[1.2.304] Strange items...

Infighters already have all of those types of skills though...

Crit from stun mastery. Haste from transform/ST. HP increase type skill from ImHP.

Those new skills would be a nice addition for many classes.

Haste : Speeds up 4 of 5 Adventurers. Don't need to rely on Thieves or Mounts (although theirs is maxed/better).
Mystic Door : God-send for anyone without a Priest/Bishop nearby. Recharging/re-potting without walking back ftw.
Sharp Eyes : Damage boost for everyone is nice. God-send for critical classes. Sucks for Bowman when they reach 4th job.
Hyper Body : More HP/MP (Warriors will love this [unless you're a Spearman/Dk/Drk ]). Godly for ranged as they don't need a Dk/Drk for soloing high damaging bosses. Great for Mages, more HP & MP = easier soloing, no need for a Dk/Drk (again).

Then again, people will complain how the cons will outweigh the pros.

We can't possibly know at this point. It's safer to think that it's +25% damage for now, since +125% would be the most broken thing possible. Of course the chance that these skills are PQ based or have some sort of limitation is extremely high anyway, so it probably doesn't matter.

Are you implying that the stun mastery change is a glitch?

There is no reason to suspect that Stun Mastery is intended to add 300% damage with SE.

Similarly there is no reason to suspect that self SE is intended to add 125%, but it could all the same.

There is no reason to suspect that Stun Mastery is intended to add 300% damage with SE.

There's no reason to suspect that sharp eyes is intended to add 140% damage either. The fact that it happened in two versions simultaneously is reason enough to expect it to be permanent and intended.

Similarly there is no reason to suspect that self SE is intended to add 125%

Except neither of us know that it adds 125% damage.

There's no reason to suspect that sharp eyes is intended to add 140% damage either. The fact that it happened in two versions simultaneously is reason enough to expect it to be permanent and intended.



Except neither of us know that it adds 125% damage.

Three. KMS had proof of it since the beginning of the class' existence.

There's no reason to suspect that sharp eyes is intended to add 140% damage either. The fact that it happened in two versions simultaneously is reason enough to expect it to be permanent and intended.

Doesn't prove anything. There is no randomness in identical code, unless you mean to say that different versions implemented their own rendition of SE from scratch?

Of course it's pretty clear that it does add 140%, and there would be an outcry if it ever changed to 40%, but the skill description still tells us 40%. This one tells us 25%, so who's to say?

Are those dime bags?

@ above: They're weed bags. :3

unless you mean to say that different versions implemented their own rendition of SE from scratch?

? I was referring to the stun mastery change.

Of course it's pretty clear that it does add 140%, and there would be an outcry if it ever changed to 40%, but the skill description still tells us 40%. This one tells us 25%, so who's to say?

There would be an outcry if either SM or SE was reduced. The rings say 10/20%, but they obviously don't add 110/120%. I would think that if it is 125%, that it would be fixed to 25%.

Side note: You're more serious now that you're a mod. Do not want.

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? I was referring to the stun mastery change.

Huh? You were? I thought the discussion was over SE giving Vipers a 200% damage boost being a glitch.

There would be an outcry if either SM or SE was reduced. The rings say 10/20%, but they obviously don't add 110/120%. I would think that if it is 125%, that it would be fixed to 25%.

Maybe. But if they copy and paste from SE, it'll be 125%.

The quote was a little vague. First sentence refers to SE, second refers to SM change.

Maybe. But if they copy and paste from SE, it'll be 125%.

I suppose the only reason that would happen is because it's a nerfed SE, but like i said, it would probably be changed to +25% if they made that mistake.

As much as I'd love self HB / SE on my Night Lord, I think it would be extremely unfair to Dark Knights and Bowmasters if every job has their signature skill, even if it's slightly nerfed. I think if everyone has these skills, we wouldn't need DrKs / BM's as badly and it would take most of the fun out of partying too. Horrible idea IMO. =/

The increase evasion and self hb would put shadowers at god mode. Though i'm all for the range classes having hb at 40% which one still make my hb mule useful. Actually as long as the % increase aren't anywear higher than 10% it should be alright.

In regards to your signature, Nature, you should have a look at the Pareto Principle.

I don't see an evade+ skill.

What are you all talking about.

Apparently Spadow is confused too.

I see images on his blog about a Reverse Staff adding 195 M.ATK and the 2H Sword having 192 W.ATK? The heck? They're fully scrolled, but it obviously doesn't add up under the normal system, so obviously this new system did something major to these weapons.

I think i see now. The change in avoid+acc to % was to test and see what would happen if they tried to change stat types for pre-existing equipments. More importantly, if it would work. If it did, they could proceed to implement this system which revamps the entire equipment system while buffing all pre-existing equipment at the same time.

Also, apparently there's a new client with W7 compatibility.

I think i see now. The change in avoid+acc to % was to test and see what would happen if they tried to change stat types for pre-existing equipments. More importantly, if it would work. If it did, they could proceed to implement this system which revamps the entire equipment system while buffing all pre-existing equipment at the same time.

Also, apparently there's a new client with W7 compatibility.

LF> this in JMS!!! We need it ASAP!!! With the stupid Windows 7 Visual glitches we have in JMS right now, we seriously need a major fix of the client.

In regards to your signature, Nature, you should have a look at the Pareto Principle.

i know of the principle i didn't think nexon Min Kim would follow that rule that is all. I assumed free to play games with purchasable content would run differently.

As for where i seen the evasion increase i was talking about the items that give a increase not a skill.

Are those dime bags?

Weed gives +Int%