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Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread
So, what is the difference between Advanced and Normal Avatars? Is there a way to choose which you want, or is it all randomized, a la gachapon?
Kurtle Wrote:So, what is the difference between Advanced and Normal Avatars? Is there a way to choose which you want, or is it all randomized, a la gachapon?

Better stats/set bonus. It's all random (except event sets)
MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]"Abuses cubes"
Erm...there is nothing wrong with using a cube skill in PvP. Many classes rely on them (Saya/Rhasa for a soul bender, for example). [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]I'm talking about if a Soul Bender just pulls up the ghosts to hold you somewhere until his Phantasmal Slayer runs out, and then rushes in and uses it, and then runs away again. That's what I mean by abuse. I'm totally fine if people use cube skills in a match, but not if you just sit around and wait until you can use it again.

It's easy enough to dodge it if you know it's coming, but you need to jump at the exact moment, which usually leaves me open to getting hit by him when i fall back down, in which case he usually just Ghost Slashes me and runs away again.[/COLOR]
DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="Green"]I'm talking about if a Soul Bender just pulls up the ghosts to hold you somewhere until his Phantasmal Slayer runs out, and then rushes in and uses it, and then runs away again. That's what I mean by abuse. I'm totally fine if people use cube skills in a match, but not if you just sit around and wait until you can use it again.

It's easy enough to dodge it if you know it's coming, but you need to jump at the exact moment, which usually leaves me open to getting hit by him when i fall back down, in which case he usually just Ghost Slashes me and runs away again.[/COLOR]

Then get better at chasing. It's not abuse, it's literally ALL THEY HAVE. Granted, you can still fight without just cube camping, but it's a lot safer to wait for Phantasmal, which is your best approach by far, and then follow up as necessary.
MasPan Wrote:Then get better at chasing. It's not abuse, it's literally ALL THEY HAVE. Granted, you can still fight without just cube camping, but it's a lot safer to wait for Phantasmal, which is your best approach by far, and then follow up as necessary.

I do kinda have to agree with you there. I think I just need to work on hitting them before they get it back, since that's mainly all he did. I'm still not running through the Ice Ghost though.
DualReaver Wrote:I do kinda have to agree with you there. I think I just need to work on hitting them before they get it back, since that's mainly all he did. I'm still not running through the Ice Ghost though.

She;s relatively harmless as of right now. Later patches make her a lot scarier, but for now feel free to run (or jump) through it. She has limited vertical height, use that to your advantage.
MasPan Wrote:She;s relatively harmless as of right now. Later patches make her a lot scarier, but for now feel free to run (or jump) through it. She has limited vertical height, use that to your advantage.

I always jump through the Blue and Purple rings, but ESPECIALLY the Blue one, as it has a chance for freezing, and usually I end up getting frozen multiple times because they can then start hitting me inside it, meaning I can't step out of the circle.
MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]Haha. I did a run with MrPapa in Vilmark (normal). We got hit a bunch by mechatau, but otherwise did pretty damned well. It was a LOT of fun. Screenshots pending.
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So is it really watered down that a level 45 can solo it like Senri said? If it is, I'm off to farm teranite.
Holypie Wrote:So is it really watered down that a level 45 can solo it like Senri said? If it is, I'm off to farm teranite.

[color="#cc8899"]Hard to say - this was a duo on normal difficulty. It wasn't overly difficult, but we also know what we're doing. I could see it being challenging if you're reckless, especially on higher difficulties.

You also need 10 spirit things and 30 black cube frags per entry. Kindof difficult to "farm"[/COLOR]
Who wants to tell me how to roll a RANGER.
Baklava Wrote:Who wants to tell me how to roll a RANGER.
1. Delete the gunner characters you have.
2. Hack all other accounts.
3. Delete all gunner characters on all accounts.
4. ???
5. Profit.

I don't like gunners. D=
So do Spirit Crystals only drop in Aphelia? Or can I find them elsewhere? I didn't have much trouble finding my first 16 in Keep and Lair, but I'm curious.

And does anyone else have a large red X following them above their head? Like, way above. It only appears when I'm near the bottom of the screen, and it only appears on my Witch. It goes wherever I go, even dungeons. My Striped Shirt and Gray Fur Coat avatar top is missing its left sleeve, too. Any other mages with it notice that? I thought maybe that was causing the X, but it isn't. I just think it's weird my Witch had these two odd problems. They don't seem to be affect me in any way, though.
Ugh, I don't seem to be able to log on. I'm so pissed.
Infection Wrote:Ugh, I don't seem to be able to log on. I'm so pissed.
Did you try refreshing the page and then clicking the start game button again?

Ewwww. What's wrong with the channels? I liked the old setup better. WAYYY better.
BS. Why the hell is King's Relic designed perfectly AGAINST Summoners? What the hell. None of my Summons will even attack the first knight/guard/whatever unless I manage to Mark it. Do you have any idea how hard that is? Slow moving, strictly straight forward attack against an uber fast moving, strong enemy. I used all three of my tokens to just barely defeat him. This was on Normal mode. I would have lost for sure on Expert. Master or King would be a joke. The next room wasn't as bad, but yet again built to rape Summoners. I can't stop my Summons from attacking him when he's on physical mode, so they kept rehealing him. It sucked, but I overcame again somehow. I was all pumped hoping the third room wouldn't be as HELL as the previous two, but NOPE LOL. I walk in and am nearly instantly frozen (as are ALL of my summons) and we're all killed in a matter of seconds.

BS. And anything that requires items EVERY time to enter is stupid. It feels like I'm playing MS all of a sudden. I'm angry.
I tried with both DFO Launcher and the site. I even reconnected my Internet, and no dice.
LEVEL 30 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Mount is so fucking amazing, just need to get used to comboing explosion->mount for double duty damage. I love brawlers.
FelixTM Wrote:So do Spirit Crystals only drop in Aphelia? Or can I find them elsewhere? I didn't have much trouble finding my first 16 in Keep and Lair, but I'm curious.

And does anyone else have a large red X following them above their head? Like, way above. It only appears when I'm near the bottom of the screen, and it only appears on my Witch. It goes wherever I go, even dungeons. My Striped Shirt and Gray Fur Coat avatar top is missing its left sleeve, too. Any other mages with it notice that? I thought maybe that was causing the X, but it isn't. I just think it's weird my Witch had these two odd problems. They don't seem to be affect me in any way, though.

I have both of these problems. I don't think they're anything but visual errors anyways. Who's up for some Vilmark?
FelixTM Wrote:BS. Why the hell is King's Relic designed perfectly AGAINST Summoners? What the hell. None of my Summons will even attack the first knight/guard/whatever unless I manage to Mark it. Do you have any idea how hard that is? Slow moving, strictly straight forward attack against an uber fast moving, strong enemy. I used all three of my tokens to just barely defeat him. This was on Normal mode. I would have lost for sure on Expert. Master or King would be a joke. The next room wasn't as bad, but yet again built to rape Summoners. I can't stop my Summons from attacking him when he's on physical mode, so they kept rehealing him. It sucked, but I overcame again somehow. I was all pumped hoping the third room wouldn't be as HELL as the previous two, but NOPE LOL. I walk in and am nearly instantly frozen (as are ALL of my summons) and we're all killed in a matter of seconds.

BS. And anything that requires items EVERY time to enter is stupid. It feels like I'm playing MS all of a sudden. I'm angry.
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First boss - designed to counter precision classes and summon classes. Almost demands an AoE or y axis attacker.
Second - designed to counter pure-attack type classes (Launchers/Rangers, etc). Demands access to multiple damage types.
Third - designed to counter solo classes. Demands either summons or party members.
Fourth - designed to counter multi-hit classes. Demands strong single-hit skills.
Fifth - designed to screw just about anyone. Helps a lot to have things like murderous wave or g-3 raptor.
Sixth - designed to counter slow, heavy attackers. Demands classes with enough reaction time to dodge his slams.

It's meant to force a well organized party. It's MEANT to be hard, since you unlock your most powerful skills by completing it.
The item fee does annoy me though.

Also, the teal undershirt part of my gladiator armor is no longer there. Yay midrift![/COLOR]
Baklava Wrote:Who wants to tell me how to roll a RANGER.

How to roll as a Ranger? Pew pew things until they die.

3000th post! It's over THREE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAND


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