When is it okay for a man to hit a woman?

If a man hits a man, it's not that big a deal.

If a man hits a woman, the klaxon sounds and the bomb has been dropped.

Chris Brown should be judged based on his action, and not the fact he hit a woman, because that's just asking for bias up the wazoo. In my case, if it's indeed the case of herpes AND she lied to him, that CAN warrant a hit but I am not the judge of that. After all, guys have beaten each other up over more insignificant things. Things like the double standard simply piss me off.

If some crazy bit'ch came after you with a knife, are you "men" gonna stand there and let her gut you like a freshly caught Koi? (dohoho) No, you're gonna slap a ho, and kick her into the ground until she's no longer a threat.

Well, it's kinda the guys dumbass fault for hanging around with crazy bit'ches with knifes. >_> Date sane people, not psycho, schitzophrenic people.

Well, it's kinda the guys dumbass fault for hanging around with crazy bit'ches with knifes. >_> Date sane people, not psycho, schitzophrenic people.

Who said he was hanging around with her? Sounds more like a scenario where he was walking around minding his own business when that happened.

Well, it's kinda the guys dumbass fault for hanging around with crazy bit'ches with knifes. >_> Date sane people, not psycho, schitzophrenic people.

You're splitting hairs, my friend. You and I know you'd do everything in your power to defend yourself, which includes beating her ass.

Thus, that is when its okay to strike a woman. Also, when she gives you herpes.

You're splitting hairs, my friend. You and I know you'd do everything in your power to defend yourself, which includes beating her ass.

Thus, that is when its okay to strike a woman. Also, when she gives you herpes.

Hmph, I guess your right.. scratch what I said, I'll be a hypocrite tonight.
If the situation did spark up where this girl started a fight with me, I'd probably defend myself.

I still would think it's wrong, but whatever keeps me to live what I want to live for

I think 'real men' wouldn't hit females, that's just stupid and immorral. Sure, we should try to treat females like equals in terms of job opportunities, but that doesn't mean we can treat them like other tough muscular men out there. Females have less body mass-muscles and are physical weaker (proven). They're not punching bags. :|

I agree. I once had a discussion about this (which ended up 2 people hating me) and I had a very similar point of view. Women stereotypically have their natural abilities, and so are guys. We need to learn to complement each other rather than comparing each others. Hitting someone IMO is just a sore way of saying "I have power". Having said that however, I dont really know what happened with Chris Brown and Rhiana (sp?), so they get my benefit of doubt.

ophet is in the right here, you cant say never. there might come a time that you will have to slap a ho a couple to save your life. now i dont agree with random violence, be it to women, children or other men. not because women are weaker or whatever, women want equality they want and deserve the same rights but also the same punishment.

now i hope i dont have to slap a chick however if i have to ill do it and live with the stigma of being a "beater" perhaps is my machismo as a latino or i am just being real here. btw i know girls that are scarier than the freaking chupacabras, not ugly, simple physically and personality wise strong. i dont go for this weak sex, strong sex crap. girls, guys, same crap if a guy deserves a kick in the face and you dont do it you a papaya (i actually wrotte the fruit and saved sp work) how come the same thing doesnt apply to females even though we are equal?

if women are not better or worse than men then just like us they should get their just desserts. however, i say dont punch their faces if they pretty.

So. Why do many of you assume that men are "violent aggressors" and only hit women through bad temper? Chris Brown had a good reason to hit the girl. Thus, he hit her.

I find it very amusing how society makes it that men hitting women is suddenly a crime, when women have "every" right to hit men, "just because women are weaker". Pathetic.

I find that feminism is mostly a farce. In pretty much every discussion I've had with feminists, they're really not about equality. They're about gaining power and being superior to men. By that, I mean that they essentially always want equality where they currently don't have it, but they won't concede perks that women already have over men in several places (such as that ridiculous "give up the bus seat to a random girl" comment above in the thread). The end result is that they're not looking for equality, they're looking to reverse the status quo (which, admittedly, isn't perfect either)

I personally believe in equality. I would give up my bus seat to the 5+ month pregnant woman, just like I would to an elderly gentleman because they both need it more than I do. A simple yet semi-common example: I am truly not impressed if a date waits for me to get out of the car, go around and open the door for her. She's not incapable or handicapped, so why the heck is she acting like it? It's not like being a girl makes it impossible for her to open her own door... I'm not looking for someone that's purposely being a burden; I'm looking for a best friend, camaraderie and lover all wrapped up into 1 person. (cue cheesy music, right? )

To answer Throws' question and to tie into the thread a bit more... It's practically never ok for a guy to hit a girl for the simple reason that it's practically never ok for anyone to hit anyone else. Defense is pretty much the only excuse, whether it's to protect yourself or someone else. In this case, the fact that women are generally considered physically weaker has no bearing on right or wrong whatsoever because it's already flat out wrong, even if it's not a woman.

Well at school me and my freinds talked about it, and other joking around and saying he put a new meaning to "Take you down" and that he was lucky she didn't headbutt him, (forehead joke) that it was probly the first thing that came to him to do out of anger. I mean i've seen and spoke with chris (for all of 5 seconds) and even though he did have kind of a stank attitude, I didn't expect him to hit her or anythings ._.

When it's a life and death situation, and a crazy peach is trying to kill you, well, then of course you'd retaliate. But if you got mad and beated her up, pineapple no. >_> Most I'd do is probaling twist her arms and snap it along with her spine, I wouldn't do much (assuming that it's a crazy peach trying to kill me, yes). But under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hit a lady. <____<

When it's a life and death situation, and a crazy peach is trying to kill you, well, then of course you'd retaliate. But if you got mad and beated her up, pineapple no. >_> Most I'd do is probaling twist her arms and snap it along with her spine, I wouldn't do much (assuming that it's a crazy peach trying to kill me, yes). But under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hit a lady. <____<

Sup, Khoi. Some chick willingly gave you herpes. Your plantain is forever tainted. You'll never be able to experience the joys of unprotected sex ever again. (Unless you wish to pass it along as well.) You're telling me you wouldn't rough her up?

I'm not saying I'd hit a woman because she forgot to cook me dinner, but there is a line that can be crossed.

Sup, Khoi. Some chick willingly gave you herpes. Your plantain is forever tainted. You'll never be able to experience the joys of unprotected sex ever again. (Unless you wish to pass it along as well.) You're telling me you wouldn't rough her up?

I'm not saying I'd hit a woman because she forgot to cook me dinner, but there is a line that can be crossed.

At least someone's realistic here, even though I like to deny it, I'd be mad.
I've never been in a situation like that, so I couldn't say how I'd act, honestly.

OP:

I have never in my life hit a woman, and I think that is wrong. However, there are no universals, not even in this.

I heard of an woman who had AIDS. She deliberately slept around and infected as many men as she could. She left a note for the guy, "welcome to the world of AIDS." If a woman does this, she's just cut the man's lifespan in half, and assured him an extremely painful death. This is inhuman, inhumane behavior, and honestly, she SHOULD be beaten, she SHOULD probably be killed for that through courts and lethal injection or whatever. However, to the best of my knowledge, doing this to people is not illegal because there is no way to prove that he got the AIDS from her, and not from another woman. The man who would beat her would be more liable in the eyes of the police for beating her, than her for destroying him.

My grandma has been destroying my family's life for the past 30 years. She screams at my mom every day for extended periods the moment my mom gets home from a 14 hour workday. My dad and I have not said a word to her in the past 15 years, but she talks to us, giving us directions like we are somehow her family or connected to her. All my youth, until I grew to hate her, she "parented" me while my parents were at work, trying as hard as she could to make me into an pimento, (she failed.) She promised my parents help in getting an apartment when they first got married, (housing in the Soviet Union was very scarce,) but it was just a lie to get them in HER apartment. She sets the branches of my family against each other, playing a nasty kind of politics, because it brings her joy to see disharmony and hatred developing. She is a raging, screaming, evil b!tch. According to people like you, OP, it is okay for her to torment my immediate and extended family until God gives her fat ass a stroke or heart attack, but it is NOT okay for me to hit her even once for it. I have never in my life hit a woman, but in her case I've been sorely tempted. I am not a violent, nasty person, but this much hatred, this much abuse... yeah, I've been tempted.

There ARE times when even that is okay. Never speak in universals.

It SHOULD be okay for a man to hit a woman in any circumstance that a man could hit another man or a woman could hit another woman. However, it's socially unacceptable to do so, which, IMO, is pretty damn sexist.

Like Opeth said, I wouldn't give a pomegranate if it was something like forgetting to cook dinner (I'll probably end up cooking dinner for my wife anyway), but if the woman is an absolute peach there's a good chance I WILL strike her at some point.

It SHOULD be okay for a man to hit a woman in any circumstance that a man could hit another man or a woman could hit another woman. However, it's socially unacceptable to do so, which, IMO, is pretty damn sexist.

Like Opeth said, I wouldn't give a pomegranate if it was something like forgetting to cook dinner (I'll probably end up cooking dinner for my wife anyway), but if the woman is an absolute peach there's a good chance I WILL strike her at some point.

The bolded sentence is the epitome of what is wrong with women's lib. Women are almost always physically weaker than men. For a man to beat up a woman is almost always a case of a STRONG person OVERWHELMING a WEAK person. Sinnuendo, do you know what "cowardice" is? What I am talking about is here pretty much the definition of "cowardice." Just because it's socially unacceptable doesn't mean it's wrong. Actually, traditions that have survived 3,000 years may be there for a REASON.

if some chick gives me aids willingly and knowingly, sure id lay some smack on her.
peach at me but thats just a big fucking ass pineapple move.
Thats like here's a grenade the pin will fallout in 5 years and you can never let go of it.

In my case, I'd hit anyone who even hits me (except for my parents perhaps).
So therefore, I don't have any problems hitting a woman (given that they hit me first.
However I will never attack someone unless they attack me first. Thus if a woman slaps/hits/punches me intentionally and painfully, I definately would strike back without hesitation.

In my case, I'd hit anyone who even hits me (except for my parents perhaps).
So therefore, I don't have any problems hitting a woman (given that they hit me first.
However I will never attack someone unless they attack me first. Thus if a woman slaps/hits/punches me intentionally and painfully, I definately would strike back without hesitation.

You should know that the vast majority of men, if they see this, will do their best to send you to the hospital.

You should know that the vast majority of men, if they see this, will do their best to send you to the hospital.

Most likely they'd be in hospital by the time I'm done with them, given that they attack first or if one of the men is Chuck Norris.