time it's basically all our top players Vs. FM spam hackers who try to get in on the fun and think they can "own us". We don't care much about past histories of one another. One of the main HT leaders used to no delay until like 170, but we all still talk to him and HT together lol. 170, but we all still talk to him and HT together lol

Draw your own conclusions.

if any one of you can point out and quote where i stated that they used exploited items, then please do so. all i said in my posts was that you can't prove they didn't use them, and you can't prove they did.




I'm not sure I understand

Edited for clarification purposes. On my cell phone, so you'll have to excuse my errs.

Refer to post 46. You may not have directly stated that the runners had illegit weapons but it was certainly implied.

I feel this is best answered by one of Broa's own:
Draw your own conclusions.

I feel I'm best fitted to respond to this. :]
The NL he's referring to doesn't attend PB runs. The people who go on the runs all have legit histories. Though everyone has secrets. Trust me when I say I guarantee all the "legit 1st gens" in Windia aren't 100% legit.

Refer to post 46. You may not have directly stated that the runners had illegit weapons but it was certainly implied.

If I implied they had hacked weapons, then I also implied they didn't seeing as I said theres no proof for either argument?

Sweet, PB threads are so predictable. Unprovable legit / illegit argument, JMS player coming out of the woodworks to exclaim that they done did it first and way more legitly, and now we can throw in Coogi being "butthurt", as it were, because he got shut down in the last topic.

The fact is that this was a hacker run. They openly admitted it via smega shortly afterward, CHT was totaled dozens of times, each within minutes of the last during this same period, and there's two guilds mass-producing enhancement exploited equipment who *gasp* were both a part of this run. Beyond that, it can't be proven on Southperry due to the "speak-no-evil" policy, but anyone who plays on Khaini knows the truth. Just like the Windians know the truth about their group. Frankly if you don't play on the server in discussion than you have no place questioning those who are there playing everyday; those who know the truth.

Besides, Khaini wouldn't want to tarnish our reputation by falsely claiming to have defeated PB legitimately when we know for a fact it was a hacked run, which we could easily do. Likewise, we wouldn't claim the group who beat it legitimately was a hacker-group. It makes no sense for Khainians to come on here and make our own server look like a pomegranatehole (which currently it is) for no reason.

This whole legit/illegit thing reminds me of the old 2006/2007 days. Good times... wait, it really wasn't.

It does seem like it's 2006 all over again...