Senior Member
Posts: 306
Threads: 8
Joined: 2011-08
Gender: Male
Country Flag: usa
IGN: EliulShad
Server: Reboot
Level: 21X
Job: Shadower
Guild: Epic
Farm: StayTru
Pretty sure those hearts will be worth more in a while since I can't picture another giveaway of perma hearts for a while. I'd hoard but if you want a godly heart, then go for it.
Member
Posts: 120
Threads: 0
Joined: 2008-07
Scrolled my first "Godly" item ever and not really worth posting since it's just another heart like everyone else. Did 1 20% and 6 50%s, used lucky day scrolls on them all as well. Scary enough, I only had to use 4-5 20% clean slates (both hammers failed x.x).
Random question though, would the extra WA (20%) or the extra all stats (50%) be overall better for a xenon? Sorry, not really sure on damage calculation and all that.
Member
Posts: 119
Threads: 8
Joined: 2013-01
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Bi
Country Flag: south korea
Server: Broa
Level: 200
Job: Phantom
LeoDirk Wrote:Scrolled my first "Godly" item ever and not really worth posting since it's just another heart like everyone else. Did 1 20% and 6 50%s, used lucky day scrolls on them all as well. Scary enough, I only had to use 4-5 20% clean slates (both hammers failed x.x).
Random question though, would the extra WA (20%) or the extra all stats (50%) be overall better for a xenon? Sorry, not really sure on damage calculation and all that.
If you're a xenon, i'd definitely say that all stats would be far more worth it.
atm on my DB, i gain approximately 450~range per 1 luk, and around 800-900 range per 1 att
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,590
Threads: 29
Joined: 2010-06
Gender: Male
Country Flag: singapore
IGN: cbdccb1
Server: Windia
Level: 200
Job: Luminous
Farm: Hadriel
user Wrote:My assumption is that even the slightest increase in stats allows for a substantial increase in range, as Xenon has a very high base %total damage. And yes, I do have a lot of %stats, but very low base weapon attack, if that clarifies anything.
YES numbers proved me right! In a sense if you were a Xenon, 6121 LUK could not have been achieved unless you had in the order of 2000 LUK and 200~%LUK/ALL. 30-40ALL could not have made such a big deal (40/2000 => 2%) , which must then imply that you have so little WA that 39WA contributes nearly 10% of your current WA (or more) - one should also note that Xenon belongs to one of the classes with a low base WA. The %dmg simply amplifies the range (and range increases). If I'm guessing right, unbuffed you're standing at about some number near 800k... without knowing how much stats you have I can only give your possible range as around 600k to 1M.
Also, a truly unbuffed Xenon is one with 0 supply. Full supply gives you 20%ALL. Did you deplete your supply when posting that SS?
edit: [MENTION=1200]LeoDirk[/MENTION]; what are the stats of those scrolls? What kind of WA/stats are you standing at right now (preferably buffed, because you aren't going to fight a boss unbuffed!).
Hadriel
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,820
Threads: 130
Joined: 2008-07
CherryPie Wrote:If you're a xenon, i'd definitely say that all stats would be far more worth it.
atm on my DB, i gain approximately 450~range per 1 luk, and around 800-900 range per 1 att
20% = 3 all, 9 atk
50% = 5 all, 5 atk
20% vs 50% ==> 4 atk vs 2 all stat
==> 4 atk vs 6 total stats
Only a really really really screwed up xenon would make it so the 50% provides more range than the 20%. However the 20% route is much more difficult to complete. In terms of perfection though, 20% is better.
Posting Freak
Posts: 8,478
Threads: 128
Joined: 2008-07
Gender: Neuter
Country Flag: canada
IGN: Oooh
Server: Bera
Job: Empress
Farm: Stereo
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:20% = 3 all, 9 atk
50% = 5 all, 5 atk
20% vs 50% ==> 4 atk vs 2 all stat
==> 4 atk vs 6 total stats
Only a really really really screwed up xenon would make it so the 50% provides more range than the 20%. However the 20% route is much more difficult to complete. In terms of perfection though, 20% is better.
You'd need an extremely high w.atk for that to make sense, yeah.
My Xenon's got 207 att and ~290 in each stat, and it's roughly 2 atk = 3-all:
(this is comparing 6-all 5 att to 3-all 7 att - you can see my stats are higher than 290, this is the %all bonuses)
More atk is only going to be worse than more +all if you have a higher total atk than your total in any of the stats. (only the base amount, without %stats, but still, it's a fairly high number - as my level 69 xenon has 290 already, on a base of 120 per stat).
For the 50% to be better, you'd need 2x as much w.atk as your base stats - so if you had, say, 800 in each (due to Tempest gear etc.) you'd need 1600 w.atk.
Posting Freak
Posts: 5,136
Threads: 50
Joined: 2009-09
Blunderr Wrote:So by some miracle of fate this happened
![[Image: 14bjh92.jpg]](http://oi39.tinypic.com/14bjh92.jpg)
Randomly threw a pinnacle scroll on one heart and it stuck, then every Unleashed scroll thereafter also stuck.
I had to slate one slot thanks to those god awful golden hammers, but it only took 2 20%s!
The potential on reveal couldn't have been better either! :3
You always were luckier than me
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,894
Threads: 50
Joined: 2008-07
Gender: Male
Country Flag: usa
Server: Scania
Level: 224
Job: Marksman
Guild: Synergy
Late to the party but:
Can't afford Golden Hammers in FM and I'd prefer to save the NX I have now for Marksman/Xenon so I don't know if I'll use the NX Hammers or not. Might just keep it as is.
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,369
Threads: 48
Joined: 2010-06
Gender: Male
Country Flag: usa
IGN: HeroSogeking
Guild: KoopaForce
Guild Alliance: KoopaEmpire
TugboatWilly Wrote:-snip-
There's 50% hammers in the unleashed shop for 40 coins each.
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,894
Threads: 50
Joined: 2008-07
Gender: Male
Country Flag: usa
Server: Scania
Level: 224
Job: Marksman
Guild: Synergy
Imagine Wrote:There's 50% hammers in the unleashed shop for 40 coins each. Knew I remembered seeing them in one of the shops.
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,369
Threads: 48
Joined: 2010-06
Gender: Male
Country Flag: usa
IGN: HeroSogeking
Guild: KoopaForce
Guild Alliance: KoopaEmpire
After failing 7 50%s and 4 innocence scrolls in a row on my heart, I did it:
![[Image: BiS6CJH.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/BiS6CJH.jpg)
Excluding the failed scrolls, this took: 1 60% innocence scroll, 3 20% clean slates, 7 50% 1h weapon atks. pineapple YOU RNG
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,664
Threads: 87
Joined: 2010-08
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Gay
Country Flag: chile
IGN: danielcatu
Server: yellonde
Level: 121
Job: Wind Archer
Guild: Vendetta
Farm: 765pro
![[Image: 2gwb6vt.png]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2gwb6vt.png)
i feel lucky!
i been wondering about those 9 att scrolls from kms do anyone know if theyll work with diligence buff or something :f6:
Senior Member
Posts: 363
Threads: 26
Joined: 2008-09
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Gay
Country Flag: New_Jersey
IGN: -
Server: -
Level: -
Job: -
Guild: -
Guild Alliance: -
Farm: Mikey
danielcatu Wrote:Snip~
i feel lucky! 
i been wondering about those 9 att scrolls from kms do anyone know if theyll work with diligence buff or something :f6: Even the potential is sweet for an epic reveal grats!
Posting Freak
Posts: 10,979
Threads: 369
Joined: 2008-10
danielcatu Wrote:i been wondering about those 9 att scrolls from kms do anyone know if theyll work with diligence buff or something :f6:
Do you mean the special 90% ones? Or the 20% pinnacle ones we have? Either way I believe they're all listed as special scrolls within the data along with the unleashed scrolls.
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,169
Threads: 23
Joined: 2009-09
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: usa
Guild: Revive
![[Image: Maple0365.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Necro_Sensei/Maple0365.jpg)
That 1 slot left bothered me. Only gained 2 atk, but I'm happy still.
Posting Freak
Posts: 4,835
Threads: 174
Joined: 2008-10
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: england
Guild: LegacyReborn
Guild Alliance: Atlas
Finished my top, only had 1 slot left so I burnt through 4 return scrolls before landing +3 ATT, going to use the attendance positive chaos scrolls on my Pinnacle and Unleashed rings.
Very happy with the outcome of my Root Abyss stuff so far, now if only they'd fix the bosses and give them drop tables so I could get a hat without paying 5bil+ for it ._.
Member
Posts: 67
Threads: 2
Joined: 2013-06
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: england
IGN: Xentialize
Server: Bellocan
Level: 211
Job: Xenon
[SIZE=3]Took 4 Guardian Scrolls to pass 5 star AEE 
Hoping Miracle time gets my wep some decent stats & to legendary tier of course![/SIZE]
Posting Freak
Posts: 3,304
Threads: 36
Joined: 2012-07
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Bi
Country Flag: Ohio
IGN: RepeateLoop
Server: Nova
Level: 197
Guild: Edict
Farm: Niernen (dead)
Betting I am going to see a lot of new items here with the return of shields/wards.
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,181
Threads: 64
Joined: 2010-11
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: denmark
IGN: 워우
Server: Culverin
Level: 17x
Job: Dual Blader
Guild: 불타-
![[Image: SrRyqjm.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/SrRyqjm.jpg)
my friend made this Shining Red Thief Meister Symbol today.. he's fucking insane.
Posting Freak
Posts: 1,047
Threads: 16
Joined: 2011-04
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: South_Carolina
Server: Broa
Farm: MagdielLand
This is the first time I've ever gotten every scroll to work on an item! =D
Next, I needa get potential on this bugger somehow o.e
|