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So I need a new computer
#21
singularity Wrote:You don't want to/can't build a computer?

Both.

I just kinda want confirmation that the one I think about getting now will get done what I want it to, which I'm pretty sure of. I'm upgrading my hd by 12.5 fold, processor by 2+fold, Ram by 12 fold and vid card by 8fold. So even if it does not run all the latest games 100% I'll still be happy with it, I'm sure.

I'm now thinkign about getting this one (since the aspire has a small case there's increasedoverheat risk):

Processor type: Intel Core2 Quad Q8300
Processor snelheid: 2.50 Ghz
Werkgeheugen: 4 GB
Capaciteit harde schijf: 1000 GB
Aantal geïnstalleerde harde schrijven: 1
Besturingssysteem: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits
Grafische kaart: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Geluidskaart: Onboard
Aantal USB 2.0-aansluitingen: 6
Optische drive: DVD-Brander met Lightscribe
RAM-type: DDR3
Processor model: Core 2 Quad Q8300
Geheugen grafische kaart: 1 GB
Overige aansl.: 2 audiopoorten voor, 3 analoge audiopoorten achter

Then I'd just put a diff graphs card in (5770) and get a WLan Usb sticky and sum speakers oh and a screen. Sound gud? (It's 599 euros btw, w/o the extra things I listed)

Nvm I won't do that, that'll cost me like 900+ euros total if I need to get a screen as well. Is the graph card in that first comp really that bad?
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#22
ZottenKerel Wrote:Both.

I just kinda want confirmation that the one I think about getting now will get done what I want it to, which I'm pretty sure of. I'm upgrading my hd by 12.5 fold, processor by 2+fold, Ram by 12 fold and vid card by 8fold. So even if it does not run all the latest games 100% I'll still be happy with it, I'm sure.

I'm now thinkign about getting this one (since the aspire has a small case there's increasedoverheat risk):

Processor type: Intel Core2 Quad Q8300
Processor snelheid: 2.50 Ghz
Werkgeheugen: 4 GB
Capaciteit harde schijf: 1000 GB
Aantal geïnstalleerde harde schrijven: 1
Besturingssysteem: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits
Grafische kaart: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Geluidskaart: Onboard
Aantal USB 2.0-aansluitingen: 6
Optische drive: DVD-Brander met Lightscribe
RAM-type: DDR3
Processor model: Core 2 Quad Q8300
Geheugen grafische kaart: 1 GB
Overige aansl.: 2 audiopoorten voor, 3 analoge audiopoorten achter

Then I'd just put a diff graphs card in (5770) and get a WLan Usb sticky and sum speakers oh and a screen. Sound gud? (It's 599 euros btw, w/o the extra things I listed)

Nvm I won't do that, that'll cost me like 900+ euros total if I need to get a screen as well. Is the graph card in that first comp really that bad?

4650 is quite bad.
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#23
Sight getting a decent vid card jsut means at least a 750 euro pc, then I still need a screen. >;< I'm fkd ain't I.
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#24
Sry for double, but it's a new development, so it's relevant new info for the thread.

I've (somewha) decided to build my own now. A friend's bf builds his own as well and I'll get his help when I'm puzzled (or just do it together). Some dude on youtube specd a pretty nice rig, with everything I need basically. It is a
C2Q Q9200
4gig ram
5770 vid card
1TB
and all the rest that's needed
He said he made it for 700$ total. That sounded rather low though, so here is the new question. Say I was to build my own on a 700$ budget, could I build a rig spec'd close to that?
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#25
Possible, but the key to sticking to that budget is lots of research and window-shopping. Bundles are your friend, and don't be fooled with low prices with an asterisk for rebates.
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#26
ZottenKerel Wrote:I've (somewha) decided to build my own now. A friend's bf builds his own as well and I'll get his help when I'm puzzled (or just do it together). Some dude on youtube specd a pretty nice rig, with everything I need basically. It is a
C2Q Q9200
4gig ram
5770 vid card
1TB
and all the rest that's needed
He said he made it for 700$ total. That sounded rather low though, so here is the new question. Say I was to build my own on a 700$ budget, could I build a rig spec'd close to that?
You could buy a Phenom II quad for same/less than that Core 2 Quad and get same/better performance. (And if you're thinking about virtualization, the C2Q lacks support for EPT/RVI.) Like I said before, AMD's processors are usually better when your budget has less than $200 allocated to the CPU.

The rest looks just fine. Obviously, the 5770 is overpowered for Maple, but you never stated what other games you play. The guide on Tom's Hardware states for the 5770: "Great 1920x1200 performance in most games." So you can get by with a lesser card if you're going to play at a lower resolution.
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#27
I see, so an AMD Phenom II would be better than the Intel? Also I guess I could downgrade to a 5750 then, that should save some money and still be pro, right?

This is what the guy on youtube replied to me:

Q9400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

HD 5770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...#37;20550w

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product [out of stock]

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product [you can buy some low end ram if you want]

Case:idk whatever you want =D mine sucks


Lemme know what ya think. XD
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#28
ZottenKerel Wrote:This is what the guy on youtube replied to me
First of all, I don't think Newegg ships internationally. So you'll need to find equivalents at places where you can buy stuff.

(You're from Netherlands, right?) I put in "computer parts netherlands" into google and found this site that might help: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/

Getting back to that guy's recommendations for you:
That hard drive is bad value because $15-25 more can double storage. The Samsung Spinpoint F3 and Hitachi 7k1000c can be bought at a pretty good price and give good performance for a mech. HDD.

Aftermarket CPU cooler is necessary only if you're overclocking; the retail HSF is fine if you won't. Or you can get a cooler if you're worried about a hot CPU. In that case, make sure to buy a thermal compound if it comes without one.

For RAM, just get the cheapest 4 or 6 or 8GB DDR2/DDR3 -- save the money for graphics, PSU, etc.

For case, (standard size is a Mid Tower) I recommend getting one with the front panel (audio, USB, eSATA) on top if you put your comp. on the floor. If you put it on a table/off the ground, front panel being around the middle/bottom is fine. Also, if it has no fans installed by default, you'll need to buy some (go for like $5-8 each). Usually, these have front/back fans already.

PSU: Personally, I'd go for one of OCZ's modular ones even though it has a lower overall rating on Newegg. They're sold as 500, 600, or 700 Watts -- even the 500W one should be enough for a HD5770.

Again, I haven't directly linked any sites because prices can fluctuate. So you can get good value by buying the cheapest parts (that no have red flags -- check reviews on Newegg and stay away from items with more than 20% rated @ 1-3). But use the CPU/GPU guides from Tom's Hardware to see how the CPUs/GPUs stack up.
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