NexonKR finally beat the botters, but

Oh s'hit lowered exp. Then at what point do you stop receiving lowered experience and get the real value.

Why is that at all a big deal though? You're 15x. Aside from hunting, which isn't affected at all, you have no reason to be training at those mobs in the first place.

what if I want to hunt for scrolls/items at monsters 40 levels under me?

the 6:4 ratio is what nefed LHC, not the new exp:level system.

it haven't affected bosses, I just pap'd.

what if I want to hunt for scrolls/items at monsters 40 levels under me?

Well good thing drops weren't affected at all then. Which you said in the first post.

the 6:4 ratio is what nefed LHC, not the new exp:level system.

it haven't affected bosses, I just pap'd.

I never assumed the exp:level change affected LHC or boss monsters. Which is why i said you have no reason to train there. Because they aren't affected.

Well good thing drops weren't affected at all then. Which you said in the first post.



I never assumed the exp:level change affected LHC or boss monsters. Which is why i said you have no reason to train there.

you obviously didn't read what I said. mobs that give a lowered exp rate only drop ETC items.

Oh. Good thing treasure monsters exist, then.

Oh. Good thing treasure monsters exist, then.

they only drop a mystery book. the rarity of the treasure monsters has been increased. the possibility of finding one is like finding a chaos scroll.

Oh. Good thing treasure monsters exist, then.

Nice save.

Good thing it definitely doesn't apply to them.

owait it very well might.

the possibility of finding one is like finding a chaos scroll.

That sounds like a gross underestimation considering what i've already heard about mastery books being very cheap now.

Nice save.

Good thing it definitely doesn't apply to them.

owait it very well might.

Doesn't matter. Treasure monsters existing compensates for the lost drops gained by "high levels" and gives it to the lower leveled instead. High levels have MUCH better ways of getting money than hunting for drops. Especially for a unique equipped OP KMS DB such as the thread starter. Therefore he still doesn't have any reason to be hunting such mobs. Pre-chaos he could say he's hunting there for rare skill books like people in GMS do now, but they're worthless.

KMS took a drastic approach in favor of stopping botting in exchange for hurting high levels a little bit. They should still change it back though.

Doesn't matter. Treasure monsters existing compensates for the lost drops gained by "high levels" and gives it to the lower leveled instead. High levels have MUCH better ways of getting money than hunting for drops. Especially for a unique equipped OP KMS DB such as the thread starter.

I spend a fair amount of time hunting for specific equips from specific monsters. I'm not seeing how it's a good idea that i get shafted for this.

Oh and disliking his comparison between treasure monsters and chaos scrolls because mastery books deflated isn't exactly solid reasoning. Chaos scrolls aren't really expensive compared to what they used to be.

I spend a fair amount of time hunting for specific equips from specific monsters. I'm not seeing how it's a good idea that i get shafted for this.

Do you play KMS?

they are cheap now, due to the treasure monsters spawning every 15 minutes, in every level 120 map, in every channel. but the patch messed that up.

how do you suggest I make money?

I zak daily, only to get potions and the occasional NPC food. same goes with pap.
pieces of time are barely 1.5mil.
the most expensive scroll is GFA60%, and I don't know of any level 150+ monster that drops it.

making money in KMS is harder than it is in GMS - you should give it a try. the only option is merchanting, which I lack the patience to do, due to the market changing so fast. 4 days ago, SE20 was 110mil. now it's barely 70.
and I refuse to pigmy for profit.

octopusprime: I was talking about the chance of finding both. the rarity of chaos scrolls hasn't changed, events only changed the value.

Do you play KMS?

does it matter? it's something i like to do in the game. if it gets implemented in kms its almost guarunteed that it eventually comes to gms. this change will eventually affect me unless it is changed.

they are cheap now, due to the treasure monsters spawning every 15 minutes, in every level 120 map, in every channel. but the patch messed that up.

how do you suggest I make money?

I zak daily, only to get potions and the occasional NPC food. same goes with pap.
pieces of time are barely 1.5mil.
the most expensive scroll is GFA60%, and I don't know of any level 150+ monster that drops it.

making money in KMS is harder than it is in GMS - you should give it a try. the only option is merchanting, which I lack the patience to do, due to the market changing so fast. 4 days ago, SE20 was 110mil. now it's barely 70.
and I refuse to pigmy for profit.

octopusprime: I was talking about the chance of finding both. the rarity of chaos scrolls hasn't changed, events only changed the value.

Cubes. You're the master of cube selling. @_@

octopusprime: I was talking about the chance of finding both. the rarity of chaos scrolls hasn't changed, events only changed the value.

i understand that. takebackers rebuttal to this is that mastery books got cheaper. I'm just pointing out that chaos scrolls did as well.

Cubes. You're the master of cube selling. @_@

that's what I do, seeing as it's my only way of earning a decent buck. the market is fluctuating too much do merchant decently.

Doesn't matter. Treasure monsters existing compensates for the lost drops gained by "high levels" and gives it to the lower leveled instead. High levels have MUCH better ways of getting money than hunting for drops. Especially for a unique equipped OP KMS DB such as the thread starter. Therefore he still doesn't have any reason to be hunting such mobs. Pre-chaos he could say he's hunting there for rare skill books like people in GMS do now, but they're worthless.

Um, I tend to hunt monsters for equips that I can use on new character quite often. When I'm hunting I tend to use my Paladin. My paladin is level 149. The monsters that drop the equips I want are level 60 to 100. Treasure Monsters only drop mastery books. I can't effectively hunt for equips anymore. My Paladin is technically a high level. This patch has a significant affect on high leveled players.

that's what I do, seeing as it's my only way of earning a decent buck. the market is fluctuating too much do merchant decently.

Well, I don't really know how you are with money, but it may be wise to try to cut back your spending and not buy anything from the free market. Just buy potions and grind -- that's what I do in JMS when I know I don't have a shot at selling anything in the market. If you can get/have a pet, the money from pickups from monsters (your level, of course) should be enough to sustain that budget. You have hundreds of millions of mesos at the moment, so letting go of temptation and staying away from buying anything except potions for a while may be the best thing you can do.

they are cheap now, due to the treasure monsters spawning every 15 minutes, in every level 120 map, in every channel. but the patch messed that up.

how do you suggest I make money?

I zak daily, only to get potions and the occasional NPC food. same goes with pap.
pieces of time are barely 1.5mil.
the most expensive scroll is GFA60%, and I don't know of any level 150+ monster that drops it.

making money in KMS is harder than it is in GMS - you should give it a try. the only option is merchanting, which I lack the patience to do, due to the market changing so fast. 4 days ago, SE20 was 110mil. now it's barely 70.
and I refuse to pigmy for profit.

1) PvP for random recipes and sell the valuable ones.
2) Forge 130 equipment.
3) Set up item disassemblers if you're an alchemist. If you aren't one, make one.
4) Make and sell +X000 HP potions.
5) Buy/sell cubes either to koreans or other english speaking players who don't have access to such things.
6) Make potentialed items with %stat.

does it matter? it's something i like to do in the game. if it gets implemented in kms its almost guarunteed that it eventually comes to gms. this change will eventually affect me unless it is changed.

It does. For several reasons.

1) We won't get this until November at the earliest.
2) It's still being tested.
3) Profession system allows specific equipment to be forged. Hunting has been long since unnecessary in KMS. Maker will currently forge any equipment you could possibly want right now with higher stats at a cheap price.
4) It isn't "guarunteed". There are systems KMS has that weren't implemented here. Unless you have proof of this. Otherwise you're just speculating...isn't that what you argued against doing in the warrior changes thread?

1) PvP for random recipes and sell the valuable ones.
2) Forge 130 equipment.
3) Set up item disassemblers if you're an alchemist. If you aren't one, make one.
4) Buy/sell cubes either to koreans or other english speaking players who don't have access to such things.
5) Make potentialed items with %stat.



It does. For several reasons.

1) We won't get this until November at the earliest.
2) It's still being tested.
3) Profession system allows specific equipment to be forged. Hunting has been long since unnecessary in KMS. Maker will currently forge any equipment you could possibly want right now with higher stats at a cheap price.
4) It isn't "guarunteed". There are systems KMS has that weren't implemented here. Unless you have proof of this. Otherwise you're just speculating...isn't that what you argued against doing in the warrior changes thread?

1: my timezone eliminates PvP.
2: the profit is too low, thinking about the items needed. you're only making ~20mil each weapon, and the recipes aren't free either.
3: the item disassemblers were only used to start off with, due to the popular demand. now I barely see any fishtanks anywhere.
4: that's what I do.
5: the rate of profit is too low too; I've tried this. ended up spending more than I made.

The hell people actually hunt for equips? pineapple I just bought SCG's, PAC and a zakum helm. ALl that can be bought by selling 20$ in nx.

For once I'm with Casper with this.
This is the most retarded thing to ever exist in terms of updates.