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Analogy Fail To Obama
#21
ImVindictive Wrote:Also I find it halarious how many complain about Obama yet he won on such a land slide, even states who were opposite parties voted for him.

Probably because they expected him to fulfill the promises that pretty much carried him into office? derp
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#22
Greg Wrote:Probably because they expected him to fulfill the promises that pretty much carried him into office? derp

The fact you relied solely on promises on our president makes you a derp lol. Put it together, you get into office and it takes nearly 2 years to set up your 'team'. He is fullfilling some things the general public wants but think about it this way, the parties finally switched up after 8 long years and now they are trying to pull off everything they wanted with litterally no budget. Were running on empty and they are doing their best with the resources we have.

You think obama would go in there and get pomegranate done in 8 years? Hell were fortunate enough he has the bills in progress. You can't blame the president for the long process it takes to pass such things.

Your welcome Opeth.
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#23
ClawofBeta Wrote:What the pineapple did Karl Marx do wrong? I just wikipediaed him, and admittedly I only skimmed, but all I could gain was that he invented Communism.

yeah, he is, iirc, partly/mostly responsible for the creation of the communist party; the author of the communist manifesto is the creator of that party. it gives down a set of ideas that make it so social standings and the class system are wiped out, where everyone gets exactly what they NEED. NEED, as in, im a single mother of 3 and i cant afford food -- "where here ya go mam, food for you, and each of your children, for xx days." it was a revolutionary idea, but never had gained much popularity (POSITIVE) because the people in charge of the newly founded communist nations were not true communists. they were greedy, and took more for themselves and gave less to the people. look at china, and you will see proof. its not a bad idea, but human intervention makes it flawed.
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#24
TobiasBlack Wrote:yeah, he is, iirc, partly/mostly responsible for the creation of the communist party; the author of the communist manifesto is the creator of that party. it gives down a set of ideas that make it so social standings and the class system are wiped out, where everyone gets exactly what they NEED. NEED, as in, im a single mother of 3 and i cant afford food -- "where here ya go mam, food for you, and each of your children, for xx days." it was a revolutionary idea, but never had gained much popularity (POSITIVE) because the people in charge of the newly founded communist nations were not true communists. they were greedy, and took more for themselves and gave less to the people. look at china, and you will see proof. its not a bad idea, but human intervention makes it flawed.

So basically, Karl Marx didn't really do anything wrong. Which makes the author of that poster even more of an idiot.
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#25
ClawofBeta Wrote:So basically, Karl Marx didn't really do anything wrong. Which makes the author of that poster even more of an idiot.

marx was the developer of marxism, one of the earliest forms of political communism.
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#26
ImVindictive Wrote:The fact [SIZE="3"]you[/SIZE] relied solely on promises on our president makes [SIZE="3"]you [/SIZE]a derp lol. Put it together, you get into office and it takes nearly 2 years to set up your 'team'. He is fullfilling some things the general public wants but think about it this way, the parties finally switched up after 8 long years and now they are trying to pull off everything they wanted with litterally no budget. Were running on empty and they are doing their best with the resources we have.

[SIZE="3"]You[/SIZE] think obama would go in there and get pomegranate done in 8 years? Hell were fortunate enough he has the bills in progress. [SIZE="3"]You[/SIZE] can't blame the president for the long process it takes to pass such things.

[SIZE="3"]Your[/SIZE] welcome Opeth.
I don't ever recall voicing my own opinions on all of this; I didn't even vote. Also, why are you implying Obama wouldn't get anything done in 8 years if he won't even make it past the 4th year if he doesn't deliver anything new to this country?
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#27
TobiasBlack Wrote:marx was the developer of marxism, one of the earliest forms of political communism.

Communism isn't that bad...
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#28
Greg Wrote:I don't ever recall voicing my own opinions on all of this; I didn't even vote. Also, why are you implying Obama wouldn't get anything done in 8 years if he won't even make it past the 4th year if he doesn't deliver anything new to this country?

I guess it was implied it was your opinion that you post a fact such as that. I'm guessing a con against obama.

Typically most presidents get two terms, however Obama is adding a new health plan to counter the medicare bankrupt in 2019-21. Once again, limited to by what he has.

You're welcome Opeth
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#29
ClawofBeta Wrote:Communism isn't that bad...

Communism works perfectly theoretically, however, no one is stupid enough to give up all of their pomegranate to give to another for no pay. Imagine going to a 9-5 job everyday and not getting any pay.
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#30
Kurtle Wrote:Communism works perfectly theoretically, however, no one is stupid enough to give up all of their pomegranate to give to another for no pay. Imagine going to a 9-5 job everyday and not getting any pay.

I'd kill myself.
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#31
ClawofBeta Wrote:Communism isn't that bad...

never said it was. according to the manifesto, its the ideal system to live by; human interference and greed complicate, distort, and corrupt it.
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#32
ClawofBeta Wrote:Communism isn't that bad...

That's why its failed every time it has been applied.
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#33
Greg Wrote:That's why its failed every time it has been applied.

It's still going in China Goggleemoticon.

Although it'll probably fall sooner or later, unless they pull another Tian'namen Square again.
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#34
ClawofBeta Wrote:It's still going in China Goggleemoticon.

Although it'll probably fall sooner or later, unless they pull another Tian'namen Square again.

PFFT; the mass populas of china is afraid to speak their mind, and are blinded by false patriotism. that way of life wont change so long as their oppressive regime rules.
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#35
Communism is good on paper and not in practice.

And Obama won on an electoral landslide, not by the oublic vote. The public vote was a 51/49 split almost versus the electoral 2xx to 1xx. o-o
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#36
Greg Wrote:That's why its failed every time it has been applied.

Don't forget the fact that communism is responsible for more deaths than literally any other ideology in history, including Nazism.

But to the true believers, (including Obama,) it just "hasn't been applied the right way."
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#37
Quantact Wrote:Don't forget the fact that communism is responsible for more deaths than literally any other ideology in history, including Nazism.

But to the true believers, (including Obama,) it just "hasn't been applied the right way."

of course not, and it can never be, it relies on humans to run it, which can never work. its like studying electrons, either you can try to take a picture of it and fail, or guess where its going to be, either way you can never do it right.
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#38
[COLOR="Green"]Robots + Communism = Perfect Society.

Until one becomes "smart" because of a virus.[/COLOR]
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#39
Communism would work if everyone had the same intelligence, motivation, strength, etc.
If someone works harder, they should get rewarded for it.
If someone screws up their life, it's not for everyone else to pay the consequences.
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#40
Communism would work if everyone had the same intelligence, motivation, strength, etc.
If someone works harder, they should get rewarded for it.
If someone screws up their life, it's not for everyone else to pay the consequences.
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