Competitive Smash.. lol j/k, Competitive Pokemon.

When in doubt, use Serebii or Bulbapedia. The physical/special split messed me up also when I was playing Heart Gold, since I've never played D/P/Pt. I thought my Red Gyarados would be epic if I put Hyper Beam on it, only to find out it's weak as hell on Gyarados.

What does hyperbeam have to do with the split? Gyrados is a physical attacker and thats why most people use Waterfall instead of Surf on a gyrados. DDos Sweeps like a freaking beast

What does hyperbeam have to do with the split? Gyrados is a physical attacker and thats why most people use Waterfall instead of Surf on a gyrados. DDos Sweeps like a freaking beast

Lol.

3rd gen Gyara was pretty much:

-DD
-EQ
-HP ____
-[insert something useful here]

4th gen changes metagame so much, I stopped playing it. But I loved 3rd gen, since I was most accustomed the metagame of that gen.

I used to play Netbattle. Hell, I used to even host my own server, but it was a "just for fun" thing and was pretty much just for a group of people I knew from forums. Really enjoyed it too, lots of good times.

I never got into Shoddy. I didn't even bother trying it out. I just play the DS games normally and battle whoever over wifi.

Oh, and I usually use Pokemon that I like, regardless of what tier they are. However, it seems a lot of Pokemon I like end up being bumped up in tiers. I liked Aerodactyl before everyone started using it, back when it was UU. I always liked the Porygon family, and made sure to get them in the older games because I thought their concept was cool. What do you know, it turns out to be loved in D/P when its evolution gets a huge boost in Sp.att.

I'm just glad there are still Pokemon on my team that are UU, but as of right now my favorites are mostly OU and BL.

I used to play Netbattle. Hell, I used to even host my own server, but it was a "just for fun" thing and was pretty much just for a group of people I knew from forums. Really enjoyed it too, lots of good times.

I never got into Shoddy. I didn't even bother trying it out. I just play the DS games normally and battle whoever over wifi.

Oh, and I usually use Pokemon that I like, regardless of what tier they are. However, it seems a lot of Pokemon I like end up being bumped up in tiers. I liked Aerodactyl before everyone started using it, back when it was UU. I always liked the Porygon family, and made sure to get them in the older games because I thought their concept was cool. What do you know, it turns out to be loved in D/P when its evolution gets a huge boost in Sp.att.

I'm just glad there are still Pokemon on my team that are UU, but as of right now my favorites are mostly OU and BL.

It doesn't matter if your favorites were in which tier, as long as it isn't UBER-tiers. As long as you can beat an opponent, I think that's what matters. I used mostly OUs, but sometimes, I'll use UU and BLs mostly because I like the Pokemon's appearance.

Ex: SHEDINJA, Scyther, etc.

Believe it or not, even the rarely used Pokemon can still beat a team full of OUs, with the right movesets and stats. I got sweeped by a mono-bug team back then when I played against my friend in class. Guess who wiped out my entire team? I had a team of 1 of everything: Metagross (phys w/ explosion and salac berry), Gardy (spe), Bliss (spe. wall), Skarm (phys. wall), Snorlax (tank), Regirock (phys w/ explosion and Choice Band)

A Scyther wiped out like half of my entire team, for the most part.

-shrug- Basically, whatever works for you.

Found my team and downloaded shoddy. Anyone want to play? PM me, I check SP pretty often.

Khoi, you should try 4th gen if you have time because the split was a good thing. Although you only notice the pokemon pushed to the top, many others have gotten new viable moves.

I'd like to play on DS but having to change from WPA to WEP and then back when I'm done feels like such a hassle. I might give it another try when I get Soul Silver though.

It doesn't matter if your favorites were in which tier, as long as it isn't UBER-tiers. As long as you can beat an opponent, I think that's what matters. I used mostly OUs, but sometimes, I'll use UU and BLs mostly because I like the Pokemon's appearance.

Ex: SHEDINJA, Scyther, etc.

Believe it or not, even the rarely used Pokemon can still beat a team full of OUs, with the right movesets and stats. I got sweeped by a mono-bug team back then when I played against my friend in class. Guess who wiped out my entire team? I had a team of 1 of everything: Metagross (phys w/ explosion and salac berry), Gardy (spe), Bliss (spe. wall), Skarm (phys. wall), Snorlax (tank), Regirock (phys w/ explosion and Choice Band)

A Scyther wiped out like half of my entire team, for the most part.

-shrug- Basically, whatever works for you.

Indeed, some of the lesser used pokemon are underestimated. I find my Absol can completely devastate teams who don't expect too much from it. I thought Absol was pretty cool, and with it getting sucker punch in 4th gen to make up for its crap speed, it can really sweep away.

You know who else I have that tends to take out teams? CHARIZARAD, one of my oldest favorites. I know, LOL FIRE right? At least earthquake doesn't get him. If I can read their switch and find a nice opportunity to get him in, I can set up my substitute and start up my belly drum. From there, Charizard usually takes out everything the opponent sends out. The match usually finishes rather quickly once I get its strategy to work out. The speed boost from its berry, plus the STAB from fire moves, plus Blaze, and a moveset to take out a lot of crap. Even if they're strong against fire, I can find a move that'd most likely OHKO them.

Indeed, some of the lesser used pokemon are underestimated. I find my Absol can completely devastate teams who don't expect too much from it. I thought Absol was pretty cool, and with it getting sucker punch in 4th gen to make up for its crap speed, it can really sweep away.

Absol is really predictable though, SD SD SD, etc

You know who else I have that tends to take out teams? CHARIZARAD, one of my oldest favorites. I know, LOL FIRE right? At least earthquake doesn't get him. If I can read their switch and find a nice opportunity to get him in, I can set up my substitute and start up my belly drum. From there, Charizard usually takes out everything the opponent sends out. The match usually finishes rather quickly once I get its strategy to work out. The speed boost from its berry, plus the STAB from fire moves, plus Blaze, and a moveset to take out a lot of crap. Even if they're strong against fire, I can find a move that'd most likely OHKO them.

One problem, that works only in 4th gen. In 3rd gen, LOLcharizard gets raped by almost everything. So I assumed you meant 4th gen. 3rd Gen Charry was just Belly Drum, Sub, EQ, and HP Flying. <_< . . . . . . Maybe replace HP Flying for Fire Blast or OverHeat, but yeah. Back when I fought Chari on 3rd Gen, I knew the sets, so it wasn't hard. I'd "literally" switch out to Armaldo and just SD+Rock Blast away at Charizard, breaking the Sub and killing it at the same. Made me giggle, since my Armaldo had like maxed HP EVs, some EVs into speed, spe. def, and att.

One problem, that works only in 4th gen. In 3rd gen, LOLcharizard gets raped by almost everything. So I assumed you meant 4th gen. 3rd Gen Charry was just Belly Drum, Sub, EQ, and HP Flying. <_< . . . . . . Maybe replace HP Flying for Fire Blast or OverHeat, but yeah. Back when I fought Chari on 3rd Gen, I knew the sets, so it wasn't hard. I'd "literally" switch out to Armaldo and just SD+Rock Blast away at Charizard, breaking the Sub and killing it at the same. Made me giggle, since my Armaldo had like maxed HP EVs, some EVs into speed, spe. def, and att.

One problem, in 4th gen Charizard gets raped by Stealth Rock, so I guess Spidey is talking about 3rd gen.

If there's one move that changed the metagame, it was Stealth Rock. Or maybe giving Bullet Punch to Scizor.

One problem, in 4th gen Charizard gets raped by Stealth Rock, so I guess Spidey is talking about 3rd gen.

If there's one move that changed the metagame, it was Stealth Rock. Or maybe giving Bullet Punch to Scizor.

STAB w/ Fire + Belly Drum + Salac = does not compute. K, so you get extra damage, Belly Drum activates salac, but there goes 75% of your HP if you count in Sub. . . So you wasted that for a increment in speed, spe. att with fire, and a max boost for att. Anything with STAB'ed QA or ES > that, instantly. Send out CB'ed Arcanine, and even without STAB, it's GG instantly. She might be talking about 3rd Gen, but 3rd Gen Chari is pretty LOLuseless.

Honestly, I'd rather waste a slot for fcking Smeargle. Sub + Spore + Belly Drum + BP into almost anything that has high speed and can physical-sweep really well. O HELLO AERODACTYL.

STAB w/ Fire + Belly Drum + Salac = does not compute. K, so you get extra damage, Belly Drum activates salac, but there goes 75% of your HP if you count in Sub. . . So you wasted that for a increment in speed, spe. att with fire, and a max boost for att. Anything with STAB'ed QA or ES > that, instantly. Send out CB'ed Arcanine, and even without STAB, it's GG instantly. She might be talking about 3rd Gen, but 3rd Gen Chari is pretty LOLuseless.

Honestly, I'd rather waste a slot for fcking Smeargle. Sub + Spore + Belly Drum + BP into almost anything that has high speed and can physical-sweep really well. O HELLO AERODACTYL.

Of course it's not some ultimate combo, otherwise Chari would be used a lot more. But people don't expect it really, unless they know my team beforehand. I usually use it as a late game sweeper, once I've already gotten a feel for most of their team. That way I know what they have that can and can't take out Chari, as well as what pokemon Chari would be able to come in with a substitute without wasting it.

Usually when I play against others, I don't get a look at their team and they don't get a look at mine. I feel its better that way, so you're not analyzing how to counter their team before hand. You work on your feet and come up with a strategy on the fly. I feel its more exciting that way. So, because of that, I can catch people off guard with my Charizard.

By the way, I have a BP Smeargle and do pass to my Aerodactly.

STAB w/ Fire + Belly Drum + Salac = does not compute. K, so you get extra damage, Belly Drum activates salac, but there goes 75% of your HP if you count in Sub. . . So you wasted that for a increment in speed, spe. att with fire, and a max boost for att. Anything with STAB'ed QA or ES > that, instantly. Send out CB'ed Arcanine, and even without STAB, it's GG instantly. She might be talking about 3rd Gen, but 3rd Gen Chari is pretty LOLuseless.

Honestly, I'd rather waste a slot for fcking Smeargle. Sub + Spore + Belly Drum + BP into almost anything that has high speed and can physical-sweep really well. O HELLO AERODACTYL.

Stealth Rock: Charizard gets 50% taken away as soon as he gets onto the field.


He can't even use Belly Drum.

Of course it's not some ultimate combo, otherwise Chari would be used a lot more. But people don't expect it really, unless they know my team beforehand. I usually use it as a late game sweeper, once I've already gotten a feel for most of their team. That way I know what they have that can and can't take out Chari, as well as what pokemon Chari would be able to come in with a substitute without wasting it.

Usually when I play against others, I don't get a look at their team and they don't get a look at mine. I feel its better that way, so you're not analyzing how to counter their team before hand. You work on your feet and come up with a strategy on the fly. I feel its more exciting that way. So, because of that, I can catch people off guard with my Charizard.

By the way, I have a BP Smeargle and do pass to my Aerodactly.

If you put it that way, makes sense. When I played NB, I went for the "Instant annihilation" sorta strategy, I crush their team immediately. Of course, my strategy is pineappleing unbelievably predictable, if you can't counter Umbreon -> Aero, it's like "Why do you play NB in the first place", ya know?

Let me see if I can remember the stats:

Umbreon @ Lefties
252 HP/ 126 def/132 spe def EVs
Bold nature (+def, -att) <- I think...
-Rest
-Baton Pass
-Curse
-Mean Look

BP onto:

Aerodactyl @ White Herb (nulls negative side-effects of stats only once, with this, I don't get speed subtracted because of Curse)
252 speed, 252 att, 6 HP
Jolly nature (+ speed, -spe att)
Ability: Rock Head (in conjunction with Double-Edge for no recoil)
-Double Edge (120 base att)
-Aerial Ace (won't miss even if opponent EVADE-WHORES, and FCKYEAH STAB)
-EQ
-Rock Slide (FCKYEAH STAB)

Only way I get gg'ed is as if they send out Skarm, Cune, or MAYBE Snorlax. Sometimes, some amazing fcktard sends out a high HP and high DEF Steelix that can survive EQ, just to make me rage. Almost everything else in 3rd gen got raped by this. But the Umbreon-game is really counterable.

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