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WillDaSnail Wrote:So um, anyone have tips/pointers for playing Trydamere?
(besides being aggressive in teamfights )
All I know is that he can be jungled relatively well, however his ganking ability is somewhat mediocre.
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Phoenix Wright Wrote:All I know is that he can be jungled relatively well, however his ganking ability is somewhat mediocre.
How do people go about doing this? I could sure help free up a solo lane for someone.
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shouri Wrote:Wait... wriggles? curious on this one.. why?
>Pineapple' Wrote:Wriggle's is bad on ashe. Only ranged ad I can see it being good on are ez, maybe twitch, xin, and a few others outside of the jungle.
Wards, lifesteal, AD, armour. Basically all the stats I lack in when I play Ashe.
@ the defensive items situation, get whatever you need whenever. You don't necessarily have to build an entire Banshee's, just the Negatron Cloak goes a long way.
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WillDaSnail Wrote:How do people go about doing this? I could sure help free up a solo lane for someone.
http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/...uide.xhtml
I would recommend dropping the crit quints and some marks for enough ArPen to reduce jungle creeps to 0 armor. Also, the Crit Seals/AS Glyphs aren't really too necessary. If you haven't got em, Armor Seals and CDR Glyphs will do fine.
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Phoenix Wright Wrote:http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/...uide.xhtml
I would recommend dropping the crit quints and some marks for enough ArPen to reduce jungle creeps to 0 armor. Also, the Crit Seals/AS Glyphs aren't really too necessary. If you haven't got em, Armor Seals and CDR Glyphs will do fine.
>>Leaguecraft
>LOLOL
Try this guide http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=231
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Dark Link Wrote:>>Leaguecraft
>LOLOL
Try this guide http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=231
I understand your skepticism, but I tried it and it works relatively well
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Purplefire44 Wrote:>>Solomid
>LOLOL
Try this guide http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legend...ngle-86251
You think I'm kidding? Leaguecraft and MOBAfire are fucking HORRENDOUS. I don't even know why you're giving Will terrible guides in the first place.
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Awww, the top rated guides aren't that bad.
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Dark Link Wrote:You think I'm kidding? Leaguecraft and MOBAfire are pineappleing HORRENDOUS. I don't even know why you're giving Will terrible guides in the first place.
Cool opinion bro.
IMO Mobafire works. They all work, and its up to the person interested in them to choose a favourite. Not you.
Btw, both routes and items are the same. So whatever.
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You can't really just assume that every single guide on a site is bad >_>
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Phoenix Wright Wrote:You can't really just assume that every single guide on a site is bad >_>
It wouldn't be a big deal if majority of the guides actually didn't suck the big one. Most guides tell you to build "Glass Cannon", which is horrible.
Purplefire44 Wrote:Cool opinion bro.
IMO Mobafire works. They all work, and its up to the person interested in them to choose a favourite. Not you.
Btw, both routes and items are the same. So whatever.
Only the bads will give two pomegranates at the guides on MOBA and LC. If you really want me to believe that they offer "decent" guides, then you're bad at LoL for following such terrible guides in the first place.
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Dark Link Wrote:It wouldn't be a big deal if majority of the guides actually didn't suck the big one. Most guides tell you to build "Glass Cannon", which is horrible.
Only the bads will give two pomegranates at the guides on MOBA and LC. If you really want me to believe that they offer "decent" guides, then you're bad at LoL for following such terrible guides in the first place.
Dunno man, you're challenging a level 30 on this. A lot of guides on those sites are bad I suppose, but that's why you don't follow them and that's why you follow the 90%+ guides.
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Dark Link Wrote:It wouldn't be a big deal if majority of the guides actually didn't suck the big one. Most guides tell you to build "Glass Cannon", which is horrible.
Only the bads will give two pomegranates at the guides on MOBA and LC. If you really want me to believe that they offer "decent" guides, then you're bad at LoL for following such terrible guides in the first place.
Sorry for not making myself clear.
It is up to Will to decide which guide he uses.
Your opinion does not make a guide "bad" or "good."
Just because a guide comes from a site, that doesn't mean its bad. I bet you're a racist IRL (jk)
Edit: I like how your guide has [hidden] dislikes.
Edit: Also, maybe glass cannons aren't for you. Played correctly, glass cannons can own.
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You're doing it wrong if you follow a build to a T. I looked at Ashe builds and then made my own. I looked at Shen builds and realized you can't really have a build for a tank. I looked at Vlad builds and then made my own. I sort of haphazardly guessed at items Mundo needs, but guides did help with that.
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Purplefire44 Wrote:SEdit: I like how your guide has [hidden] dislikes.
Edit: Also, maybe glass cannons aren't for you. Played correctly, glass cannons can own.
Glass cannons only work for so long. Sure you can do massive damage, but if the opposing team has any brains, they'll just focus you down first, because you have no defensive items whatsoever.
Corn Wrote:Dunno man, you're challenging a level 30 on this. A lot of guides on those sites are bad I suppose, but that's why you don't follow them and that's why you follow the 90%+ guides.
Levels =/= Skill.
Levels = Experience.
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:You're doing it wrong if you follow a build to a T. I looked at Ashe builds and then made my own. I looked at Shen builds and realized you can't really have a build for a tank. I looked at Vlad builds and then made my own. I sort of haphazardly guessed at items Mundo needs, but guides did help with that.
Except guides are just that. They "guide" you on how to build a certain champion against certain comps and what's recommended. That's how I see guides, at least. I mean obviously after a while you can freely modify it on your own to see which works well for you.
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Dark Link Wrote:Glass cannons only work for so long. Sure you can do massive damage, but if the opposing team has any brains, they'll just focus you down first, because you have no defensive items whatsoever.
Levels =/= Skill.
Levels = Experience.
Except guides are just that. They "guide" you on how to build a certain champion against certain comps and what's recommended. That's how I see guides, at least. I mean obviously after a while you can freely modify it on your own to see which works well for you.
So you admit that I have more experience, and you're still arguing about an opinion?
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I sniff a Hasaio vs Purplefire44 fight at mid D=.
Speaking of mid, anyone want to do a ARAM (all random all mid, yeah self explanatory) game this weekend? It'll probably be a 3 v 3, but it can be a 5 v 5 if we can get enough people.
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Dark Link Wrote:Only the bads will give two pomegranates at the guides on MOBA and LC. If you really want me to believe that they offer "decent" guides, then you're bad at LoL for following such terrible guides in the first place.
1.) Discover which guides Dark Link thinks are good.
2.) Copy the guides.
3.) Post them on LC and MOBA.
4.) ???
5.) Profit!
6.) You're not too bright are you. I'm not disputing the fact that there are bad guides (yeah some of them are horrendous). But ignorance can be quite a fiend too. Mix and match what you and the guides think are good ideas, and then apply accordingly to your elo. Remember that difficulty is relative, and that some things that are glorious in high elo are absolute crap in mid elo.
7.) I don't want to believe this is your know-all end-all statement.
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Purplefire44 Wrote:So you admit that I have more experience, and you're still arguing about an opinion?
Having more experience doesn't make you better at the game, or did you miss the part where I said "Level =/= Skill"?
KajitiSouls Wrote:1.) Discover which guides Dark Link thinks are good.
2.) Copy the guides.
3.) Post them on LC and MOBA.
4.) ???
5.) Profit!
I'm pretty sure you're joking, but it's nice to know you encourage plagiarism lol
Quote:6.) You're not too bright are you. I'm not disputing the fact that there are bad guides (yeah some of them are horrendous). But ignorance can be quite a fiend too. Mix and match what you and the guides think are good ideas, and then apply accordingly to your elo. Remember that difficulty is relative, and that some things that are glorious in high elo are absolute crap in mid elo.
7.) I don't want to believe this is your know-all end-all statement.
I've already mentioned that guides are only there to help you and not be the "FOLLOW THIS OR YOU SUCK" type of deal. Otherwise my Xin build would be "Glass Cannon" until late game, because the guide I read told me to build Ghostblade and Cleaver (And possibly Thirster) before even thinking about going defensive items.
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