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"Acura Cheap" FM Shops
#41
Goals Wrote:The items for sale in "Acura Cheap" shops aren't exactly the best items out there. They could be anyone's shit. I could be lying about where they're from or the shops might not belong to a hacker. Plus, I'm not going to hesitate to buy crap like 10 Atk WGs for 50m (example), or any sort of common cheap crap like that. As for your opinion- I could care less- not my problem people are getting hacked.

If you have access to a permit and you have enough to buy something cheap that's easily resellable, you would be stupid not to buy it. Buying items for mesos, an in-game currency, is not against the TOS or rules or anything. Is it wrong morally? Is some maple saint going to buy them and return the items to their rightful owner? No! 99.99% of the items will be purchased by a merchant and resold for profit.

For someone who constantly whines about being treated like crap (someone stealing your FM spots) you're a pretty big jerk. Seems like you deserve all of that, suddenly.

Guaranteed that if you lost your stuff and one of your best friends bought it because it was cheap and refused to give it back or sold it to you for a massive profit you'd have a hissy fit.

Personal profit should never come before doing the right thing, even if it means a potential loss for you.
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#42
BombsAway Wrote:For someone who constantly whines about being treated like crap (someone stealing your FM spots) you're a pretty big jerk. Seems like you deserve all of that, suddenly.

Guaranteed that if you lost your stuff and one of your best friends bought it because it was cheap and refused to give it back or sold it to you for a massive profit you'd have a hissy fit.

Personal profit should never come before doing the right thing, even if it means a potential loss for you.

LOL, I got my stuff stolen and purchased by a friend. I didn't care so I just paid a good price for the item back :p

Also, I don't know who's hacked items are in the shop so it doesn't matter. Most of them are from randoms. It's called "merchanting."

P.S. I would probably sell the item back for the price I paid if it was MY BEST FRIEND. ONLY IF it was my best friend's. Others, I don't give a craps. I.e. randoms.
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#43
Goals Wrote:LOL, I got my stuff stolen and purchased by a friend. I didn't care so I just paid a good price for the item back :p

Also, I don't know who's hacked items are in the shop so it doesn't matter. Most of them are from randoms. It's called "merchanting."

No, it's called "attempting to justify doing the wrong thing" or "denial."

Merchanting is selling legal goods, not stolen goods. That's called trafficking.
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#44
BombsAway Wrote:No, it's called "attempting to justify doing the wrong thing" or "denial."

Merchanting is selling legal goods, not stolen goods. That's called trafficking.

You don't know if they're stolen goods or not. My own admission doesn't prove they're stolen. I could be wrong and say I bought stuff from a hacker shop, but it was actually from a legit person's shop. How can you tell the difference between a hacker's 58 atk skanda or a legit person's 58 atk skanda?

Also, I said I bought out some stuff from "Acura Cheap" shops. They might or might not be hacker shops. I don't care whether or not they are. Just saying :p

So sue me if I bought stolen items for resale. Might as well ban everyone who abused the pyramid buff too. *I know I was too busy grabbing deals in FM to participate in that*
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#45
Goals Wrote:You don't know if they're stolen goods or not. My own admission doesn't prove they're stolen. I could be wrong and say I bought stuff from a hacker shop, but it was actually from a legit person's shop. How can you tell the difference between a hacker's 58 atk skanda or a legit person's 58 atk skanda?

The difference is about three-hundred million mesos.
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#46
BombsAway Wrote:The difference is about three-hundred million mesos.

nah actually I sold it for a bil more.
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#47
Goals Wrote:The items for sale in "Acura Cheap" shops aren't exactly the best items out there. They could be anyone's shit. I could be lying about where they're from or the shops might not belong to a hacker. Plus, I'm not going to hesitate to buy crap like 10 Atk WGs for 50m (example), or any sort of common cheap crap like that. As for your opinion- I could care less- not my problem people are getting hacked.

If you have access to a permit and you have enough to buy something cheap that's easily resellable, you would be stupid not to buy it. Buying items for mesos, an in-game currency, is not against the TOS or rules or anything. Is it wrong morally? Is some maple saint going to buy them and return the items to their rightful owner? No! 99.99% of the items will be purchased by a merchant and resold for profit.

I agree with this. Yes it does suck to lose everything you have but still a merchant's desire for meso is greater than any morals a person will have in an online game... I've certainly lost billions of meso from merchanting mistakes, giving equips away, and funding hacked friends before myself but I get over the losses quickly. Takes work to remake whatever you lost.

Even if the item is stolen or not, it's still merchanting. I certainly wouldn't hesitate buying something of value for cheap and reselling. If somebody gives me a nice deal, like trading a bunch of duped WS I would certainly take it anyway. I think some people are expecting too much from merchants lol... Morals in an online game where identity is shielded by a monitor? Not gonna happen sorry to say.
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#48
Kevo Wrote:I agree with this. Yes it does suck to lose everything you have but still a merchant's desire for meso is greater than any morals a person will have in an online game... I've certainly lost billions of meso from merchanting mistakes, giving equips away, and funding hacked friends before myself but I get over the losses quickly. Takes work to remake whatever you lost.

Even if the item is stolen or not, it's still merchanting. I certainly wouldn't hesitate buying something of value for cheap and reselling. If somebody gives me a nice deal, like trading a bunch of duped WS I would certainly take it anyway. I think some people are expecting too much from merchants lol... Morals in an online game where identity is shielded by a monitor? Not gonna happen sorry to say.

You took the words from my mouth. F2
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#49
Nope, this isn't it for me. The accounts I use to merchant on were fine. The one the hackers got had a bunch of people who sat next to Huckle waiting for him to give them more rock scrolls (they probably hadn't been to the FM in over a year).
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#50
FINALLY someone sided with me and have morals which this person above your post doesnt posses. That just showing his true character and a human being. For someone who whines about stealing spot and etc. NOW many of you know what type of person he is and everything he has said is completely FALSE
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#51
Aznhoodrat Wrote:FINALLY someone sided with me and have morals which this person above your post doesnt posses. That just showing his true character and a human being. For someone who whines about stealing spot and etc. NOW many of you know what type of person he is and everything he has said is completely FALSE

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Don't need to be in your server to know how fail you are. If only you knew about the Fm in Scania... you wouldn't be able to get your way there. Far more malicious people than that of Bera...
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#52
BombsAway Wrote:For someone who constantly whines about being treated like crap (someone stealing your FM spots) you're a pretty big jerk. Seems like you deserve all of that, suddenly.

Guaranteed that if you lost your stuff and one of your best friends bought it because it was cheap and refused to give it back or sold it to you for a massive profit you'd have a hissy fit.

Personal profit should never come before doing the right thing, even if it means a potential loss for you.


FINALLY someone sided with me and have morals which this person above your post doesn't posses. That just showing his true character and a human being. For someone who whines about stealing spot and etc. NOW many of you know what type of person he is and everything he has said is completely FALSE and irrelevant. Just keep posting Goals with all your lies and BS cause the only person who you care about is YOU which is sad and selfish. I FOR ONCE have stop purchasing items from hacked store in Bera mainly from ppl from Defuse in ch 1 fm1 and to be specific MySwagNL has brag about hacking 6 out 80 accts in bera
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#53
Nice copy paste sir.

Hard to take you seriously, since you just admitted to have bought stuff from Defuse too. Hypocrite much?

Plus, we all know you're here to flame Goals... yeah keep going. Just more entertainment for me~
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#54
lol i said i didnt buy stuff from defuse and will never DO
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#55
Kevo Wrote:Nice copy paste sir.

Hard to take you seriously, since you just admitted to have bought stuff from Defuse too. Hypocrite much?

Plus, we all know you're here to flame Goals... yeah keep going. Just more entertainment for me~

When your able to read what i wrote then feel free to FLAME on and we are aware your one of Goals Peeps
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#56
Aznhoodrat Wrote:When your able to read what i wrote then feel free to FLAME on and we are aware your one of Goals Peeps

Lol, think whatever you want. I don't even know Goals nor do I even play Bera... but from past experience I know you're not exactly a model merchant either.

Keep going though, I throughly enjoy this thread.

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Aznhoodrat Wrote:I FOR ONCE have stop purchasing items from hacked store in Bera mainly from ppl from Defuse in ch 1 fm1 and to be specific MySwagNL has brag about hacking 6 out 80 accts in bera

Doesn't that imply you used to buy stuff from Defuse?
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#57
Kevo Wrote:Lol, think whatever you want. I don't even know Goals nor do I even play Bera... but from past experience I know you're not exactly a model merchant either.

Keep going though, I throughly enjoy this thread.

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Doesn't that imply you used to buy stuff from Defuse?


NO, other shops and i don't support HACKED item shop and wont if i know about it
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#58
Aznhoodrat Wrote:NO, other shops and i don't support HACKED item shop and wont if i know about it

Then why bother merchanting at all. For all you know, the next thing you buy in FM could belong to somebody who's account got hacked.

Wouldn't the model and moral thing to do be to not FM at all? Since it's clearly a crime for you to buy items that don't actually belong to the seller, why risk it and tarnish your reputation?
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#59
Kevo Wrote:Then why bother merchanting at all. For all you know, the next thing you buy in FM could belong to somebody who's account got hacked.

Wouldn't the model and moral thing to do be to not FM at all? Since it's clearly a crime for you to buy items that don't actually belong to the seller, why risk it and tarnish your reputation?


I rarely buy items in FM unless i know when to buy certain items. And also a big difference lies between knowing if those items you bought are hacked and not knowing. Its easy to tell the diff between a hacker store and from a regular JOE's selling in FM's. Also Merchant has two type one who abide by the law & respect other AND then one who don't give a rat azz for where those items are coming from for personal gain.
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#60
Aznhoodrat Wrote:I rarely buy items in FM unless i know when to buy certain items. And also a big difference lies between knowing if those items you bought are hacked and not knowing. Its easy to tell the diff between a hacker store and from a regular JOE's selling in FM's. Also Merchant has two type one who abide by the law & respect other AND then one who don't give a rat azz for where those items are coming from for personal gain.

Just because one group of hackers decides to sell it cheap, doesn't mean they all do no? Unless you have some ultra pro method to determine this?

And lol @ Law & Respect. Like I said, this is an Online Game, not irl... you expect too much from a game like Maple. Imagine a hacker stole somebody's 15 att PAC, smegas that he's going to sell it and opens his mushie. He's selling it for 1 meso. I bet you the very first person to enter that store will purchase it. If he somehow duped it 100 times, I bet you the next 99 people will also buy it instantly. What morals?

Afk, bed f3.
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