[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight

I'm glad they added the BStep increase to other skills. From what I could see, BStep has pretty much no delay now if any, so there was no longer any reason to use any skill. Now with this +25% damage to the next attack, there might be a reason, depending if +25% SB/Assaulter is actually stronger.

The additional damage needs to be buffed by a lot before that will happen, considering bstep does 1200% on 4 targets and SB does 540%*1.25=675% on 1 target

bold is wrongggg
higher levels allow you to take even less damage during chakra (on top of MG/greed), increasing the incentive to use it. i can train at O4/skeles without potions at all. it's not hard, and it really doesn't slow you down that much. considering how almost everything misses a shad, having chakra is all the sweeter. max chakra + max shifter = match made in heaven. way better than ME/PP

It says you take extra damage from mobs if they hit you, but I don't see any difference in dmg taken.

I'll try training with Chakra for an hour or so to see if what you say holds true.

the chakra description is hella wrong, and has been since day one. you take even less damage when you get hit during chakra (and even less after the BB update). unless you don't know the enemies you train on, or a COG hax hits you from across the map, you should be fine.

Training speed is a hell of a lot more important than saving a couple of pots. How many pots do Shadowers need, anyway? My Corsair uses 600 Gingers in 4 hours at O4 and easily picks up enough mesos to cover that cost. Screw saving a paltry 40-50 pots per hour, or whatever Shadowers need.

it's just fun and empowering to be our own cleric. plus i'm sure we train faster than sairs with or without chakra.

the chakra description is hella wrong, and has been since day one. you take even less damage when you get hit during chakra (and even less after the BB update). unless you don't know the enemies you train on, or a COG hax hits you from across the map, you should be fine.

You're right, chakra does lower pots costs signifigantly. However, the training speed is also decreased by a bit. It's a lot harder for me to chain my stuff when trying to use Chakra. And having my HP below 50% always has made me edgy.

what level is your chakra?

20.

i still feel like wildhunters just need SOMETHING to set them apart in 4th job. trap mastery, advanced riding mastery, a new map attack similar to trap. i dunno.. anyone else with me?

I have noticed something about the potential system. And that is the skills you can get from potential scrolls. We have a magician skill, mystic door, a thief one, haste, an archer one, sharp eyes, and a warrior one, hyper body. Each focusing on the job's things... However, I'm missing the pirate one.

I hope they add a nerfed dice skill to the list, too. Would make things interesting for all.

I have noticed something about the potential system. And that is the skills you can get from potential scrolls. We have a magician skill, mystic door, a thief one, haste, an archer one, sharp eyes, and a warrior one, hyper body. Each focusing on the job's things... However, I'm missing the pirate one.

I hope they add a nerfed dice skill to the list, too. Would make things interesting for all.

Giving speed infusion through potential system isn't exactly smart. Those skills are useful to all classes and nerfed from the original, whereas pirates don't have skills like that.

Training speed is a hell of a lot more important than saving a couple of pots. How many pots do Shadowers need, anyway? My Corsair uses 600 Gingers in 4 hours at O4 and easily picks up enough mesos to cover that cost. Screw saving a paltry 40-50 pots per hour, or whatever Shadowers need.

Uh, out of curiousity, how are you going through 600 pots in 4 hours of training at OB4? I know I haven't really trained there since I don't have the HP yet, but I only go throuh 200-250 pots in 4 hours of OB3 even if my control sucks and they're pretty much the same monsters. How much HP do you have? If you're double-potting it'd probably be better to just get reindeer milks to heal a full hit.

Also, about skills from potential scrolls, I honestly don't like them. Kinda detracts from the whole party-support-with-unique-buffs thing in my opinion.

Also, about skills from potential scrolls, I honestly don't like them. Kinda detracts from the whole party-support-with-unique-buffs thing in my opinion.

No it doesn't. They're not party skills afaik and their bonuses pale in comparison to the actual versions.

Uh, out of curiousity, how are you going through 600 pots in 4 hours of training at OB4? I know I haven't really trained there since I don't have the HP yet, but I only go throuh 200-250 pots in 4 hours of OB3 even if my control sucks and they're pretty much the same monsters. How much HP do you have? If you're double-potting it'd probably be better to just get reindeer milks to heal a full hit.

Also, about skills from potential scrolls, I honestly don't like them. Kinda detracts from the whole party-support-with-unique-buffs thing in my opinion.

4.9k HP, using Gingers + Barbs, and I focus on killing speed, not avoiding damage.

...Are you talking about pot usage in a party? Because limiting myself to half the map really reduces the number of times I get hit.

It wasn't a question of killing speed, it was a question of whether or not you had the best pot set up. I suppose that works, but if you've done the quest to buy stuff from Mo it'd be cheaper to just get Reindeer Milks from him, although I guess it'd be rather inconvienent trekking through Bigfoot-infested woods just to repot.

Also I didn't mean to imply the potential skill affect anyone but the user, just thought it would take away from the experience if you could say, "Well my armor gives me SE, what the hell do we need archers for?". Although I guess if the bonuses suck then it's alright.

the same could be said about DrK's as well. those two are the most gimpped from this potential skills thing. haste anyone can get simply from equips. Door is meh considering you could use a town scroll and just walk back. I think it's pretty ridiculous, but that's what nexon made, and it won't be taken out now that it has been implemented.

the same could be said about DrK's as well. those two are the most gimpped from this potential skills thing. haste anyone can get simply from equips. Door is meh considering you could use a town scroll and just walk back. I think it's pretty ridiculous, but that's what nexon made, and it won't be taken out now that it has been implemented.

Is it difficult to make those skills from the system?

Also, is there a limit in how many you can have?

It wasn't a question of killing speed, it was a question of whether or not you had the best pot set up. I suppose that works, but if you've done the quest to buy stuff from Mo it'd be cheaper to just get Reindeer Milks from him, although I guess it'd be rather inconvienent trekking through Bigfoot-infested woods just to repot.

Also I didn't mean to imply the potential skill affect anyone but the user, just thought it would take away from the experience if you could say, "Well my armor gives me SE, what the hell do we need archers for?". Although I guess if the bonuses suck then it's alright.

Okay, I just solo trained at O4 for 30 minutes to make sure. Used exactly 100 Gingers and 17 Barbs (only used when I get hit with magic). I'm freezing mobs and 5hkoing with Torpedo. What are you doing, killing them individually with Cannon? I'd like to think I'm fairly good at controlling my character, but there is no way a Corsair can train effectively at O4 only using 250 pots in 4 hours.

Edit: Guess this is getting off-topic.

Okay, I just solo trained at O4 for 30 minutes to make sure. Used exactly 100 Gingers and 17 Barbs (only used when I get hit with magic). I'm freezing mobs and 5hkoing with Torpedo. What are you doing, killing them individually with Cannon? I'd like to think I'm fairly good at controlling my character, but there is no way a Corsair can train effectively at O4 only using 250 pots in 4 hours.

Edit: Guess this is getting off-topic.

Eh, these side discussions are the only things keeping this thread alive. 1.2.328 really wasn't all that interesting. =/

i think everyone is waiting for mechanic. i think it should in kmst any time from this week/next week.