Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins

I feel the same way as xBTAx so I am not going to fully reveal, but I will say that I am a Psychic Pokemon who later gets a subtype that is strong against Dragons.

OMG R U THE CREEPY ONE?? :3

OMG R U THE CREEPY ONE?? :3

Look who's talking!

Look who's talking!

touché

Specifically stung before passing out.
Kissed -> Stung -> Used disable -> Passed out -> Woke up

And Meta's the mime, if anyone's missed that.

Simple hasn't been around in a while, have they? It seems like they mostly just flung around random votes day 1, got very aggressively defensive when they were voted, and then joined the Shidoshi bandwagon. Day 2 they just popped in to join the Olsi wagon and said they were "quietly observing."

I think the big thing to take away from the Shidoshi vote in the first day though is that just because we lynched someone who was anti-town, doesn't mean mafia wasn't involved in the wagon - and I would assume readily so.

I don't trust that he's just appeared for both successful wagons without doing much beyond that.

I'm going to [vote]Simple

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Pretty sure that wouldn't read as being stung, though.[/COLOR]

Ah fair point. Probably a weedle then

Looking at the list Hypermug posted... it's not that I don't suspect VerrKol still or that I doubt Holypie , but I'd rather hear more from Simple right now since VerrKol's already claimed. I'm going to switch and [Vote] Simple for the time being.

([MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];- don't you mean 12 AM Sunday in the OP?)

12am est sunday is in 2 hrs....

12am est sunday is in 2 hrs....

I'm quite sure he meant 12am Monday. Sorry, can only reply short posts. I'm out at the moment.

I am typically against lynching inactives so I won't be voting for Simple, not today at least. And I believe it is important to confirm HolyPie's sanity so I am going to support the VerrKol lynch.


[Vote]VerrKol


Simple is acting completely and utterly insane, someone like that is just harmful to the town.


[Vote]Simple


Actually, never mind. This game is a complete clusterf'uck, I don't know what is what anymore.

I already know Holypie is insane so [Vote]: Simple

Geez guys, really? I mean I understand, I really do, but still. Eh, whatever, at this point I have no problem getting voted off since I'll hopefully take a mafiaso with me.

Anyway I'll come out and fulling reveal myself at this point. I'm Ditto, and guess what my power is? Yeah, that is right, and I got really lucky on Night 1. I ended up copying someone who is not HolyPie but is also a cop, that is right, there are two cops. Didn't get to use my power until Night 2 but that was okay because I found a mafiaso who told off on herself with her subtle scum tells.


So if in the end ya'll still decide to vote me off and what I've said is proven to be true I hope ya'll will nail Kyrastri after I am gone!


[Vote]Kyrastri

Geez guys, really? I mean I understand, I really do, but still. Eh, whatever, at this point I have no problem getting voted off since I'll hopefully take a mafiaso with me.

Anyway I'll come out and fulling reveal myself at this point. I'm Ditto, and guess what my power is? Yeah, that is right, and I got really lucky on Night 1. I ended up copying someone who is not HolyPie but is also a cop, that is right, there are two cops. Didn't get to use my power until Night 2 but that was okay because I found a mafiaso who told off on herself with her subtle scum tells.


So if in the end ya'll still decide to vote me off and what I've said is proven to be true I hope ya'll will nail Kyrastri after I am gone!


[Vote]Kyrastri;

What exactly is the subtle little tell?

What exactly is the subtle little tell?

Not really just one tell, it was multiple tells.

I ended up copying someone who is not HolyPie but is also a cop, that is right, there are two cops. Didn't get to use my power until Night 2 but that was okay because I found a mafiaso who told off on herself with her subtle scum tells.

So if in the end ya'll still decide to vote me off and what I've said is proven to be true I hope ya'll will nail Kyrastri after I am gone!

[Vote]Kyrastri;

[COLOR="#cc8899"]Assuming the person you copied is sane. If [MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION];'s investigations are accurate, there's a high chance YOUR target is insane/random instead. In which case [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; would be a confirmed townie.

I'll also add that I find it a bit suspicious that you basically sit on the sidelines and conveniently claim a power role/detective ability as you're close to being lynched. That trick's been pulled several times on Southperry and...it's a bit stale. And yet ANOTHER Normal type pokemon at that - this would make what, four so far? I find that a bit...unlikely. It's also likely that you would be a neutral, not necessarily town-aligned. However, having a "third" cop would be incredibly useful, and there's no immediate risk to the town by not lynching you. I suggest you and Holypie investigate the same target tonight and compare notes - along with today's lynch information on VK, it should greatly clarify both of your sanities.

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I'll also add that I find it a bit suspicious that you basically sit on the sidelines and conveniently claim a power role/detective ability as you're close to being lynched.

Because I've been trying to keep quiet and find mafiaso since even the littlest mistake can get an innocent lynched. Look at Olsi. And you're next on my list if I live mister throw out random useless fluff information to look like you're a decent active townie.

Because I've been trying to keep quiet and find mafiaso since even the littlest mistake can get an innocent lynched. Look at Olsi. And you're next on my list if I live mister throw out random useless fluff information to look like you're a decent active townie.

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So investigate me tonight. I've got nothing to hide. [MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION]; can come over and we'll make a party of it. Or are you jumping on me now because I dare to be suspicious of your last-minute claim? I wasn't even considering you as a scum candidate until your claim, and had been watching to see who jumped on your wagon, but hell, I'm second-guessing that now.[/COLOR]

[MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION]; Can I be a cop too?

Or are you jumping on me now because I dare to be suspicious of your last-minute claim?

Hardly. Ya'll think I've just been sitting back and doing nothing? No, I've been watching everyone of your posts and comparing them to past games and made a list of the most scummy people based on everyone's traits. Kyra was at the top of that list, followed by you.

edit: because I realised that this was Berlin Wall-level wall of text, I'm cutting it into spoiler sections

Geez guys, really? I mean I understand, I really do, but still. Eh, whatever, at this point I have no problem getting voted off since I'll hopefully take a mafiaso with me.

Anyway I'll come out and fulling reveal myself at this point. I'm Ditto, and guess what my power is? Yeah, that is right, and I got really lucky on Night 1. I ended up copying someone who is not HolyPie but is also a cop, that is right, there are two cops. Didn't get to use my power until Night 2 but that was okay because I found a mafiaso who told off on herself with her subtle scum tells.


So if in the end ya'll still decide to vote me off and what I've said is proven to be true I hope ya'll will nail Kyrastri after I am gone!


[Vote]Kyrastri;

 In which I am hurt because of my betrayal

Should I be surprised that the one person who I've been encouraging to talk rather than force a lynch on inadvertently turns on me? I suppose not.

I'm going to outright ask right now, because I don't like being accused of having "subtle scum tells" without any examples or even PM evidence of my 'scumminess' (I notice that you didn't mention anything with this, which should be easily rectifiable); where do you think I was being 'scummy'? I would much rather attempt to clarify anything that might be misinterpreted rather than resign myself to being wrongfully lynched.

I notice that you're still saying "multiple tells" but point to no specifics. I want to be able to explain myself because I find that very insubstantial. There should be no harm if you really think I'm scum, right? If I can't explain myself I will happily be lynched.

[spoiler=In which I don't like how you claimed]Also, you DID just confirm the presence of a second cop, which now the mafia will know. Which is not a good thing for us.

Holypie had claimed cop which means that you could have just claimed that you copied Holypie. Even if Holypie ends up to be insane/random, we could have justified you as simply a role copier rather than the full shabang. I'll put more on this later.

Which leads me to my next question: How do we know that you're sane?

The presence of two cops in this game practically confirms insanity or some other bastard modifier as a balancer, or at least to me (the lady who takes the word of the MafiaScum wiki beyond all else :c).[/spoiler]

 In which I begin to doubt you to come full circle

That's to say that you are indeed a role copier, or whether you're just the second cop altogether. Which I somehow have a gut feeling that you aren't (the role copier I mean). Or maybe I'm just starting to take it personally. So if I sound aggressive, sorry. I just really don't like how you've worded your accusation.

- A Role Copier and a Role Forcer...? Role Forcer is obviously much more efficient and effective to town, but from what I've read you take a day to copy a skill. That's a lot of days wasted for a very short game (most games don't seem to reach day 5 from what I've seen). At the very least we can confirm whether role forcer will be town tonight; a lot of people have claimed and whatever happens now will definitely show intent.

- THREE potential cops? Niernen, what the pineapple are you doing, man? The last time we had this happen, it wasn't real, because three cops (well, two and a potential) in a game just seems really broken because it is. >:U

- This is more speculation at this point, but this point is under the assumption that you're bsing. We wouldn't be able to know whether there was a second cop or not; the only reason that I can come up with right now is that you wouldn't want to raise the possibility of relying on Holypie to get a response PM saying that they were copied. The role forced were told that their moves were 'taken', in a sense and I don't see why role copying should be any different.

And of course I can't ask for the second cop to stand up and confirm because who the pineapple asks the cop to stand up?

- It sure is convenient is it for you to reveal cop-copier just as everyone's starting to target you, and after [MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION]; claimed effect copier (if I read his post right). You posted at the start of the day; you had no clear intention of doing anything at that time, and honestly what were you hoping to achieve by keeping your results to yourself?

Actually, that last question can kinda be justified, so you don't have to answer that. It's probably a play quirk that I reveal improperly :/.

Hardly. Ya'll think I've just been sitting back and doing nothing? No, I've been watching everyone of your posts and comparing them to past games and made a list of the most scummy people based on everyone's traits. Kyra was at the top of that list, followed by you.

... You just openly claimed that you were metagaming. I don't even know how to respond at this point.

edit: it will be very appreciated if you only quote the bit you respond to, because I post walls of text and don't know how to condense my posts

I think we finally found someone loonier than [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];