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You're all figments of my imagination
#21
GMSInfighter Wrote:You become insane when you see something your not used too, and it's so new to the point that your brain can't take the reality of it. Imagination takes over and has to try and work on your brain to make you see things in a better perspective.

You and I have a different way of viewing what insane is.
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#22
MetaSeraphim Wrote:You and I have a different way of viewing what insane is.

This is true Tongue
Everyone has their own opinion on the matter. I just look at how the brain works as, reality is the workshop, and imagination is the repair station. Imagination needs to come in once and awhile (A lot of the time for me) and show reality in a better or different perspective.
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#23
Quote:Is it possible to prove one's existence to another person, or to prove that one's reality is the true reality?
To break from everyone else in this thread, I say no, it's not possible to prove one's existence to another person or to prove that one's reality is the true reality. There is always the possibility of hallucination, an evil genius, that our real bodies are used by computers to harvest energy, etc.

Descartes's answer relied on the existence of a benevolent God, but unless you can prove the existence of such, that does not work.

Quote:If not, is there anything that can't be chalked up to simply being my imagination trying to trick me into believing something I imagined as real?
If anything, the existence of yourself ("I think, therefore I am") and perhaps logic and by extension, math.
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#24
 Sir, this thread is like dividing by zero.

 We could say your argument is a figment of imagination.

 But we do not know that for sure; this logic could be an illusion as well.

[SPOILER=That means there's an infinite number of arguments that could spawn from this topic!]Save this image, then open it from your computer.

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 Therefore...
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#25
I don't get the mindfuck one, but ok Big Grin
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#26
GMSInfighter Wrote:I don't get the mindpineapple one, but ok Big Grin

If you saved the image Kajiti put up and the open it, it turns out to be a bunch of trees and not the anime-esque picture you saved.
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#27
In short, there is no solid answer to this. Hence why philosophy classes still exist as opposed to "facts of life" classes. If it is the case that this is true, there'll be no way to prove or disprove it. In the case that this is false, someone will always find a "but what about...." or "what if it's just my imagination making THAT happen..." sort of argument.

Hopefully you didn't come to SP hoping for an answer to something that really has no clear cut answer.

Regardless of what scenario the opposers to the "figments of your imagination" people come up with, those who side with the figments of the imagination argument will just chalk it up to the possibility of you having this nearly omnipotent imagination that is fooling you into believing things are actually real.
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#28
I know I exist because I just do.

I do often wonder if you are all actually real. Or just figments of my imagination. I must admit though... it would make me sad if I found out that was true. You guys all know the truth. However, if you weren't real, you'd never say so. As that would just ruin the whole thing. But if you were real... you'd also say you were. So it's confusing.

Life really doesn't make sense at all.

Another thing that makes my head spin... trying to think back to before I was born o_o
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#29
If the universe is a figment of my imagination... Then I must be god.
However I am not god.


However my imagination is powerful and sometimes I feel that the reality I live in my dreams is just as strong as the reality in Outside.
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#30
What if we're all someone else's imagination?
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#31
GMSInfighter Wrote:That's what I'm saying. We don't really know if what we see, is what everyone else sees. Everyone could have their own viewpoint of what is 'reality' and what is 'imagination'. My friend was talking to me about the other day about something like, "My green may be grass, but your green may be leaf, I could see pink as you could see black. My pink, is your black. All our views on reality are different". So like, I think everyone lives in a imagination world of their own, where most things are the same, but not everything. (Such as, everyone knows a PS2 is a PS2, but something like a tree could look different in your imagination than it does in someone elses).
Seeing a color is a photon entering your eye with a certain frequence, annoi some thingy (whatever's in the inside of an eye) which yells a signal to your brain: "I found a foton with this frequency!" But your brain doesn't know any physics however, so it just reads "hey that part is yellow". So a color as you're friend is talking is just the idea of that frequency, which is the same for everyone (except if you're color blind or something). So what I'm trying to say is colors don't exist. (If so, what would be the color of infrared if we would evolve into beings that could see that? Or ultraviolet? The answer is: Your brain would just tell you: "That spot emits ultraviolot." And the 'color' would be different than the others.)

As about the imagination thingy, I think:
If we're persons in your imagination, then your brain wouldn't allow yourself to worry about it. So, by contraposition, you worrying about it, so we're not a product of your imagination! Et voila: QED?
Kinda the idea behind: "I think, so I exist" I think?
That is, if your brain doesn't allow you to think freely. But if it was, I don't think there's a way to proove it. Maybe we should try to prove it can't be proven?


*thinks a bit*
I can't see any consequences if someone would prove it can(t) be proven so I'm stuck there also.
Darn Rolleyes (prove it cant be proven to be proven then? xD)
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#32
ndynslvr Wrote:If the universe is a figment of my imagination... Then I must be god.
However I am not god.

How do you know you're not?

Goggleemoticon.
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#33
xLeviathan Wrote:How do you know you're not?

Goggleemoticon.

Cuz I would never be stupid enough to create an intelligent species that have actions independent from my thoughts. Or would I? Goggleemoticon
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#34
KajitiSouls Wrote:
 But we do not know that for sure; this logic could be an illusion as well.
Rofl, i like these xD
reminds me of the one that states:
work = power * time
knowledge = power
time = money
work = knowldge * money
money = work / knowledge

meaning that the little your knowledge is, the more money you get for x work Tongue
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#35
xLeviathan Wrote:How do you know you're not?

Goggleemoticon.

A God would have power to do whatever he or she wanted to do, correct? Apparently I've not known of any person being capable of controlling me, at least not directly.
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#36
Philosophy Big Grin You can doubt everything in the world, everything, but when you try to doubt your own existence, you cannot, because I think, therefore I am.
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#37
Your point of view is called Solipsism. Hope reading that clears your mind up a little bit.
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