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LAST SLOT FAILED, F[SIZE="2"]U[/SIZE]CK. WHY DOES ONE 60% ALWAYS FAIL.
Two 30%'s and four 60%'s.
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[COLOR="Green"]Does this count?
2 60% Failed.
Chaos took away all the Str.
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DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="Green"]Does this count?
2 60% Failed.
Chaos took away all the Str.
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Lol you scrolled a failbug 
Such a waste  [/COLOR]
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Dyxanije Wrote:LAST SLOT FAILED, F[SIZE="2"]U[/SIZE]CK. WHY DOES ONE 60% ALWAYS FAIL.
Two 30%'s and four 60%'s.
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Wow...hammer that and slap on 2 PA GM scrolls and that's an end game PA.
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Takebacker Wrote:Wow...hammer that and slap on 2 PA GM scrolls and that's an end game PA.
Emphasizing this point, I gave up a 122 chelbird to use a 104 karstan. They rule. Only using an Arcglaive because it's normal speed as well, but stronger. But 103 att on a lv 64 polearm is pretty damned godly. I'm probably going to stick with a Super Snowboard whenever I can 100% hit things though. Oh, and he's welcome to buy PA GM scrolls now, I have 6 and intend to either land 3 30s or white scroll + 10s a Bain Polearm when they are released, followed by 6 PA GMs.
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MasPan Wrote:Emphasizing this point, I gave up a 122 chelbird to use a 104 karstan. They rule. Only using an Arcglaive because it's normal speed as well, but stronger. But 103 att on a lv 64 polearm is pretty damned godly. I'm probably going to stick with a Super Snowboard whenever I can 100% hit things though. Oh, and he's welcome to buy PA GM scrolls now, I have 6 and intend to either land 3 30s or white scroll + 10s a Bain Polearm when they are released, followed by 6 PA GMs.
I would just aim for 2 30s. 3 30s are hard as hell to land. ;-; You can end up selling the extra GM scroll for 10x more than what it's worth now when arans come out.
Unless you want to hammer it too.
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Takebacker Wrote:Wow...hammer that and slap on 2 PA GM scrolls and that's an end game PA. I want to do that but I am too poor to convert enough mesos into NX for the Hammers. I'll have to wait.
MasPan Wrote:Emphasizing this point, I gave up a 122 chelbird to use a 104 karstan. They rule. Only using an Arcglaive because it's normal speed as well, but stronger. But 103 att on a lv 64 polearm is pretty damned godly. I'm probably going to stick with a Super Snowboard whenever I can 100% hit things though. Oh, and he's welcome to buy PA GM scrolls now, I have 6 and intend to either land 3 30s or white scroll + 10s a Bain Polearm when they are released, followed by 6 PA GMs.
Do you have two extra Pole Arm GM scrolls? After I scrolled that I was like "Damn, I should of saved that GM scroll."
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]
Lol you scrolled a failbug 
Such a waste [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]That Failbug is 124 att, so I consider it decent. Btw, I'm gonna go buy up all the PA 30% in the fm so you can never scroll a purple surfboard!
Btw, thanks for convincing Henry that my ST is my life, and I'm not gonna risk losin that.[/COLOR]
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Takebacker Wrote:I would just aim for 2 30s. 3 30s are hard as hell to land. ;-; You can end up selling the extra GM scroll for 10x more than what it's worth now when arans come out.
Unless you want to hammer it too. 
[color="#cc8899"]That is the idea. 3 10/30 = +15att, 9str, 3wdef (24 relevant stats, 27 total)
6 100% GM is another 12 and 12 (24 stats)
Total, that's +48 relevant stats (27att 21str) 50 total (27/21/3).
On a Bain PA, average 86 (let's assume I get a 2 above, so 88)
88 + 27 = 115att, 21str, 3wdef, fast (4), or about equivalent to pure sex on a stick.[/COLOR]
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]That is the idea. 3 10/30 = +15att, 9str, 3wdef (24 relevant stats, 27 total)
6 100% GM is another 12 and 12 (24 stats)
Total, that's +48 relevant stats (27att 21str) 50 total (27/21/3).
On a Bain PA, average 86 (let's assume I get a 2 above, so 88)
88 + 27 = 115att, 21str, 3wdef, fast (4), or about equivalent to pure sex on a stick.[/COLOR]
Did you ever find out how to even get a bain PA in the first place?
Balrog boss will become of extreme interest to me if it's easy to get. (if it's just a drop i'll just balrog boss all day)
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Takebacker Wrote:Did you ever find out how to even get a bain PA in the first place?
Balrog boss will become of extreme interest to me if it's easy to get. (if it's just a drop i'll just balrog boss all day)
[color="#cc8899"]Same. Either way, I'm gonna be doing everything I have to to get one ASAP when we get him. Hell, PA DrKs will probably be a valuable attacker there (2nd job only means Power Strike + FA + 3/2 ratio has PA DrKs being more useful than Spear, with FAless hybrids even farther below the curve. Berserk is passive and should still work as well, and Beholder could presumably be summoned BEFORE entering as it lasts 20minutes. HB can also be provided for major win).
Also, I will keep my Arcglaive for situations where I may have SI (SI + normal 6 + booster still results in faster (2)) to take advantage of its higher base attack. 7 attack isn't much of a drop for a 2 speed increase, especially considering it makes any other attack bonus (cape and gloves as well as BotF, Dragon Blood/Beholder Hex) that much more valuable as well. I may eventually fully white scroll/10% one if Pieces of Time retain their high value, as 30 PoT is roughly equal to 1 white scroll.[/COLOR]
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]Same. Either way, I'm gonna be doing everything I have to to get one ASAP when we get him. Hell, PA DrKs will probably be a valuable attacker there (2nd job only means Power Strike + FA + 3/2 ratio has PA DrKs being more useful than Spear, with FAless hybrids even farther below the curve. Berserk is passive and should still work as well, and Beholder could presumably be summoned BEFORE entering as it lasts 20minutes. HB can also be provided for major win).
Also, I will keep my Arcglaive for situations where I may have SI (SI + normal 6 + booster still results in faster (2)) to take advantage of its higher base attack. 7 attack isn't much of a drop for a 2 speed increase, especially considering it makes any other attack bonus (cape and gloves as well as BotF, Dragon Blood/Beholder Hex) that much more valuable as well. I may eventually fully white scroll/10% one if Pieces of Time retain their high value, as 30 PoT is roughly equal to 1 white scroll.[/COLOR]
Nah, passive skills turn off too. Burst fire turns to double fire again, so berserk will likely not work. I would think buccs would be one of the strongest, considering FF is as fast/faster (i don't remember what's faster) than PS with a fast (4) speed.
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Takebacker Wrote:Nah, passive skills turn off too. Burst fire turns to double fire again, so berserk will likely not work. I would think buccs would be one of the strongest, considering FF is as fast/faster (i don't remember what's faster) than PS with a fast (4) speed.
[color="#cc8899"]RAAAAAAAAGE. Oh well, suppose it's fair. Regardless, PA attack formula + beholder (it doesn't get dispelled by anything but time) + FA is still pretty impressive. That and I have HB, so I'm for the most part guaranteed a spot regardless (esp if for w/e reason there are "buyer" runs of some sort (pay for boss kills if you need xx kills for ___ item or people that come to loot items).
Can you confirm this though? Burst fire is still technically an active skill, so there may be a difference.[/COLOR]
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]RAAAAAAAAGE. Oh well, suppose it's fair. Regardless, PA attack formula + beholder (it doesn't get dispelled by anything but time) + FA is still pretty impressive. That and I have HB, so I'm for the most part guaranteed a spot regardless (esp if for w/e reason there are "buyer" runs of some sort (pay for boss kills if you need xx kills for ___ item or people that come to loot items).
Can you confirm this though? Burst fire is still technically an active skill, so there may be a difference.[/COLOR]
Apparently it just drops from the boss.
Burst fire is technically an active skill but it's a passive boost to double fire. o.o
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Takebacker Wrote:Apparently it just drops from the boss. 
Burst fire is technically an active skill but it's a passive boost to double fire. o.o
[color="#cc8899"]I know, but it may have a difference somewhere (Nexon's done dumber things) compared to things like Elemental Resistance or Berserk.
And if there's a pic in there, please tinypic and post, SW doesn't work here at work.
Also, Bellocanians, expect to see me either soloing or farming this boss with parties at every available oppurtunity until I have a 103+ 4slot unhammered Bain PA.[/COLOR]
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]I know, but it may have a difference somewhere (Nexon's done dumber things) compared to things like Elemental Resistance or Berserk.
And if there's a pic in there, please tinypic and post, SW doesn't work here at work.[/COLOR]
Thread contains spadow saying it just drops from him.
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Takebacker Wrote:Thread contains spadow saying it just drops from him.
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Eww below average.
Also, I can't remember what the bottom text is, I think it was a chance at a status effect?[/COLOR]
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MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]
Eww below average.
Also, I can't remember what the bottom text is, I think it was a chance at a status effect?[/COLOR]
Looks like it's 5% chance for 10 second poison.
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Takebacker Wrote:Looks like it's 5% chance for 10 second poison.
And 300 damage per hit...eww...(unless that's mana cost, in which case double eww)
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MasPan Wrote:And 300 damage per hit...eww...(unless that's mana cost, in which case double eww)
Yeah it's 300 damage per hit. :/ There's a possibility that the status effects are randomly assigned though, so if you get lucky you could get one that can stun which would rule.
Also, spadow says you need a squad to enter. No soloing this dude. :[
Also: "When Balrog was released, you needed the Hero's Gladius sword in order to fight Balrog. But later they removed this requirement because a lot of people complained about it."
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