Ask a Thief Thread.

I was wondering if Gust(its like Rush right?) would be more useful than the explosion thing.

Leave out taunt because it's taunt...

Why leave out Taunt? It's usefull for bosses..:f6:

I was wondering if Gust(its like Rush right?) would be more useful than the explosion thing.

It's not like rush. It doesn't fling you to the right, just the mobs. It's a useful knockback and it gets them all next to eachother for Shuriken but thats about it.

Why leave out Taunt? It's usefull for bosses..:f6:

I wouldn't consider extra EXP and drop rate "useful". And anyways its only 1.3x I think. The drop rate part is arguable, but still I feel it more useful to put those points into something more useful.

Why leave out Taunt? It's usefull for bosses..:f6:

Taunt doesn't work on bosses afaik, unless that was part of the revamp.

The dual blade revamp comes out with hilla and aswan, right?

No, it comes out later as its own event, Return of the Dual Blade. Don't expect it til some time after summer. There was a small DB revamp with the rest of the thieves during this patch though, we lost the worthless owl, but got Channel Karma, Physical Training and Sudden Raid as well as had some skills changed between jobs.

I was wondering if Gust(its like Rush right?) would be more useful than the explosion thing.

Not like Rush because it doesn't work on bosses, but it does work on Theme Dungeon mobs (LHC/SH/Monster Park). Ninja Storm couldn't do that. You should be able to max both while leaving TT at 2 at the end of 3rd job.

Why leave out Taunt? It's usefull for bosses..:f6:

It never worked on bosses or Theme Dungeon mobs (our LHC/SH/Monster Park).

It never worked on bosses or Theme Dungeon mobs (our LHC/SH/Monster Park).

Taunt's drop rate effect worked on bosses until, I believe, Ascension.

Taunt's drop rate effect worked on bosses until, I believe, Ascension.

Really? I only had level 20 Taunt, but I don't recall it making much of a difference at Zak.

Really? I only had level 20 Taunt, but I don't recall it making much of a difference at Zak.

It consistently dropped more helms in Scarga (also made Scarga drop SE20 twice, something I've only ever seen happen with Taunt) and Zakum. I never really tested it to the extent that I should have, but I believe its drop rate actually did work.

Taunt's drop rate effect worked on bosses until, I believe, Ascension.

No. Taunt NEVER worked on bosses, ever.

No. Taunt NEVER worked on bosses, ever.

Uh, OK then.

So, how's everyone liking their Post-Justice thieves?

No, it comes out later as its own event, Return of the Dual Blade. Don't expect it til some time after summer. There was a small DB revamp with the rest of the thieves during this patch though, we lost the worthless owl, but got Channel Karma, Physical Training and Sudden Raid as well as had some skills changed between jobs.

In KMS, hilla was not part of the aswan update, she came with the db revamp.
It is already confirmed that TMS is getting aswan+hilla+db update as part 3 of their justice, and based on the teaser on the gms site, i can say that we're getting hilla as part 3 too, which implies db revamp.

So, how's everyone liking their Post-Justice thieves?

NL's became stronger, but looks a ton cheaper. They went from being a pretty cool looking class to lame Naruto clones. How the hell can they take out Avenger, the best looking attack in the entire game, and replace it with the firey kunai trash?
I do love the passives and buffs they got though.

In KMS, hilla was not part of the aswan update, she came with the db revamp.
It is already confirmed that TMS is getting aswan+hilla+db update as part 3 of their justice, and based on the teaser on the gms site, i can say that we're getting hilla as part 3 too, which implies db revamp.

Son of a gun, you are right. I thought Hilla came out, followed by an event patch and then DB. I hope GMS follows suit and does not do another Pirate manuever.

So, how's everyone liking their Post-Justice thieves?

Need more %LUK. I like Quad Throw, and I don't like the skills cast time and how they are almost all just random crap floating around your head. For dark harmony, why does a swiring ball of black ist have to appear above me? Why can't I be engulfed in a black mist or have black rings circle around me or something, I just hate the skills like that. Ah well, at least the skill is what matters, not what it looks like. I personally feel that I have to recast a lot, but maybe it's just me.

My shadower feel slower

He should be more powerful right now, except I can't get the stupid dagger mastery skillbook from the admin -____-

I feel awkward training on my shad, I just don't understand if how they expected us to train. Are you supposed to just hold BS and wait the delay out? Are you supposed to link assaulter into it? Do you jump while doing that? Ugh I miss BoT, and I miss assaulter jumping, but I like that my range went up almost 40%

I feel awkward training on my shad, I just don't understand if how they expected us to train. Are you supposed to just hold BS and wait the delay out? Are you supposed to link assaulter into it? Do you jump while doing that? Ugh I miss BoT, and I miss assaulter jumping, but I like that my range went up almost 40%

Midnight Carnival + BS, explode.

So, how's everyone liking their Post-Justice thieves?

It's pretty good. Trying to get over the need of Drain since I don't want to hunt for Vampire. Not really liking the slow casting animation on Haste, Shadow Stars, and Dark Serenity. The +10 speed on Dark Sight should be able to stack alongside Haste so you don't have to cast it again after exiting Dark Sight each time.

The +10 speed on Dark Sight should be able to stack alongside Haste so you don't have to cast it again after exiting Dark Sight each time.

It's a bitch for Shadowers who use it for Assassinate.