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Job Experts - Nexon needs your help!
#21
I posted on the maplestory official forum but ill post here as well. I would like to help in feedback for buccaneers.
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#22
VerrKol Wrote:I'd just like to say that you're long overdue at trying to talk to these people.

I agree. I think something like this would have been helpful long ago - but better late than never, eh?

Just so we are clear, here's a copy/paste from Reddit on what my goals are:

"I'm testing the water on a player-nominated council/senate type initiative, in which player representatives will be chosen from among all aspects of the game, who would then be a representative of their chosen "population" (One for each Job, one for the Free Market, one for the Story, etc.). This would allow us/them to gather feedback, share opinions, and voice opposition to changes and/or updates in the game, as well as create a more visible line from these players to our Production and Development team through myself.

This is still very much a work-in-progress, and I haven't talked about this with the team internally yet as this started as an idea today, but I would like to discuss the option internally of allowing this group of players to craft proposals that are voted on by the group itself, to be proposed directly to the development team itself on changes to the game and ideas/feedback that can be developed."
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#23
would that mean possible deviation from KMS's skills and game mechanics?
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#24
If you want to get a more cohesive set of votes it'd be better to go on basil and ask class subforum by class subforum to vote for a rep instead of asking entire communities.
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#25
PoetryIsFail Wrote:If you want to get a more cohesive set of votes it'd be better to go on basil and ask class subforum by class subforum to vote for a rep instead of asking entire communities.

That's the long term plan. This is just to see if we even have people who the community would go so far as to nominate for each role in the game. Smile

ShinkuDragon Wrote:would that mean possible deviation from KMS's skills and game mechanics?

Can't guarantee that, of course, but changes can always be suggested to KMS as well, which would affect us.
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#26
[MENTION=13864]CM_Artasi[/MENTION]; That sounds like a huge improvement and something the community desperately needs. Frankly I'm surprised that you're shooting for something so ambitious, but I'll definitely admit Nexon has been making some visible efforts lately in a lot of areas. Thanks for your contribution.

PoetryIsFail Wrote:If you want to get a more cohesive set of votes it'd be better to go on basil and ask class subforum by class subforum to vote for a rep instead of asking entire communities.

I can't speak for all of basil, but this is what effectively happened for the Archers anyway. There are only 4~5 experts there and I've already seen them appropriately nominated by several people.
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#27
CM_Artasi Wrote:That's the long term plan. This is just to see if we even have people who the community would go so far as to nominate for each role in the game. Smile



Can't guarantee that, of course, but changes can always be suggested to KMS as well, which would affect us.

i asked mainly because of this:
Quote:allowing this group of players to craft proposals that are voted on by the group itself, to be proposed directly to the development team itself on changes to the game and ideas/feedback that can be developed.

now, you can blame it on southperry, nexon, or my X amounts of years playing the game, but i'm going to be quite... pessimistic isn't the word but it's what comes to mind right now, i don't think it'll go that far, but hey, good luck proving me wrong i certainly wish you do.

as for the classes i have to agree with poetryisfail, dividing them as "adventurer warriors" and so instead of "DrK", "hero" and "pally" reps doesn't seem like a good idea to me, sure, less people is easier to manage but finding someone who really knows the strength and weaknesses of each class by heart isn't going to prove easy. especially when some classes in the same tree are very different skill-wise. i know my fair share of hero and pally stuff, but it's mainly theorycrafting from looking at skills and identifying how they should work best. certainly haven't geared either to do high level bossing and while i feel that what i know is certainly enough, it might just not be.

DrK on the other hand is the class i've been since day 1 of my maple adventure, i can nostalgia with the oldest and school the newest. i don't know heroes or pallies like the back of my hand like i do with my DrK.
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#28
I've checked all 3 forums and damn Evans are lacking.

I nominate player Goate or myself for Evan, I have been playing since release and I think I have a really nice amount of knowledge about the class.
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#29
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i asked mainly because of this:


now, you can blame it on southperry, nexon, or my X amounts of years playing the game, but i'm going to be quite... pessimistic isn't the word but it's what comes to mind right now, i don't think it'll go that far, but hey, good luck proving me wrong i certainly wish you do.

as for the classes i have to agree with poetryisfail, dividing them as "adventurer warriors" and so instead of "DrK", "hero" and "pally" reps doesn't seem like a good idea to me, sure, less people is easier to manage but finding someone who really knows the strength and weaknesses of each class by heart isn't going to prove easy. especially when some classes in the same tree are very different skill-wise. i know my fair share of hero and pally stuff, but it's mainly theorycrafting from looking at skills and identifying how they should work best. certainly haven't geared either to do high level bossing and while i feel that what i know is certainly enough, it might just not be.

DrK on the other hand is the class i've been since day 1 of my maple adventure, i can nostalgia with the oldest and school the newest. i don't know heroes or pallies like the back of my hand like i do with my DrK.

Skeptical is the word you're looking for? I'm right there with ya, especially if there's no real influence on KMS developers.

I'll echo this and say that dividing by 1st jobs is a bad idea. While you can probably find people that are experts in say both BM and MM, you're only going to hurt yourself for the more diverse class branches like Warriors or Mages. Each 4th job is unique and deserves it's own slot.
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#30
i'd like to nominate [MENTION=3339]SlayerZach[/MENTION] (SiayerZach, Bellocan) for paladin, and myself (WildSunshine, Bellocan) for bowmaster.
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#31
I wonder how these votes get tallied or how these reps get refined for selection.
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#32
I'd nominate myself or SariJay for Demon Avenger. My DA is lvl 211 currently in Demethos. And i'm right there with you guys with the cynical skepticism about this actually working out with no talks with the KMS team. By the way, if you guys are allowed to, RAISE THE FREAKING DAMAGE CAP or remove it all together so slower classes that can only get about 15 - 17 hits per second can have a shot at defeating Dorothy and not just teh classes with hurricane like skills before fifth job is release (and i seriously doubt fifth job is gonna magically increase my dps to match a bowmaster using hurricane and arrowblaster together). NO damage cap would leave the game as a more balanced RPG where classes don't outshine the other due to arbitrary limitations but rather shine in their own niche for what they bring to the game. Seriously, a bowmaster or phantom that hits the 50 or 55m damage cap almost assuredly has about the same range as a slower class that caps on non critical hits of their own fastest skill. so why not let them show themselves equal.
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#33
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i'll self nominate for DrK i guess
i nominate joetang for everything damage related if he still cares, but i think he doesn't.

haven't been on the classes section of the other forums though so i don't feel i know who's "in" on each class currently. i guess SaptaZapta; for heroes, Stereo; for the adventurer warriors (haven't seen him in a while though) and Kashimiya; for DrK too.

Thanks for the nomination. I have mained a Hero for over 6 years, and still play actively every day. But I am not much of a bosser, so I doubt I'd fit the bill.

I agree with your later post regarding Explorers in general: lumping the branches together is not a good idea. I know Heroes well but don't know more of Paladins and Dark Knights than I do of Kaisers or Demon Slayers, or for that matter Blaze Wizards and Angelic Busters. Each explorer class is different, and if one wants an expert then one should go to specialists.
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#34
Rolleyes of course I will be nominating myself (icrossboit) for Marksman. Not an expert on Bowmasters yet.

I nominate Aatrox for xenon [MENTION=9229]iiStevche[/MENTION]Wink

Misusing for Wild Hunter

Pastewrong for Bowmaster

InkArt (LnkArt?) for Night Walker

[MENTION=12966]Terebii[/MENTION]; Torasmiles for Paladin

cheesemochi for angelic buster

that's all i can think of atm


if you're also looking for experts at different content, I nominate myself for Tower of Oz. Only person as far as I know that has all 50 floors explained (and completed) on YouTube videos.

and still waiting on any information about what you planned to do with livestreamers Big Grin
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#35
I don't stream, but I upload YouTube videos about Shades on a regular basis, so if that could be of help, I'll nominate myself to represent Shades.
I've been playing since release, so I'd like to think I know enough about them to answer questions asked by the community.
I've been answering Shade related questions at Basilmarket, so I don't see a reason why I can't do that over the official forums.


IGN - Pybo ( LVL 211 )
Server - Scania
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EDIT:
I'd like to nominate [MENTION=11534]Straatlamp[/MENTION]; for Wind Archers.
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#36
This thread is a couple years late for me unfortunately. I don't know anyone who would consider themselves an expert or even myself anymore.
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#37
ShinkuDragon Wrote:DrK on the other hand is the class i've been since day 1 of my maple adventure, i can nostalgia with the oldest and school the newest.

Same here. So I'll self nominate myself for DrKs as well.
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#38
I realise that this is a GMS thing, however after seeing NEXON do quite well the last months in EMS I want to ask if you @CM_Artasi could communicate and set this up in EMS as well! This seems like a good initiative in my eyes and I would very much like to see it in EMS.
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#39
Eyon Wrote:I realise that this is a GMS thing, however after seeing NEXON do quite well the last months in EMS I want to ask if you @CM_Artasi could communicate and set this up in EMS as well! This seems like a good initiative in my eyes and I would very much like to see it in EMS.

I'd wait to see how it works for GMS, before exporting the idea.
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#40
I consider myself an expert to everything Maple predating Big Bang (and perhaps a year after), especially when it comes to Night Lords.

If you need to reach back through time for reference or how to fix what has been broken since, I could probably be an asset.

If it is strictly bossing in the current Maple, then I can't help at all.

I will echo the opinion that this is probably 5 years late. I hope that you can make actuall progress though, because the game needs radical help to get a second blossoming.
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