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I'm Worried for GMS
#21
ThatWasMyKil Wrote:just dont want zak helms 2 and 3 to be the only ones that are usable...

I thought we already had those O.O
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#22
shroum Wrote:says who?
It's an update.
If all versions have to add every thing in kms wouldn't they have to remove everything removed according to your theory?

Which is harder to do?

Take a premade dish you bought in the store and add your own spices to it, or take that same premade dish and remove spices from it?

Easier to apply more than to take out.
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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#23
shroum Wrote:They're a professional company.

Nexon America has been demonstrating this aspect very excellently. Glitter
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#24
Eosian Wrote:Which is harder to do?

Take a premade dish you bought in the store and add your own spices to it, or take that same premade dish and remove spices from it?

Easier to apply more than to take out.
Lets say you work really REALLY hard prepare a meal for a guest and yourself and you ad your own spices to it. Then lets say the guest doesn't want those spices on his. Because he doesn't like them does he tell you to remove yours?
Now replace the Meal with world tour
Kalovale Wrote:Nexon America has been demonstrating this aspect very excellently. Glitter

They know how to make a game don't they?
They know how to add and remove content don't they?
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#25
shroum Wrote:As if every version would delete their world tour THEY WORKED HARD ON.
They would probably rather go through the pain of this.
They're a professional company.

It would force them to not rely on a single NPC to host all the areas that other versions added. KMS was kinda smart in removing it as it made it more connected by having them create an entry method from scratch. Sure, GMS used the ticket machine for NLC, but it actually worked it out to be a part of everything else. Spinnel (or what ever her name is) is an eye sore when its a random person sitting there taking you all over the world.
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#26
shroum Wrote:says who?
It's an update.
If all versions have to add every thing in kms wouldn't they have to remove everything removed according to your theory?
By that theory, I am going to give you an update!
This update will remove your ability to reply to posts!
You should be happy, it's an update right? new content for your account!

No, sorry, that's not the way the word works.
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#27
Sn1perJohnE Wrote:It would force them to not rely on a single NPC to host all the areas that other versions added. KMS was kinda smart in removing it as it made it more connected by having them create an entry method from scratch. Sure, GMS used the ticket machine for NLC, but it actually worked it out to be a part of everything else. Spinnel (or what ever her name is) is an eye sore when its a random person sitting there taking you all over the world.

If I am understanding this right why not just add a different "ticket booth" for every place? Hurt Only japan still has that and some versions of the floating market.
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IsaacGS Wrote:By that theory, I am going to give you an update!
This update will remove your ability to reply to posts!
You should be happy, it's an update right? new content for your account!

No, sorry, that's not the way the word works.
I would consider that an update.
not a very good one but still an update!
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#28
shroum Wrote:If I am understanding this right why not just add a different "ticket booth" for every place? Hurt Only japan still has that and some versions of the floating market.

Thats the whole point of removing Spinnel X_X it forces that contents creator to rethink how the player gets to the area that has been added. With Zipangu, they could easily have a connection from KFT, or something. The way it is now puts everything in one place and it removes the idea of "touring the world," as you arnt moving much to get there. You click someone, and your there. Thats why NLC and Singapore work, you seemingly travel there by the subway or train.
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#29
shroum Wrote:Lets say you work really REALLY hard prepare a meal for a guest and yourself and you ad your own spices to it. Then lets say the guest doesn't want those spices on his. Because he doesn't like them does he tell you to remove yours?
Now replace the Meal with world tour

Your analogy has no bearing on the situation - Nexon America isn't the cook. They're just adding salt and pepper to KMS' dish. They don't have very much say in whether entre is chicken or beef and portion control is about all they have.

Anyhow, you're trying to argue for Nexon based on your expectations of a competent company with no understanding of their underlying distribution model or design framework.

Just because you think it should be one way doesn't make it so.
Since we obviously have different information and have drawn different conclusions from that information it's best to just agree to disagree and move on.
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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#30
I mean this is the same for all MapleStory Server. The Developer (Nexon Korea) simply just copy the data from KMS and distribute to other MapleStory Servers. During the process, the language is being translated and only minor changes are made. It is simply a "copy & paste" process. All Server face this problem as well.
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#31
Sn1perJohnE Wrote:Thats the whole point of removing Spinnel X_X it forces that contents creator to rethink how the player gets to the area that has been added. With Zipangu, they could easily have a connection from KFT, or something. The way it is now puts everything in one place and it removes the idea of "touring the world," as you arnt moving much to get there. You click someone, and your there. Thats why NLC and Singapore work, you seemingly travel there by the subway or train.
OHHHH
but they didn't just remove spinel they removed world tour too o.o
Eosian Wrote:Your analogy has no bearing on the situation - Nexon America isn't the cook. They're just adding salt and pepper to KMS' dish. They don't have very much say in whether entre is chicken or beef and portion control is about all they have.

Anyhow, you're trying to argue for Nexon based on your expectations of a competent company with no understanding of their underlying distribution model or design framework.

Just because you think it should be one way doesn't make it so.
Since we obviously have different information and have drawn different conclusions from that information it's best to just agree to disagree and move on.
Deal! Biggrin
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#32
You're only level 56, go kill some mushrooms and stop finding new BS to complain about Glitter
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#33
What I don't get about it is that a ton of players are saying that this isn't a KMS-built content, even though it CLEARLY is. Everyone is just saying it's a nerfed version of Future Toukyou. If that's true, it's a version that'll never hit JMS for sure. In fact, I hope it NEVER hits JMS, because two areas with the same exact stuff is too redundant and pointless.
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#34
I think KMS is quickly adding all "world tour" content to their version so that their version is different. No one else will get it, and KMS isn't unbalanced because of some things the originals have. (NLC pots, for one)

Eosian Wrote:Which is harder to do?

Take a premade dish you bought in the store and add your own spices to it, or take that same premade dish and remove spices from it?

Easier to apply more than to take out.

I would think professional developers in this industry would constantly create source backups so that they can quickly undo any additions that they do, though your point still stands and i think you would know since you're in the business. Stunned
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#35
Do you really think we are getting kerning square, and msea is getting neo city?
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#36
This just seems like a bit of a pointless drama thread.

It's funny how nearly everyone said Neo Tokyo was pomegranate and they couldn't care less if they got it. Now that Neo City is on the Scene everyone is outraged and the original content must be preserved at all costs! Even though hardly anyone even gave a damn about it in the first place.

If it happens then it happens. We didn't get the same Zipangu as KMS. It was altered so I don't see why we would have to get these new areas. Though GMS hardly even has any world tour so it is probably one of the most likely to follow KMS in this lol.

It would be nice to get the original versions sure but better having the KMS ones than none at all like we currently have.
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#37
Kirov Wrote:This just seems like a bit of a pointless drama thread.

It's funny how nearly everyone said Neo Tokyo was pomegranate and they couldn't care less if they got it. Now that Neo City is on the Scene everyone is outraged and the original content must be preserved at all costs! Even though hardly anyone even gave a damn about it in the first place.

Because no one knew how good neo tokyo was until justin could actually go through it instead of all of us originally just listening to him b'itch about how s'hitty it was since everything ohko'd him at the time.

Once he did, he started telling us of how awesome it is, so now it looks like a great area.

Even before, people just liked the area for looks.
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