2010-01-25, 11:46 AM
So to watch all the parts, we got to add you as a friend?
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Pink Bean run on pyramid glitch
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2010-01-25, 05:50 PM
Cyanne Wrote:Had to make them private so as not to risk others being banned.What was that random 9k that killed you in part 3? I didn't see anything attack. That Barrel + only attacking from one side thing didn't work out as well as I remember you claiming, though. And you totally forgot to cast booster after your buff ran out. *still watching*
2010-01-25, 06:26 PM
Here's something. We thought PB was supposed to cast things like his reverse genesis on platforms when platforms are there to cast it on (thus why ducking keeps you safe), however, he clearly ignores the platforms and casts exclusively on the ground at 3:11 on the 4th video. Any idea why?
2010-01-25, 06:48 PM
KaidaTan Wrote:What was that random 9k that killed you in part 3? I didn't see anything attack. That Barrel + only attacking from one side thing didn't work out as well as I remember you claiming, though. And you totally forgot to cast booster after your buff ran out. *still watching* If you look closely, you can see Huggin (the bird on the left) casting something that did the 9k that killed her. Takebacker Wrote:I suppose this proves that PB sucks ass and needs to be nerfed like hell.Really it's just the game that's flawed. They could either make his attacks survivable and he'll be really easy, or they could keep him as is and he'll be impossible. EDIT: lol, I just finished watching. I assume you know the lasers are nigh undodgable since they killed you twice in a row. Good f'ucking boss design, nexon. Show us your video of your 30k HP/MP GMs killing it and show us how possible it is. Do it. EDIT2: After some thinking and watching the last 5 minutes of dead Cyanne, I've come to the conclusion that PB is impossible. Even if everyone had 30k HP, there would still be massive time constraints since PB is effectively guarded for half of his phase. The first 5.15b (Phases 1 through 5) would need to be done with 40 minutes to spare. Then, assuming people don't spend a large amount of time seduced or stunned in Phase 6 AND they don't get killed (even with 30k HP, it wouldn't be hard to kill yourself if you attack 3 times with DR up) all that often, then the last 4.2b (if you pretend reflect doubles his HP after 90%, it comes out to about 8b) *might* be possible. However, I think we -- all maple players in all versions -- are a far cry away from being that strong and that well-organized. So screw it, I'm not going to bother HP washing for PB anymore.
2010-01-25, 07:55 PM
KaidaTan Wrote:What was that random 9k that killed you in part 3? I didn't see anything attack. That Barrel + only attacking from one side thing didn't work out as well as I remember you claiming, though. And you totally forgot to cast booster after your buff ran out. *still watching* It was the left hawk's fire magic attack. It usually only does like 7.5k, but with pink bean's magic buff recently made to work (when it grows a flower), it was able to kill me in one hit. In a serious run you'd probably want a paladin there ready to magic crash or a bishop to dispel. Barrel only works when there's nobody near it, and you'll notice some people hanging around it some of time. Nobody really knew what was going on with it because I didn't really bother to tell everyone as the run was only planned in a few days. And yeah about booster, I was too focused on trying to stay alive xP KaidaTan Wrote:Here's something. We thought PB was supposed to cast things like his reverse genesis on platforms when platforms are there to cast it on (thus why ducking keeps you safe), however, he clearly ignores the platforms and casts exclusively on the ground at 3:11 on the 4th video. Any idea why? The lasers are arranged in 800-pixel-wide clusters, and they only attach above the ground when the centers of the clusters are above the ground (so if there's a platform 400px to left of PB, the entire 800px span of lasers would be duckable, along with 1200px to the left, etc.). Takebacker Wrote:I suppose this proves that PB sucks ass and needs to be nerfed like hell. Unfortunately, our buccaneer didn't have the hp to take touch damage and didn't know when to barrage with the correct timing. Ideally, you'll want a buccaneer with 24k+ hp standing to the right of PB and all ranged attackers on the left. Being the only attack to consistently and instantly KB pink bean without the pyramid glitch (and the only one I'm aware of that can KB with the 1 damage caused by damage reflect), barraging forces it to attack to the right. Whenever pink bean uses big bang, have the buccaneer just walk into it and touch it to prevent super knockback. Then barrage whenever it randomly starts walking left, as you can see sometimes happens in the video.
2010-01-25, 08:14 PM
^See my second edit in the post above^
Good attempt, but PB is just silly. Considering the unpredictability of the lasers that you mentioned, the range would have to all have enough HP to tank it, which is pretty stupid. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they made this guy, but I would seriously like to see a video of kMS's test team beating it, since they claimed to have done so (hence why it's not going to be nerfed).
2010-01-25, 08:20 PM
whats your youtube name so i can add you.
most likey they had perfect chaos scrolled vicious hammerd equips (yah they probly gave them to the test team), all lvl 200, the cash shop atk pot thingie, onyx apples, and the GM command for invincibility)
2010-01-25, 08:25 PM
KaidaTan Wrote:^See my second edit in the post above^ Well, they're not exactly unpredictable considering they never appear when PB's facing right, which it should be anyways to prevent big bang from hitting left. While it's very possible for a group in gMS to kill it without the glitch, it requires perfect coordination of 30 strong people of attacking classes in the same place at the same time. I think that with apples, pink capes, etc. kMS could kill it, they're extremely dedicated. The fastest run I've seen, they got to pink bean with 12 minutes remaining. hyperhopper Wrote:whats your youtube name so i can add you. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch_private?v=Z...S4UCDw4vbg Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch_private?v=s...J873V-C7wg I think it only works for 25 people though.
2010-01-25, 08:31 PM
Cyanne Wrote:Well, they're not exactly unpredictable considering they never appear when PB's facing right, which it should be anyways to prevent big bang from hitting left. While it's very possible for a group in gMS to kill it without the glitch, it requires perfect coordination of 30 strong people of attacking classes in the same place at the same time. I think that with apples, pink capes, etc. kMS could kill it, they're extremely dedicated. The fastest run I've seen, they got to pink bean with 12 minutes remaining.12 minutes? They would need to be more than double as strong as that run, and that's with the assumption that they attack every second reflect isn't up. As others have noticed, kMS isn't as much weaker than us as we've stereotyped them to be, so even if they were to get that stuff I really don't see it happening.
2010-01-25, 09:01 PM
That was a very interesting and fast run. Maybe next time (if you bother), you might be able to take him down. Although, you guys did use up a good 10-15min trying to set up for the run. a-@
2010-01-26, 02:14 AM
Pretty good run. However, one thing I notice about PB attempts i've seen is the lack of high to max levels of heros will. To me this really should be a requirement (for those who can afford it SP wise) in my opinion. This would do 2 things, firstly it would reduce time wasted hoppin' around and secondly it would help survivability for classes who can take hits. I know you didn't have any intention of killing Pb this round but I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
2010-01-26, 03:07 PM
Zeanion Wrote:Pretty good run. However, one thing I notice about PB attempts i've seen is the lack of high to max levels of heros will. To me this really should be a requirement (for those who can afford it SP wise) in my opinion. This would do 2 things, firstly it would reduce time wasted hoppin' around and secondly it would help survivability for classes who can take hits. I know you didn't have any intention of killing Pb this round but I just wanted to give my 2 cents. Most people do have 1 point in more into Hero's Will. It's just that once you use it, it takes so long it to cool off.. level 5 is 360sec til you can use it again.
2010-01-26, 10:42 PM
Typhoon Wrote:Aren't all normal runs basically for fun and experimentation? Everyone who tries PB normally loses money as well. Not gonna lie, you shouldn't have posted this all over youtube. I know someone on my bl that was banned last night because he used that glitch at anego, and was banned by an actual GM that seen him <O< He got 1 month. Are you sure he got bann'd by a GM, GM's only perma ban i believe
2010-01-27, 12:09 AM
Typhoon Wrote:Most people do have 1 point in more into Hero's Will. It's just that once you use it, it takes so long it to cool off.. level 5 is 360sec til you can use it again. Hmm, sorry to go off topic a little bit but what exactly is the max level of hero's will? In game it says Master level is 10 for me and I also remember 'hearing' lvl 10 is 1 min cooldown (don't remember when this was). Looking around the net I can't find any reliable/complete tables of what the cooldowns are and most sites still have outdated skill tables (even here it says hero's will is max lvl 1 in the training center forum topic 4th job skill tables) Perhaps I'm not looking in the right plaes but some say its 5, some say its 1 (<~ I know this one is wrong) and some say its 10. Can anyone confirm for sure what the real numbers are?
2010-01-27, 12:20 AM
Zeanion Wrote:Hmm, sorry to go off topic a little bit but what exactly is the max level of hero's will? In game it says Master level is 10 for me and I also remember 'hearing' lvl 10 is 1 min cooldown (don't remember when this was). Looking around the net I can't find any reliable/complete tables of what the cooldowns are and most sites still have outdated skill tables (even here it says hero's will is max lvl 1 in the training center forum topic 4th job skill tables) Perhaps I'm not looking in the right plaes but some say its 5, some say its 1 (<~ I know this one is wrong) and some say its 10. Can anyone confirm for sure what the real numbers are? It's 5, with 6 mins of cooldown time. |
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