2011-02-12, 10:36 PM
Cyadd Wrote:No matter what I say Moose, you'll have 15 points on why I'm wrong. Regardless, I never thought this was a bad idea. Give up some rights for the whole. Have you any reason to be spied on? Then why does this concern you?A wise man once said:
Quote:“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ”
Why is this? Because the fool that forfeits thier freedoms for security will lose both their freedom and security.
Also, why would the government want to spy on me? I have no idea, but its their job to prove that I'm worth spying on to the courts. The fact that I can be spied on, the fact that you can be spied on, and the fact that anyone can be spied upon for any reason (they just need to shout TERRORIST, and they dont even need to prove it) is a complete abuse of power.
Dont forget that before the PATRIOT act the government could spy on all of us, but they needed a warrent. They needed a little piece of paper signifying that the courts approve of government intervention. Is it so hard to just have a little piece of paper? Is it so hard that they have to bypass judicial review? Apparently so, since the FBI is so incompetent that they dont even have enough proof to list Osama Bin Ladin on the FBI most wanted list for 9/11.
Quote:On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e13664.htm
But if this is the case, we dont need the PATRIOT Act. We need some competent workers in the FBI that actually care about protecting us.
To answer "why does this concern you?" Well, it should concern all of us. Regardless of our personal lives and what secrets we might have, its an attrocity that the government might be wasting time, our money, and man power on people that they they cannot even prove to the courts are potential terrorists. They need to prove to the courts that people are worth spying on and are potential dangers, not to protect and respect our freedoms, but also to show that it is not a waste of our tax payer dollars. I dont know about you, but I dont want the government spending several hundred million investigating people's sex lives... oh wait, they already do that.
And great job at ignoring the indefinite detentions without trial or proof. Bravo.
